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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: MOUZ vs GamerLegion - Game 1 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
GamerLegionof MOUZ, GamerLegion
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$124,664
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$154,641

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $124,664 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 120 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x3833…33d1backed GamerLegion50c10,917$5,429 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,487.1742650%213 W · 213 L+4.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked MOUZ47c9,537$4,454 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,453.681,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe16d…5e30backed MOUZ49c7,900$3,878 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,877.811,21057.1%691 W · 519 L+44.5wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+4.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed GamerLegion51c7,000$3,570 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,429.9889440.3%360 W · 534 L+1.3wins0.00per pick40cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed MOUZ50c6,000$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,00015544.5%69 W · 86 L-5.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2146…d41bbacked MOUZ43c4,779$2,039 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,038.6789741.5%372 W · 525 L+22.7wins+0.03per pick39cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x540d…c8f9backed GamerLegion76c3,775$2,851 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$923.9238855.2%214 W · 174 L+29.8wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed GamerLegion54c3,636$1,975 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,660.4896557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x124e…6802backed GamerLegion78c3,434$2,675 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$759.9513068.5%89 W · 41 L+4.9wins+0.04per pick65cpaid+2.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9eca…5a59backed GamerLegion48c3,380$1,623 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,757.7340051.5%206 W · 194 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4bf8…2f4abacked MOUZ1c3,000$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$395034%17 W · 33 L+5.7wins+0.11per pick23cpaid-8.7%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x69bf…0c5dbacked MOUZ15c2,933$426 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$426.1236547.7%174 W · 191 L-1.0wins0.00per pick48cpaid-7.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3601…44fbbacked MOUZ44c2,731$1,189 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,188.9416954.4%92 W · 77 L+5.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1c8f…4d12backed MOUZ37c2,576$962 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$962.4235062.6%219 W · 131 L+44.4wins+0.13per pick50cpaid+26.9%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0xbff7…92fbbacked MOUZ12c2,517$297 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$296.6827143.5%118 W · 153 L-10.1wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-12.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed GamerLegion49c2,400$1,187 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,21356852.5%298 W · 270 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf3ce…a57abacked MOUZ52c2,252$1,171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,171.271,20259.3%713 W · 489 L+64.6wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+10.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed GamerLegion54c2,027$1,104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$922.991,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed MOUZ51c2,000$1,020 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,02080443.9%353 W · 451 L-1.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xef62…cf76backed GamerLegion59c1,984$1,172 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$811.4143344.8%194 W · 239 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-14.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked MOUZ53c1,837$974 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$973.7295342.2%402 W · 551 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2924…0f31backed MOUZ49c1,832$904 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$903.5247046.6%219 W · 251 L+1.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-12.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed GamerLegion47c1,779$836 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$942.7641351.8%214 W · 199 L+1.0wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x974f…cd80backed MOUZ31c1,626$511 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$511.4255147.5%262 W · 289 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed MOUZ51c1,500$770 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77058744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2aad…88d4backed GamerLegion74c1,472$1,091 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$381.5314443.8%63 W · 81 L-6.5wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-25.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xafd4…7e61backed GamerLegion47c1,385$651 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$734.2527153.5%145 W · 126 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked GamerLegion66c1,356$893 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$462.991,06657%608 W · 458 L+52.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+1.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6277…5a3fbacked GamerLegion50c1,191$599 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$592.4226843.7%117 W · 151 L-0.2wins0.00per pick44cpaid-6.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6ab7…ec3ebacked MOUZ4c1,170$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.1210%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.04per pick4cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked GamerLegion62c1,118$695 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$422.9299844.4%443 W · 555 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xca1f…ed28backed MOUZ43c1,083$462 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$461.5560552.6%318 W · 287 L+15.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked MOUZ33c1,068$355 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$355.1267043.3%290 W · 380 L-6.8wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-14%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7dfd…8d75backed MOUZ50c1,035$520 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$520.0524251.7%125 W · 117 L+21.0wins+0.09per pick43cpaid+15.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed MOUZ51c1,000$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51019742.1%83 W · 114 L-12.6wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x315f…85c6backed GamerLegion53c962.25$508 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$454.2429347.4%139 W · 154 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-8.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xab04…a00abacked GamerLegion50c942$471 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47137945.9%174 W · 205 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked MOUZ42c829.66$347 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$347.062,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdbb3…76a9backed GamerLegion62c720.65$447 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$273.8651751.3%265 W · 252 L+21.8wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+1.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed MOUZ48c584.26$282 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$282.131,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbb11…8f3fbacked MOUZ46c564$259 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$259.4410551.4%54 W · 51 L-0.4wins0.00per pick52cpaid-7.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0c67…d062backed MOUZ52c560.31$291 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$291.361,13742.3%481 W · 656 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked MOUZ28c527.69$147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$146.531,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x47bd…bc9dbacked GamerLegion48c504.58$242 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$262.3841055.6%228 W · 182 L-9.8wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-3.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe76d…5a75backed GamerLegion50c500$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2501,24844.4%554 W · 694 L+17.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed GamerLegion47c497.63$234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$263.7449455.1%272 W · 222 L+6.0wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3dd1…2812backed MOUZ49c491.36$243 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242.5111836.4%43 W · 75 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-12.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x1b12…5f8fbacked GamerLegion50c488.79$244 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$244.429548.5%143 W · 152 L+0.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5808…d235backed MOUZ50c485$243 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242.511744.4%52 W · 65 L-0.3wins0.00per pick45cpaid-10.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfa88…85a5backed GamerLegion49c476.47$233 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24369644.5%310 W · 386 L-3.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0ee5…e798backed MOUZ50c423.62$213 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$213.4672035.1%253 W · 467 L-24.8wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-19.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed MOUZ23c400.2$92 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$91.541,12036.1%404 W · 716 L-39.4wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-31.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed MOUZ8c400$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$306132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7a57…968cbacked MOUZ51c397.87$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.720043.5%87 W · 113 L-4.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-2.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8705…edbabacked MOUZ50c387.23$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.6343049.1%211 W · 219 L+15.8wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x368d…d853backed MOUZ19c386$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.3461548.8%300 W · 315 L+8.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked MOUZ26c382.23$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.1992056.4%519 W · 401 L+78.3wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x9031…554bbacked GamerLegion72c349.12$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.8910262.7%64 W · 38 L+3.0wins+0.03per pick60cpaid-0.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x812a…73edbacked MOUZ36c342.01$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$123.637223.1%86 W · 286 L-38.2wins-0.10per pick33cpaid-38.8%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x473f…9892backed GamerLegion48c312.5$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$162.550053%265 W · 235 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2761…4d95backed MOUZ50c294.8$147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$147.444645.7%204 W · 242 L+0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf6bf…05b6backed MOUZ16c276.84$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.322227.3%6 W · 16 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick29cpaid-10.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xeea8…0412backed MOUZ51c272.15$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$138.88946.1%41 W · 48 L-4.3wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-10.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5cab…a8cfbacked GamerLegion77c256.16$197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.9235370%247 W · 106 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick69cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe6a1…d6ecbacked MOUZ12c249.99$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3014452.1%75 W · 69 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-12.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf32d…bbbbbacked GamerLegion53c227.16$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$106.7761057.9%353 W · 257 L+2.8wins0.00per pick57cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4d44…49e6backed MOUZ52c224.12$117 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$116.5472154%389 W · 332 L-8.8wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4dde…cff5backed GamerLegion49c203.57$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.8233644%148 W · 188 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6628…05aebacked MOUZ49c195.86$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.9715342.5%65 W · 88 L+2.7wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed MOUZ41c175.63$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.332,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb29a…bbdebacked MOUZ26c157.3$41 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.96141%25 W · 36 L-2.4wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-10.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf437…ff9bbacked GamerLegion51c152.69$78 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74.8232148.3%155 W · 166 L-6.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x848d…9867backed GamerLegion73c150$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4092561.2%566 W · 359 L+53.8wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+3.9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xc63b…6e4ebacked MOUZ22c136$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.1535032.3%113 W · 237 L-7.1wins-0.02per pick34cpaid-22%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8b55…d74bbacked GamerLegion46c127.57$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68.8921045.7%96 W · 114 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+12.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4133…165bbacked MOUZ22c124.13$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.761,27533.5%427 W · 848 L-15.6wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-18.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed MOUZ12c120$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.469132.6%225 W · 466 L-26.8wins-0.04per pick36cpaid-27.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf6c8…a184backed MOUZ21c120$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.236044.2%159 W · 201 L+7.4wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x61fa…7f62backed GamerLegion75c115.59$87 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.8346451.5%239 W · 225 L-12.1wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x24bb…3e49backed MOUZ23c112.84$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.6365337.2%243 W · 410 L-15.1wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-28.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x87ed…b497backed GamerLegion51c110$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.922752.9%120 W · 107 L+3.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x127e…cca1backed GamerLegion79c102.15$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.8146150.8%234 W · 227 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-6.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4f9b…cdeebacked MOUZ23c99.61$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.6969033.3%230 W · 460 L-27.9wins-0.04per pick37cpaid-32.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd679…9ccfbacked GamerLegion70c99.1$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.7314058.6%82 W · 58 L+11.7wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+9.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x86bc…efbcbacked MOUZ51c97.06$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.5123555.7%131 W · 104 L-4.7wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-7.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed MOUZ35c96.05$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.881,03416.3%169 W · 865 L-158.1wins-0.15per pick32cpaid-51%equal weight33-0.15 edge/pick
0x85c3…700cbacked MOUZ38c95.29$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.2113850%69 W · 69 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked MOUZ13c93.1$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.8889938%342 W · 557 L-45.9wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-30%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x4d85…2560backed GamerLegion66c90$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.97954.4%43 W · 36 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked MOUZ16c83.95$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.4396645.1%436 W · 530 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-13.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked GamerLegion65c82.6$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.922,37847.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L+15.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8027…cf81backed GamerLegion53c78.6$42 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.9413152.7%69 W · 62 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4ec3…34a7backed MOUZ50c78.04$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.0256548%271 W · 294 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-12.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x65e0…e51dbacked GamerLegion65c75.74$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.819443.3%84 W · 110 L-9.2wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-15.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x80d8…b703backed GamerLegion70c75$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.6974549.3%367 W · 378 L0.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3c1e…9514backed GamerLegion51c66.61$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.6486451.7%447 W · 417 L+20.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd3f1…c252backed GamerLegion72c64.84$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.224949%24 W · 25 L-2.4wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-13.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf9be…a0c1backed MOUZ22c64$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.0725253.2%134 W · 118 L+20.3wins+0.08per pick45cpaid+7.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x86c8…fc02backed GamerLegion54c63.8$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.0430647.4%145 W · 161 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x38c5…0f5cbacked MOUZ54c53.48$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.8858250.5%294 W · 288 L+10.2wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.