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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: SPARTA vs ex-RUBY (BO3) - NODWIN Clutch Series Group Stage

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
ex-RUBYof SPARTA, ex-RUBY
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$39,008
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$45,771

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $39,008 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 124 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x8e8c…65ddbacked SPARTA55c4,125$2,254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,254.4384454.3%458 W · 386 L+4.6wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d22…4b50backed ex-RUBY45c4,021$1,808 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,213.1420554.1%111 W · 94 L+17.3wins+0.08per pick46cpaid+65.3%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x928a…8044backed ex-RUBY74c2,858$2,104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$754.4920358.6%119 W · 84 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked ex-RUBY46c2,819$1,298 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,521.655,05055.1%2,781 W · 2,269 L+117.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked SPARTA24c2,211$525 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$524.993,25750.3%1,638 W · 1,619 L+98.0wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2529…548abacked ex-RUBY73c1,835$1,343 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.663,22551.2%1,651 W · 1,574 L+88.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-6.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2b82…0fbbbacked SPARTA2c1,092$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$212937.9%11 W · 18 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-24.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc34b…9296backed ex-RUBY46c1,078$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$578.142,00953.9%1,082 W · 927 L+7.6wins0.00per pick53cpaid+2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9a1d…8986backed ex-RUBY57c989.45$559 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$430.1419451.5%100 W · 94 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed ex-RUBY54c969.45$521 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$448.544,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked SPARTA40c868.45$351 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$351.37,92550.4%3,997 W · 3,928 L+179.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed SPARTA31c842.39$264 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$264.44,22849.2%2,080 W · 2,148 L+59.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x88b0…f8d8backed SPARTA55c781$430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$429.5521744.7%97 W · 120 L+8.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+4.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd72e…b58fbacked SPARTA53c668$353 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$352.711266.7%8 W · 4 L+1.8wins+0.15per pick52cpaid+36.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x202f…7b58backed SPARTA56c659.45$370 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$370.355536.4%20 W · 35 L-3.3wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-18%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdaaf…051bbacked ex-RUBY38c556.03$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$345.6711148.6%54 W · 57 L-5.7wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-9.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked SPARTA4c535.4$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.34,93337.4%1,844 W · 3,089 L-249.2wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-32.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7dce…c58ebacked SPARTA55c513$282 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$282.151338.5%5 W · 8 L-1.6wins-0.12per pick51cpaid-28.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2b26…57e9backed SPARTA55c485.38$268 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$267.591,48558%862 W · 623 L+66.5wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+6.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0122…f1aabacked SPARTA54c469.39$253 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$253.411478.6%11 W · 3 L+2.1wins+0.15per pick64cpaid+18.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa094…3f07backed ex-RUBY46c400$184 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21624942.2%105 W · 144 L-0.4wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7069…325bbacked ex-RUBY43c399.97$172 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.9894645.8%433 W · 513 L+18.9wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+6.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x56d6…4404backed ex-RUBY45c399.96$181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$219.2364058.1%372 W · 268 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe601…84ecbacked SPARTA48c384.42$184 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$184.4848845.7%223 W · 265 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe80c…f3e6backed SPARTA55c368.09$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20241938.9%163 W · 256 L-8.5wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed SPARTA56c357.44$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.815,83037.8%2,203 W · 3,627 L+79.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9859…1650backed ex-RUBY48c345$165 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$180.312538.4%48 W · 77 L-6.9wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-25%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xab98…eb1cbacked SPARTA52c317.72$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.77812.5%1 W · 7 L-2.7wins-0.34per pick47cpaid-77.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xa74a…4893backed SPARTA37c293.44$107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.181,21640.1%488 W · 728 L-65.0wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-28.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x87a3…5857backed ex-RUBY70c292$204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.5619447.4%92 W · 102 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4b71…80ecbacked ex-RUBY69c289.86$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.86683.3%5 W · 1 L+0.7wins+0.11per pick72cpaid+16.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x08e0…f4a0backed ex-RUBY48c286.73$137 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.1683856.1%470 W · 368 L+31.1wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+9.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd6a8…58fdbacked ex-RUBY45c269.1$121 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$148.0124939.8%99 W · 150 L+5.6wins+0.02per pick37cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed SPARTA26c259.57$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.046,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x14fa…5258backed SPARTA52c253.62$131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$130.693724.3%9 W · 28 L-5.4wins-0.15per pick39cpaid-40.2%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed SPARTA55c243.39$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.8661154.7%334 W · 277 L+11.1wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbfce…5c3ebacked SPARTA54c221.5$121 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$120.618537.6%32 W · 53 L-4.7wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-16.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked SPARTA10c216.47$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.344,69143.6%2,043 W · 2,648 L-83.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-21.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xaa6c…a9b3backed SPARTA56c205.36$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1151,16354.3%631 W · 532 L-38.8wins-0.03per pick58cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1c98…186dbacked SPARTA53c196$105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$104.7935947.9%172 W · 187 L-10.1wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-10.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2ca6…6a20backed SPARTA52c192.31$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10047447.5%225 W · 249 L-12.7wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-3.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8f4c…dd9abacked SPARTA55c181.5$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.36540%2 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.13per pick53cpaid-6.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x29e3…0d66backed ex-RUBY40c181.36$72 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$109.613438.2%13 W · 21 L+1.5wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+17%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfda7…8136backed ex-RUBY78c166$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$361384.6%11 W · 2 L+2.7wins+0.21per pick64cpaid+27.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x7899…cdfebacked SPARTA54c156.5$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.463243.8%14 W · 18 L-1.9wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-15.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1c27…21a9backed SPARTA56c150.23$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.7823158.4%135 W · 96 L-1.1wins0.00per pick59cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4b1a…d790backed SPARTA55c150$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.857946.8%37 W · 42 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x07f9…1513backed SPARTA53c147.17$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7844343.3%192 W · 251 L-7.1wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-10.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7344…98f6backed SPARTA31c147.11$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4618043.3%78 W · 102 L-3.1wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8e8f…870ebacked SPARTA49c145.39$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.2422542.7%96 W · 129 L+6.6wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+11.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3776…e17abacked SPARTA54c145$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.125549.1%27 W · 28 L-2.3wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-7.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6013…9826backed SPARTA71c141.31$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10011863.6%75 W · 43 L-3.4wins-0.03per pick66cpaid-3.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf6ee…0e41backed SPARTA51c139.96$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.381,03839.9%414 W · 624 L+20.9wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+5.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa233…dfe8backed SPARTA9c133.83$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.5510%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.09per pick9cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfcc9…e4afbacked SPARTA57c133.33$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$767143.7%31 W · 40 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-9.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xf9e4…24c2backed SPARTA49c131.66$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6533354.4%181 W · 152 L+10.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+8.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xce7c…17cfbacked SPARTA56c129.15$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$723348.5%16 W · 17 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-6.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x35e7…8331backed ex-RUBY45c125$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68.7599148.3%479 W · 512 L+9.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x389d…995fbacked SPARTA46c123.01$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.337040%28 W · 42 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-5.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x96cc…08f7backed SPARTA55c109.09$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.11per pick61cpaid-26.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaabb…2b32backed SPARTA54c106.39$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57.872669.2%18 W · 8 L+3.5wins+0.14per pick56cpaid+35.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb52b…9646backed ex-RUBY47c106.21$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.3622059.1%130 W · 90 L+6.2wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x19fc…8357backed ex-RUBY60c103.43$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.793100%3 W · 0 L+1.2wins+0.41per pick59cpaid+68.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed ex-RUBY46c103.24$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.752,62451.8%1,359 W · 1,265 L+18.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe026…0404backed SPARTA55c102.28$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.2544552.4%233 W · 212 L+5.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0241…fd36backed ex-RUBY45c100$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5540155.1%221 W · 180 L+1.7wins0.00per pick55cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xae8e…08f9backed ex-RUBY49c100$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5137050.5%187 W · 183 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1eb3…6bfebacked SPARTA53c100$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$537540%30 W · 45 L-6.0wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-20.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6ffb…f7f0backed SPARTA60c99.27$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6030951.5%159 W · 150 L-4.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x72ab…30fcbacked SPARTA55c94.44$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.64057.5%23 W · 17 L+2.2wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+12.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x82a2…a875backed SPARTA17c94.24$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$162740.7%11 W · 16 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-14.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x308b…35e9backed ex-RUBY73c93.15$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.152100%2 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.32per pick68cpaid+47.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x349e…867bbacked ex-RUBY63c81.35$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.1974653.5%399 W · 347 L+9.7wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x66ea…6791backed SPARTA51c78.4$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4017948%86 W · 93 L+4.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+9.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4572…47e7backed ex-RUBY38c74.81$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.1345645.2%206 W · 250 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-6.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb1b2…4ec3backed ex-RUBY46c73.33$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.67164.8%46 W · 25 L+5.0wins+0.07per pick58cpaid+8.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6af4…e516backed ex-RUBY69c72.46$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.461968.4%13 W · 6 L+1.6wins+0.08per pick60cpaid+4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x29a5…a3c4backed ex-RUBY69c65.2$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.931,00355.7%559 W · 444 L+24.5wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-0.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6376…0d2abacked SPARTA52c62.55$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.2489248%428 W · 464 L-13.2wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x67b1…63ecbacked SPARTA21c61.9$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1321623.6%51 W · 165 L-27.4wins-0.13per pick36cpaid-39.1%equal weight37-0.11 edge/pick
0xc1be…6471backed ex-RUBY49c61.4$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.442757.8%247 W · 180 L+0.9wins0.00per pick58cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa497…7891backed SPARTA27c60.38$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.5711259.8%67 W · 45 L+4.0wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+1.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfe84…54ddbacked SPARTA50c59.99$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.9938753.2%206 W · 181 L+8.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1c67…a479backed SPARTA57c59.98$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.1920258.9%119 W · 83 L+3.8wins+0.02per pick57cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd98…6178backed SPARTA55c56.4$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.021275%9 W · 3 L+2.2wins+0.18per pick57cpaid+43.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x6d9c…5369backed SPARTA39c53.93$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.1518758.3%109 W · 78 L+10.6wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+3.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x3303…9895backed SPARTA59c53.13$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.494153.7%22 W · 19 L-4.9wins-0.12per pick66cpaid-23.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x8f93…bffabacked ex-RUBY73c52.25$38 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.2578963.8%503 W · 286 L-2.5wins0.00per pick64cpaid-3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2661…6c28backed ex-RUBY49c52.21$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.712055%11 W · 9 L+1.8wins+0.09per pick46cpaid+20.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xbe53…2dbabacked ex-RUBY73c50$36 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.61,27471.5%911 W · 363 L+3.3wins0.00per pick71cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8c76…477abacked SPARTA32c50$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1615648.1%75 W · 81 L+5.6wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+7.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x641f…942bbacked SPARTA60c49.8$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.9413756.2%77 W · 60 L+9.0wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+0.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x1fff…6dd1backed SPARTA53c48.36$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.6330%0 W · 3 L-1.4wins-0.46per pick46cpaid-100%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3102…ccb4backed ex-RUBY68c44.12$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.121100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.32per pick68cpaid+47.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x44d3…e454backed SPARTA52c43.11$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.42425%1 W · 3 L-1.0wins-0.25per pick50cpaid-63.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb676…2dbbbacked ex-RUBY75c40.01$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10.0113954%75 W · 64 L+0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe18d…9c5bbacked SPARTA33c39.52$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.0415951.6%82 W · 77 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-7.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x973f…4b3ebacked SPARTA60c38.33$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.92227.3%6 W · 16 L-1.3wins-0.06per pick33cpaid-36.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8f0b…ef1dbacked SPARTA52c37.6$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.555438.9%21 W · 33 L-6.4wins-0.12per pick51cpaid-24.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x8359…5944backed SPARTA33c35.71$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.7869732%223 W · 474 L-46.0wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-32.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.