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Euroleague · resolved market

Zalgiris Kaunas vs. Barcelona

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Zalgiris Kaunasof Zalgiris Kaunas, Barcelona
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Euroleagueevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$40,668
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$51,773

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $40,668 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 112 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Euroleague is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Euroleague
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6b1e…65c1backed Zalgiris Kaunas71c2,755$1,945 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$809.572060%12 W · 8 L+1.7wins+0.09per pick51cpaid+20.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Barcelona37c2,284$838 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$837.9512040.8%49 W · 71 L-5.1wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-3.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x10ff…5088backed Barcelona27c1,709$455 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$454.96837.5%3 W · 5 L-0.7wins-0.09per pick47cpaid-39.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7879…3653backed Zalgiris Kaunas63c1,550$978 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$572.531464.3%9 W · 5 L+0.9wins+0.07per pick58cpaid+22.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xab0e…4393backed Zalgiris Kaunas74c1,331$985 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$345.59560%3 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.04per pick64cpaid-17%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x161a…4103backed Zalgiris Kaunas62c1,325$815 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$509.4937052.7%195 W · 175 L+9.8wins+0.03per pick50cpaid-2.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7ca1…aea0backed Barcelona39c1,250$488 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$487.516235.2%57 W · 105 L-2.5wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x27b0…fc67backed Zalgiris Kaunas60c1,114$671 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$443.471656.3%9 W · 7 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick52cpaid-7.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb4d0…a1c5backed Barcelona36c1,086$394 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$394.356237.1%23 W · 39 L-3.1wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-18.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6e4b…fddebacked Barcelona36c1,083$385 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$384.5220%0 W · 2 L-0.8wins-0.42per pick42cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe3d4…884ebacked Zalgiris Kaunas76c1,062$809 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$253.625642.9%24 W · 32 L+1.9wins+0.03per pick39cpaid-11.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xcc81…ce25backed Zalgiris Kaunas78c996.66$777 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$219.291100%1 W · 0 L+0.2wins+0.22per pick78cpaid+28.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Barcelona22c851.89$184 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$184.3954251.5%279 W · 263 L+25.3wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+6.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xbd65…3e60backed Zalgiris Kaunas63c847.44$538 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$309.499756.7%55 W · 42 L-3.2wins-0.03per pick60cpaid-4.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7697…eaa2backed Barcelona3c763.01$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.75633.3%2 W · 4 L+0.5wins+0.09per pick25cpaid-6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Barcelona20c703.86$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.086844.1%30 W · 38 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-14.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x07e3…37b1backed Barcelona39c697.63$272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$272.085545.5%25 W · 30 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-13.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x181f…6800backed Zalgiris Kaunas63c696.99$439 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$257.882100%2 W · 0 L+0.7wins+0.34per pick66cpaid+50.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7203…22d6backed Zalgiris Kaunas61c551.38$338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$213.063764.9%24 W · 13 L+4.5wins+0.12per pick53cpaid+25.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc33d…0d40backed Barcelona22c516.25$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.944740.4%19 W · 28 L-0.2wins0.00per pick41cpaid-11.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Barcelona32c500.58$161 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$161.4414542.1%61 W · 84 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-21.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa0af…3b75backed Zalgiris Kaunas65c383.68$251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$132.93100%3 W · 0 L+1.8wins+0.61per pick39cpaid+233.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xe1f1…3a05backed Barcelona37c377.84$140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$140.11631.3%5 W · 11 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick33cpaid-23.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaea0…0decbacked Barcelona37c375.77$140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.796940.6%28 W · 41 L-3.5wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-28.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x4ec3…34a7backed Zalgiris Kaunas65c362.23$237 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$125.565238.5%20 W · 32 L-2.8wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-18.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x93a4…6bdbbacked Barcelona29c346.64$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.53633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.4wins-0.07per pick40cpaid-37.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0f8e…3082backed Barcelona33c302.32$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.4812454%67 W · 57 L+4.9wins+0.04per pick50cpaid-3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xffe7…471dbacked Zalgiris Kaunas69c284.87$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.610663.2%67 W · 39 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick65cpaid-1.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9ce0…2b8abacked Zalgiris Kaunas63c279.63$175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.268256.1%46 W · 36 L-2.7wins-0.03per pick59cpaid-7.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe85d…c249backed Barcelona36c267.11$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.161921.1%4 W · 15 L-2.9wins-0.15per pick36cpaid-55.1%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x34e9…e6c7backed Zalgiris Kaunas62c260.06$160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.022060%12 W · 8 L+2.9wins+0.15per pick45cpaid+21.9%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x511a…9745backed Zalgiris Kaunas63c254.16$160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$93.943560%21 W · 14 L-4.4wins-0.13per pick73cpaid-16.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x2903…9203backed Barcelona35c240.25$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.09450%2 W · 2 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-12.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2fcb…78cfbacked Barcelona31c233.5$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.641428.6%4 W · 10 L-1.9wins-0.14per pick42cpaid-37.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0f18…c9fdbacked Barcelona36c229.72$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82.71747.1%8 W · 9 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc367…a0b4backed Barcelona36c206.55$74 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.7310634.9%37 W · 69 L-4.5wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-10.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x7c6d…89c7backed Zalgiris Kaunas63c201.77$127 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74.652100%2 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.43per pick57cpaid+77.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd0e1…99dbbacked Zalgiris Kaunas71c199.99$142 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$582100%2 W · 0 L+0.7wins+0.35per pick65cpaid+56.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3fcb…f5ebbacked Barcelona38c198.27$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75.098247.6%39 W · 43 L+1.4wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+5.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed Barcelona24c195$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.0526544.5%118 W · 147 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-10.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xba67…4727backed Barcelona36c194$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69.841145.5%5 W · 6 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-8.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc0fb…ec4fbacked Barcelona35c192.2$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.27850%4 W · 4 L+1.3wins+0.16per pick34cpaid+30.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x70a1…978abacked Barcelona26c186.66$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.7712041.7%50 W · 70 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-8.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Zalgiris Kaunas62c183.71$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$69.8112042.5%51 W · 69 L+2.7wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf2a0…1f3dbacked Barcelona40c180.75$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.310736.4%39 W · 68 L+2.4wins+0.02per pick34cpaid+7.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x60e3…0ea5backed Barcelona11c176.82$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.7910%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.11per pick11cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd096…2f6fbacked Barcelona28c173.49$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.831428.6%4 W · 10 L+0.4wins+0.03per pick26cpaid+40.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1624…bf63backed Barcelona19c169.51$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.5713235.6%47 W · 85 L-5.3wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-37.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1154…0d31backed Zalgiris Kaunas65c163.62$106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.373450%17 W · 17 L+2.0wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+19.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3453…7ae4backed Zalgiris Kaunas80c160.53$128 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.171172.7%8 W · 3 L+0.3wins+0.03per pick70cpaid+3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Barcelona29c153.43$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.543543.7%190 W · 245 L+9.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-5.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2060…9186backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c153.32$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.493342.4%14 W · 19 L-6.2wins-0.19per pick61cpaid-33.4%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x9ece…8786backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c153.27$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.443250%16 W · 16 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0c70…2523backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c153.17$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.342272.7%16 W · 6 L+1.3wins+0.06per pick67cpaid+13.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x524b…73a2backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c152.88$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.04425%1 W · 3 L-1.3wins-0.33per pick58cpaid-60.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Barcelona26c147.02$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.9635234.7%122 W · 230 L-4.9wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-19.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x02d8…ed62backed Barcelona16c146.14$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.03450%2 W · 2 L+0.9wins+0.24per pick26cpaid+100%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x764f…6b8abacked Zalgiris Kaunas70c140.51$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.322157.1%12 W · 9 L-0.1wins0.00per pick58cpaid+6.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x76f1…f655backed Barcelona37c136.94$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.892142.9%9 W · 12 L-1.0wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-30.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2686…b389backed Barcelona28c130.19$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.36250%1 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-24.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed Barcelona37c121.86$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45.09616.7%1 W · 5 L-2.2wins-0.36per pick53cpaid-76.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9ad2…aa48backed Barcelona41c117.04$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.2430%0 W · 3 L-1.4wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Barcelona33c107$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.2228943.6%126 W · 163 L-3.8wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x94a5…4eb8backed Zalgiris Kaunas62c100$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3813751.1%70 W · 67 L-3.7wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc7bb…2753backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c99.99$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$361560%9 W · 6 L+1.5wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+22.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9738backed Barcelona38c99.81$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.938344.6%37 W · 46 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-7.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x079f…a9d1backed Barcelona37c96.25$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.613135.5%11 W · 20 L-2.1wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-32.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xc8d8…e72dbacked Barcelona40c83.11$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.184438.6%17 W · 27 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick36cpaid+9.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa4ba…c5d8backed Barcelona36c83$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.887733.8%26 W · 51 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-16.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa177…4b0dbacked Barcelona26c81.22$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.891216.7%2 W · 10 L-1.7wins-0.14per pick31cpaid-60.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb171…7d2bbacked Zalgiris Kaunas62c79.37$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.168760.9%53 W · 34 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick59cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xd1d9…5955backed Barcelona33c77.89$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.99757.1%4 W · 3 L+1.0wins+0.14per pick43cpaid+26.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x47bd…5212backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c76.97$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.071100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.36per pick64cpaid+57.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x86c3…2020backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c76.44$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.52450%2 W · 2 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd610…4c9abacked Barcelona36c74.81$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.0427338.1%104 W · 169 L+10.3wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+14.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x403d…2709backed Zalgiris Kaunas63c69.61$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.63735.1%13 W · 24 L-3.5wins-0.09per pick44cpaid-28.8%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xe89e…6876backed Zalgiris Kaunas64c68.08$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.23366.7%2 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick70cpaid-3.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf18a…e4e5backed Barcelona31c59.13$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.2814447.9%69 W · 75 L+8.2wins+0.06per pick42cpaid+1.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x14b8…81a9backed Barcelona36c58.71$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.16425%1 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.21per pick46cpaid-50%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4be6…b010backed Barcelona43c56.59$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.141241.7%5 W · 7 L-1.2wins-0.10per pick52cpaid-24.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9651…0488backed Zalgiris Kaunas61c55.69$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.5862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2798…a9c7backed Barcelona36c52.99$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.16728.6%2 W · 5 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-19.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xea9e…d3fbbacked Barcelona34c51.72$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.811635.3%41 W · 75 L+9.1wins+0.08per pick27cpaid+21.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xca53…195fbacked Barcelona39c49.41$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.273246.9%15 W · 17 L-3.0wins-0.09per pick56cpaid-21.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcd42…c4aebacked Barcelona39c49.13$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.161942.1%8 W · 11 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-7.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x32cc…68b3backed Barcelona38c48.98$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.616142.6%26 W · 35 L-4.1wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-18.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2373…a1f3backed Barcelona38c48.98$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.612352.2%12 W · 11 L+0.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+9.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xaa7a…899bbacked Barcelona31c47.45$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.5320936.4%76 W · 133 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-11.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x30f8…e0f3backed Zalgiris Kaunas62c44.26$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.662100%2 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.32per pick68cpaid+47.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd4d8…c3f8backed Barcelona38c43.33$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.46825%2 W · 6 L-1.1wins-0.14per pick39cpaid-56%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed Barcelona31c40.31$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.6925517.6%45 W · 210 L-29.4wins-0.12per pick29cpaid-38.7%equal weight38-0.10 edge/pick
0xb6e8…ed04backed Barcelona37c39.44$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.59580%4 W · 1 L+0.9wins+0.17per pick63cpaid+18.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0828…5cfebacked Barcelona29c38.78$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.362634.6%9 W · 17 L-4.8wins-0.18per pick53cpaid-44%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x8ea8…077dbacked Barcelona29c38.78$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.362231.8%7 W · 15 L-4.5wins-0.21per pick52cpaid-48.8%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x3f5c…9e02backed Barcelona29c38.78$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.362236.4%8 W · 14 L-4.0wins-0.18per pick54cpaid-42.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xf39a…fe47backed Barcelona33c36.9$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.2119748.2%95 W · 102 L-0.4wins0.00per pick48cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed Zalgiris Kaunas67c36.12$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.8121535.8%77 W · 138 L-5.9wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-21.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf02f…1ed8backed Barcelona37c35.81$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.258845.5%40 W · 48 L+4.5wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+14.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x268b…e58fbacked Barcelona39c33.08$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.930%0 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.29per pick29cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x95d5…207cbacked Zalgiris Kaunas64c32.03$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.61250%1 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.19per pick69cpaid-21.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Euroleague and say nothing about this market.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.