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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Tundra Esports vs Team Liquid - Game 1 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Tundra Esportsof Tundra Esports, Team Liquid
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$204,651
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$246,513

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $204,651 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 164 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf9b5…09eebacked Team Liquid43c40,115$17,275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,274.8955157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3833…33d1backed Tundra Esports55c20,000$11,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,999.9942650%213 W · 213 L+4.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x66fb…9f72backed Team Liquid46c15,842$7,317 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,316.5454556.5%308 W · 237 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Team Liquid43c15,134$6,528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,527.662,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1b5e…83f8backed Tundra Esports55c15,000$8,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,749.99250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-9.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4572…83ffbacked Tundra Esports58c14,795$8,654 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,140.5253451.7%276 W · 258 L+2.3wins0.00per pick51cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x90a1…73d6backed Tundra Esports56c9,300$5,208 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,091.992751.9%14 W · 13 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7600…4478backed Team Liquid45c9,000$4,050 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,05022647.3%107 W · 119 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Tundra Esports55c7,287$4,025 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,262.2596557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked Tundra Esports50c5,014$2,486 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,528.921,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Tundra Esports58c2,907$1,686 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,220.9233850.9%172 W · 166 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Team Liquid47c2,454$1,144 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,143.742,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2146…d41bbacked Tundra Esports48c2,077$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,077.1289741.5%372 W · 525 L+22.7wins+0.03per pick39cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xed10…15edbacked Tundra Esports59c1,813$1,069 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$744.4988166.7%588 W · 293 L+76.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+12.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x75b3…be68backed Tundra Esports57c1,754$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$754.383250%16 W · 16 L+1.6wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+25.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfbc2…514cbacked Team Liquid21c1,744$363 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36333845.6%154 W · 184 L+6.4wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-5.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x913c…39b3backed Team Liquid22c1,609$358 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$358.0971454.5%389 W · 325 L+55.6wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.9%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x1a12…d212backed Team Liquid47c1,489$697 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$697.258957.3%51 W · 38 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3c29…21aabacked Tundra Esports59c1,382$809 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$572.678060%48 W · 32 L+3.2wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xdec6…1d8ebacked Team Liquid50c1,326$663 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6632254.5%12 W · 10 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x0738…6392backed Tundra Esports77c1,296$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$295.6221264.2%136 W · 76 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick63cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed Tundra Esports59c1,211$715 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$496.592231.8%7 W · 15 L-1.7wins-0.08per pick40cpaid-32.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6450…9547backed Team Liquid39c1,129$442 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44210141.6%42 W · 59 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-10.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed Team Liquid45c1,112$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$500.432854.9%180 W · 148 L+11.8wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x930b…0223backed Tundra Esports60c1,069$640 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$429.0423459%138 W · 96 L+0.6wins0.00per pick59cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1fe6…5d3fbacked Team Liquid25c1,010$253 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$252.69430.9%29 W · 65 L-6.0wins-0.06per pick37cpaid-25.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x4ffe…9f71backed Team Liquid2c969$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.926169.7%60 W · 556 L-2.0wins0.00per pick10cpaid-53.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf459…7a53backed Tundra Esports58c863.79$501 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$362.7910260.8%62 W · 40 L+5.7wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+9.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6e12…20e9backed Tundra Esports49c850$417 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$433.54245.2%19 W · 23 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-10.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed Tundra Esports48c800$386 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41458744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3a97…66f5backed Team Liquid66c761.04$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5009959.6%59 W · 40 L+6.7wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+12.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xed10…5e7abacked Team Liquid56c737.87$416 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$415.711833.3%6 W · 12 L-3.2wins-0.18per pick51cpaid-42.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x86e0…c394backed Team Liquid50c734.17$371 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$370.6980742.6%344 W · 463 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Team Liquid40c710.23$284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$284.072,37847.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L+15.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb4f9…32b1backed Team Liquid44c703$309 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309.0431245.8%143 W · 169 L+10.2wins+0.03per pick43cpaid-5.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5c25…9885backed Tundra Esports54c636.09$343 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$292.81850%4 W · 4 L+1.0wins+0.12per pick38cpaid+47.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xaacf…5f84backed Tundra Esports46c622.97$286 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$336.8459250.5%299 W · 293 L-20.7wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-10%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x245e…3cedbacked Tundra Esports52c622.54$323 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$299.772441.7%10 W · 14 L-1.2wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-17.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x00a1…5062backed Tundra Esports51c586.8$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$286.821346.5%99 W · 114 L-8.1wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1f04…5fc4backed Tundra Esports53c574.69$305 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.131545.4%143 W · 172 L-19.2wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-13.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x8a38…fee0backed Tundra Esports58c558.45$324 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$234.5560349.9%301 W · 302 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x6998…ae95backed Team Liquid19c519.99$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.316821.4%36 W · 132 L+0.4wins0.00per pick21cpaid-20.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0438…9d98backed Tundra Esports58c518.05$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$218.0520156.7%114 W · 87 L+0.9wins0.00per pick56cpaid-3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb9fb…95fbbacked Tundra Esports58c517.24$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$217.248854.5%48 W · 40 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1bcb…b05abacked Team Liquid33c503.02$166 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16638049.2%187 W · 193 L+13.1wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+168.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7a65…ffcdbacked Team Liquid44c501$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$220.449051.1%46 W · 44 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x084b…3de6backed Tundra Esports52c495.29$260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$235.4310741.1%44 W · 63 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-18.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0d03…9a41backed Team Liquid60c443.04$264 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$264.0523050.9%117 W · 113 L-0.3wins0.00per pick51cpaid-10.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0c67…d062backed Tundra Esports45c442.03$201 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$241.331,13742.3%481 W · 656 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf2ae…0864backed Team Liquid51c400$204 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20426661.7%164 W · 102 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick60cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4588…d206backed Tundra Esports55c399.98$220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$179.992171.4%15 W · 6 L+3.9wins+0.18per pick53cpaid+33.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x7447…91ecbacked Team Liquid38c362.26$137 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$136.756055%33 W · 27 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcbd6…5f73backed Team Liquid36c359.4$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$129.667143.7%31 W · 40 L-0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xac9c…50d8backed Team Liquid4c359$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.954522.2%10 W · 35 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick24cpaid-27.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc4b2…4ab2backed Tundra Esports55c350$191 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15928244%124 W · 158 L-5.1wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x363a…4a8dbacked Tundra Esports57c349.6$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$149.68258.5%48 W · 34 L-3.8wins-0.05per pick63cpaid-11%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x77f2…eec6backed Team Liquid48c312.5$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15055457.8%320 W · 234 L+12.3wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x98a7…b766backed Team Liquid62c312.28$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19360251.2%308 W · 294 L+3.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6ab4…96a5backed Team Liquid43c300$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12911854.2%64 W · 54 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfcf2…a469backed Team Liquid43c300$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12913455.2%74 W · 60 L+7.4wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+2.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x0d9e…456bbacked Tundra Esports73c300$219 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$812975.9%22 W · 7 L+4.9wins+0.17per pick59cpaid+32.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x1709…c148backed Team Liquid59c299.99$177 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17748352.4%253 W · 230 L-2.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8031…67e0backed Tundra Esports56c299.99$168 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13273743.6%321 W · 416 L-10.8wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xae4c…dcb9backed Team Liquid43c294$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.4228549.1%140 W · 145 L+4.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x127a…3344backed Tundra Esports75c285$213 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.713655.9%76 W · 60 L+8.0wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+3.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x24ca…5829backed Team Liquid44c280.86$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$124.7515452.6%81 W · 73 L+0.2wins0.00per pick52cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked Tundra Esports57c277.49$158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$119.3292056.4%519 W · 401 L+78.3wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x58c9…e194backed Team Liquid60c275.27$165 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1654035%14 W · 26 L-3.7wins-0.09per pick44cpaid-28.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked Tundra Esports56c272.47$153 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$119.8999844.4%443 W · 555 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2133…7903backed Team Liquid44c250$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11034443.9%151 W · 193 L-0.5wins0.00per pick44cpaid-10.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x80d8…b703backed Team Liquid47c243.27$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$114.5774549.3%367 W · 378 L0.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd0ad…bce9backed Tundra Esports58c241.53$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$101.534663%29 W · 17 L+1.7wins+0.04per pick59cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x0640…1cd6backed Tundra Esports60c238.18$143 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$95.271526.7%4 W · 11 L-2.1wins-0.14per pick41cpaid-49.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf138…c953backed Team Liquid35c237.11$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82.9910134.7%35 W · 66 L-11.2wins-0.11per pick46cpaid-35%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x077c…98abbacked Tundra Esports73c234.13$171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.315546.5%72 W · 83 L-2.7wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-8.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x17ca…87d1backed Team Liquid44c227.27$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10019552.8%103 W · 92 L-15.2wins-0.08per pick61cpaid-15%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x95cc…3533backed Team Liquid31c226.65$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.264667.4%31 W · 15 L+1.3wins+0.03per pick65cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xca4a…338abacked Team Liquid44c220.45$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$974351.2%22 W · 21 L-0.1wins0.00per pick51cpaid+3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Team Liquid37c208$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77.891,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Team Liquid45c205.27$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.641,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdca4…1c68backed Tundra Esports50c200$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10064149.9%320 W · 321 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa76e…dcb6backed Tundra Esports47c199.99$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.9934154.5%186 W · 155 L+15.8wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+12.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed Team Liquid52c197.55$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.7543647.5%207 W · 229 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x860e…a06dbacked Tundra Esports48c187.5$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.516440.2%66 W · 98 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9de4…7f2ebacked Tundra Esports71c179$127 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.912250%11 W · 11 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d7e…3248backed Team Liquid46c177.87$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.828726.4%23 W · 64 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick28cpaid-13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x01d4…33d8backed Tundra Esports59c173.39$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.4911757.3%67 W · 50 L+4.0wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1f4f…46c2backed Team Liquid66c170.48$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112.5236054.4%196 W · 164 L+12.1wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa528…2499backed Team Liquid44c162.4$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.053655.6%20 W · 16 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x75ab…eb07backed Team Liquid7c159$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.137846.2%36 W · 42 L+4.4wins+0.06per pick40cpaid+14.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe252…2071backed Team Liquid25c149.98$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.0917149.7%85 W · 86 L+6.7wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-1.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6326…6329backed Team Liquid53c141.51$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7515545.2%70 W · 85 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+6.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x675d…8f7abacked Tundra Esports44c140.61$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.952650%13 W · 13 L+0.5wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked Team Liquid55c139.12$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.0577458.5%453 W · 321 L+75.1wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x4814…9a18backed Team Liquid44c113.64$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501040%4 W · 6 L-1.8wins-0.18per pick58cpaid-35.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2a50…09f4backed Team Liquid44c113.64$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501741.2%7 W · 10 L-2.5wins-0.14per pick56cpaid-25.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x4b1f…31a3backed Tundra Esports58c111.17$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.69366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.6wins+0.20per pick47cpaid+33.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd236…a65ebacked Team Liquid45c111.11$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5013752.6%72 W · 65 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick53cpaid+0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3cec…4134backed Tundra Esports45c108.99$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.343548.6%17 W · 18 L+2.7wins+0.08per pick41cpaid+13.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe8a0…92dfbacked Team Liquid29c106.9$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311338.5%5 W · 8 L-1.0wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-24.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.