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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: Lavked vs Butterfly (BO3) - NODWIN Clutch Series Group Stage

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Lavkedof Lavked, Butterfly
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$149,125
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$166,842

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $149,125 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 211 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x4ebc…a33dbacked Lavked53c18,459$9,740 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,719.5663057.1%360 W · 270 L+40.4wins+0.06per pick51cpaid-6.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Lavked54c7,235$3,927 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,307.851,56729.8%467 W · 1,100 L-86.0wins-0.05per pick35cpaid-39%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa80c…5a6dbacked Butterfly65c5,134$3,360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,360.355759.6%34 W · 23 L-0.3wins0.00per pick60cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x67ce…100fbacked Butterfly64c4,237$2,703 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,703.59753.6%52 W · 45 L-1.9wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa28a…01c5backed Butterfly53c4,201$2,213 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,212.944459.1%26 W · 18 L+3.1wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+15.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf1d5…54d5backed Butterfly48c3,080$1,492 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,491.5241050.7%208 W · 202 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x3db4…d69bbacked Butterfly55c3,000$1,650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,649.9974956.7%425 W · 324 L+47.3wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+13.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x2ddc…c874backed Butterfly47c3,000$1,410 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,409.981861.1%11 W · 7 L+2.5wins+0.14per pick47cpaid+26.3%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x051c…ca3fbacked Lavked60c2,840$1,715 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,124.8335347.9%169 W · 184 L-12.0wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x8f0b…eb6dbacked Lavked49c2,813$1,383 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,430.3116343.6%71 W · 92 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-13.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3123…b44dbacked Butterfly54c2,674$1,434 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,434.2419252.1%100 W · 92 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Lavked38c2,643$993 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,650.512,60830.9%807 W · 1,801 L-103.7wins-0.04per pick35cpaid-29.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x637b…948bbacked Lavked58c2,577$1,487 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,090.187364.4%47 W · 26 L+9.8wins+0.13per pick51cpaid+29.2%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xed44…4f76backed Lavked52c2,190$1,130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,059.3151842.3%219 W · 299 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-24.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked Lavked49c2,183$1,072 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,110.733,88836.6%1,423 W · 2,465 L-197.3wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-29.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Lavked49c2,133$1,045 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,088.565,26231.3%1,647 W · 3,615 L-381.6wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-37.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x64d4…f056backed Butterfly5c1,909$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$103.3566436.6%243 W · 421 L-35.9wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-29.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked Butterfly55c1,841$1,015 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,015.265,02855%2,763 W · 2,265 L+112.5wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc0f1…8680backed Butterfly61c1,672$1,027 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,027.362,52043%1,084 W · 1,436 L+42.5wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x805d…f780backed Butterfly62c1,618$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0002853.6%15 W · 13 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x87a3…5857backed Lavked49c1,576$765 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$810.3219347.2%91 W · 102 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Lavked48c1,528$737 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$790.667,89250.5%3,983 W · 3,909 L+182.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Lavked55c1,451$803 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$647.796,46642.9%2,777 W · 3,689 L-78.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed Lavked40c1,421$568 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$852.9380542.2%340 W · 465 L-16.1wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbfab…f067backed Butterfly43c1,400$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60040%0 W · 4 L-2.5wins-0.63per pick63cpaid-100%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xedcc…41a1backed Butterfly55c1,400$770 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$769.9821953.4%117 W · 102 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5c18…2f76backed Lavked55c1,347$746 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$601.2287330.9%270 W · 603 L-62.0wins-0.07per pick38cpaid-35.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xcd30…fc9bbacked Lavked45c1,333$597 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$736.069443.6%41 W · 53 L-5.0wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-20.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xddc3…029cbacked Butterfly44c1,310$575 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$574.9592456.8%525 W · 399 L+2.0wins0.00per pick57cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6b26…8c32backed Butterfly20c1,236$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249.812750.4%64 W · 63 L+7.8wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Lavked39c1,226$473 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$752.345,47446.9%2,565 W · 2,909 L+38.6wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-4.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x984f…9a43backed Butterfly37c1,200$442 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$441.998369.9%58 W · 25 L+17.4wins+0.21per pick49cpaid+42.2%equal weight68+0.16 edge/pick
0xa2f9…cfd8backed Butterfly52c1,105$579 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$578.666643.9%29 W · 37 L-0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9e4a…4efebacked Butterfly44c1,055$465 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$465.417357.5%42 W · 31 L+5.1wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+6.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x1b27…d405backed Butterfly49c1,029$503 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$502.82520%1 W · 4 L-0.8wins-0.16per pick36cpaid-28.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8a70…0519backed Lavked48c1,006$487 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$519.2838835.6%138 W · 250 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-5.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xb40e…7787backed Lavked46c1,003$458 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$544.8920643.2%89 W · 117 L-13.4wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-12.6%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4f41…547cbacked Lavked53c999.99$530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47024447.1%115 W · 129 L+4.3wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x050e…d92fbacked Butterfly64c999.39$642 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$641.6122056.8%125 W · 95 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf369…8283backed Lavked33c913.06$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$613.068446.4%39 W · 45 L+8.0wins+0.10per pick37cpaid+40.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc84f…bb5bbacked Butterfly51c900$458 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4586743.3%29 W · 38 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-14.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7004…a778backed Butterfly57c783.98$447 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$446.8730155.8%168 W · 133 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+8.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0e50…2609backed Butterfly56c778.4$436 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$435.9159055.3%326 W · 264 L+6.0wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xefbc…b344backed Butterfly9c750$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.540542%170 W · 235 L-10.4wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-17%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5135…7217backed Lavked41c715.59$292 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$423.81,60552.6%845 W · 760 L+57.1wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked Lavked48c675.7$322 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$353.813,41529.3%1,001 W · 2,414 L-275.1wins-0.08per pick37cpaid-43.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xc4bb…22a9backed Butterfly49c672.73$331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$331.4527647.1%130 W · 146 L-9.9wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2ecb…7645backed Butterfly12c652.11$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75.631,54633.8%523 W · 1,023 L-73.9wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-33.2%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x1614…0bedbacked Butterfly57c621.14$352 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$351.519837.8%37 W · 61 L-9.0wins-0.09per pick47cpaid-19.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xb71e…641abacked Lavked72c618.96$444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$175.1710438.5%40 W · 64 L-4.2wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-25%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb55b…c5b4backed Butterfly51c594.6$301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.7835153.8%189 W · 162 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xfc38…d93fbacked Butterfly66c588.8$388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$388.025050%25 W · 25 L-3.4wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xfbe8…bb28backed Lavked44c559.32$246 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$313.2222044.5%98 W · 122 L-4.5wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-5.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe222…6019backed Butterfly54c555.56$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3004450%22 W · 22 L-1.6wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-2.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xab04…a00abacked Butterfly50c550$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27517240.1%69 W · 103 L-10.9wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-14.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Lavked47c514.86$244 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.763,16545.7%1,446 W · 1,719 L-74.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-15.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc386…386fbacked Butterfly51c508.68$260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$259.6725744.4%114 W · 143 L+11.3wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+29.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4419…fcf4backed Butterfly56c499.97$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$279.989063.3%57 W · 33 L+5.6wins+0.06per pick57cpaid+10.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc7d0…1f8abacked Butterfly48c490.39$237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$236.741,59146.6%741 W · 850 L+30.3wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-11.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6421…045dbacked Lavked40c478.58$192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$287.0215349.7%76 W · 77 L+4.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd84d…cc32backed Butterfly21c471$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.3332748.6%159 W · 168 L+7.9wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa369…3ad6backed Lavked53c462.54$245 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$217.6832746.5%152 W · 175 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x67af…61eebacked Lavked54c447.01$239 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$207.61,63043.2%704 W · 926 L-32.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-18.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x588d…3f41backed Lavked44c446.51$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$250.0583443.6%364 W · 470 L-8.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xddb6…b9b3backed Lavked41c435.36$181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$254.752,49141.1%1,023 W · 1,468 L-114.2wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-22.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8c8b…7a07backed Butterfly59c429.52$253 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$253.4220859.1%123 W · 85 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+3.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe54e…4a99backed Butterfly60c426.24$255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$254.764761.7%29 W · 18 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick58cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xa2c3…0566backed Butterfly62c424.25$263 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$263.399562.1%59 W · 36 L+7.2wins+0.08per pick54cpaid+14.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x88f2…a6c1backed Lavked57c411.99$234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$178.1713053.1%69 W · 61 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+8.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x3f20…934fbacked Butterfly43c407.34$174 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$173.5231963%201 W · 118 L+17.1wins+0.05per pick58cpaid+7.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb21b…88f9backed Lavked44c397.73$175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.7346354%250 W · 213 L+12.9wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8728…0882backed Lavked44c389$170 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$219.1112244.3%54 W · 68 L+6.2wins+0.05per pick39cpaid+6.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf5b6…eec6backed Lavked51c386.71$197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$189.532152.4%11 W · 10 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-10.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2140…0e12backed Lavked42c385.09$162 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$223.3554339.4%214 W · 329 L-21.3wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-11.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd544…4994backed Butterfly50c375.23$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.972347.8%11 W · 12 L-0.6wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-8.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcecf…e84fbacked Lavked44c370.45$163 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$207.455827.6%16 W · 42 L-6.5wins-0.11per pick39cpaid-31.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x389c…7780backed Lavked53c370.2$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$173.99862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.4wins+0.06per pick57cpaid+19.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xcf00…353fbacked Lavked40c365$147 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$217.8714441.7%60 W · 84 L+4.9wins+0.03per pick38cpaid+10%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe7e5…cc65backed Lavked53c358.76$191 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$168.1922346.2%103 W · 120 L+7.0wins+0.03per pick43cpaid-15.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1b59…0ba0backed Lavked36c353.04$127 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$226.0754938.4%211 W · 338 L+11.5wins+0.02per pick36cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xec8c…3bcdbacked Butterfly57c351$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.7235131.1%109 W · 242 L-4.8wins-0.01per pick32cpaid-12.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4a3f…4333backed Butterfly56c349.73$196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.8545854.8%251 W · 207 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7786…c005backed Lavked42c330$139 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$191.422142.1%93 W · 128 L-13.2wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-15.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked Lavked72c322.85$233 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.6474633.4%249 W · 497 L-48.6wins-0.07per pick40cpaid-30.8%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x35e7…8331backed Lavked40c300$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18098248.3%474 W · 508 L+9.0wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb6c5…20d0backed Butterfly63c297.11$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.6260755%334 W · 273 L+10.5wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe30a…fcd8backed Lavked45c294.29$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$163.293638.9%14 W · 22 L-3.3wins-0.09per pick48cpaid-23%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7c8c…2d81backed Lavked51c286.9$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$140.6343448.4%210 W · 224 L-3.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-7.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7dc3…0e9cbacked Lavked44c279.55$123 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$156.551338.5%5 W · 8 L0.0wins0.00per pick38cpaid-13.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x94a1…2075backed Lavked37c269.76$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$169.7644944.8%201 W · 248 L+0.5wins0.00per pick45cpaid+2.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x94d2…cfbdbacked Butterfly47c268.99$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$127.452,08447%979 W · 1,105 L-64.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-18.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd0ac…7deebacked Lavked65c265.23$171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$94.0843152.9%228 W · 203 L+26.6wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+0.3%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x2d40…dd57backed Lavked43c258.36$111 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$147.2711840.7%48 W · 70 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-6.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5505…aa44backed Lavked39c249.39$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.7638841.8%162 W · 226 L+8.1wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1cdd…e595backed Butterfly32c247.78$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80.322,46724.6%606 W · 1,861 L-318.3wins-0.13per pick37cpaid-51.8%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0x0d78…b8b9backed Butterfly56c247.37$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.0516450.6%83 W · 81 L+6.0wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+6.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8847…fc98backed Lavked73c246.2$180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.6224740.9%101 W · 146 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-7.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x14f3…0796backed Lavked46c237.85$109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$128.3989046.1%410 W · 480 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-8.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d89…7740backed Butterfly64c234.38$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15010%0 W · 1 L-0.6wins-0.64per pick64cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5d63…9075backed Lavked54c227.38$122 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.97850%4 W · 4 L+0.5wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+55.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.