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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: ex-HEROIC vs GamerLegion - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
ex-HEROICof ex-HEROIC, GamerLegion
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$79,821
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$86,738

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $79,821 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

All 99 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xd3b0…329ebacked ex-HEROIC51c8,500$4,338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,162.1680256%449 W · 353 L+22.9wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9eca…5a59backed ex-HEROIC54c6,332$3,388 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,943.8340051.5%206 W · 194 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed GamerLegion48c6,023$2,878 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,877.5745750.8%232 W · 225 L+14.3wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7dfd…8d75backed ex-HEROIC50c5,176$2,566 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,610.1624251.7%125 W · 117 L+21.0wins+0.09per pick43cpaid+15.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked GamerLegion50c4,894$2,445 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,445.4395342.2%402 W · 551 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2146…d41bbacked GamerLegion33c3,295$1,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,10089741.5%372 W · 525 L+22.7wins+0.03per pick39cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed GamerLegion44c3,044$1,338 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,337.671,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd206…bd2abacked ex-HEROIC51c2,663$1,370 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,292.9715957.2%91 W · 68 L+8.3wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+10.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3af1…d739backed GamerLegion52c2,604$1,354 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,353.8522644.7%101 W · 125 L-6.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed GamerLegion47c2,575$1,213 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,213.151,03647.2%489 W · 547 L+15.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked GamerLegion42c2,548$1,074 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,074.281,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x974f…cd80backed ex-HEROIC51c2,280$1,153 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,127.2755147.5%262 W · 289 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked GamerLegion44c2,040$897 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$897.11,15547.8%552 W · 603 L+29.5wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2761…4d95backed GamerLegion46c1,527$702 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$702.2844645.7%204 W · 242 L+0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed ex-HEROIC54c1,500$809 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$691.2749455.1%272 W · 222 L+6.0wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2775…3652backed GamerLegion40c1,405$560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$559.8233041.8%138 W · 192 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked GamerLegion47c1,294$608 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$608.4677256.5%436 W · 336 L+30.3wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+0.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb1cb…2345backed ex-HEROIC47c1,200$564 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63625935.5%92 W · 167 L-13.7wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-15.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xca1f…ed28backed GamerLegion51c1,200$612 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61260552.6%318 W · 287 L+15.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xab04…a00abacked ex-HEROIC50c1,170$585 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58537945.9%174 W · 205 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1365…c82abacked ex-HEROIC52c1,024$527 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$496.4261456%344 W · 270 L+13.5wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbff7…92fbbacked GamerLegion8c1,000$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8027143.5%118 W · 153 L-10.1wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-12.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed ex-HEROIC57c999.99$566 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$433.8980443.9%353 W · 451 L-1.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa35c…a113backed ex-HEROIC51c982.77$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$482.7761745.7%282 W · 335 L-12.4wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x19b6…ad8ebacked ex-HEROIC51c855.26$437 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$418.1632652.1%170 W · 156 L+8.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+1.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x62a9…3bb6backed ex-HEROIC61c821.37$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$321.3710546.7%49 W · 56 L-0.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4ec3…34a7backed GamerLegion44c740$328 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$327.9756548%271 W · 294 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-12.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4133…165bbacked ex-HEROIC59c720.65$424 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$296.691,27533.5%427 W · 848 L-15.6wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-18.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed ex-HEROIC51c708.9$362 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$347.3679959.4%475 W · 324 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick59cpaid-2.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed GamerLegion48c695.53$336 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$336.461,16447.2%549 W · 615 L-29.1wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-9.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked GamerLegion40c666.81$265 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$264.821,70241.2%701 W · 1,001 L-44.0wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-26.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked ex-HEROIC60c657.32$397 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$259.9196645.1%436 W · 530 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-13.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe872…819abacked GamerLegion41c650.11$268 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26822340.4%90 W · 133 L-8.7wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-14.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9958…b9acbacked ex-HEROIC54c634.52$343 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$291.267652.6%40 W · 36 L-3.1wins-0.04per pick57cpaid-5.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x67af…61eebacked GamerLegion11c615.23$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.2768345.8%313 W · 370 L-8.5wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-16.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked GamerLegion32c598.45$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.191,28045%576 W · 704 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-15%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x009b…26dabacked ex-HEROIC53c574.13$302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272.1321144.1%93 W · 118 L+7.9wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+3.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf3ce…a57abacked ex-HEROIC58c566.52$330 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$236.471,20259.3%713 W · 489 L+64.6wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+10.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x9a8e…9408backed GamerLegion24c550$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$132.596245.5%438 W · 524 L+22.1wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1d24…20b3backed GamerLegion42c525$221 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$221.4954246.7%253 W · 289 L-2.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-13.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8aa6…83f9backed GamerLegion42c504.2$209 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209.2920145.3%91 W · 110 L-4.9wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-14%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa042…5539backed GamerLegion41c500$205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20517454%94 W · 80 L+7.2wins+0.04per pick50cpaid-4.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x31d4…a7abbacked ex-HEROIC49c431.82$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.3116541.2%68 W · 97 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-5.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x82bf…de71backed GamerLegion39c423.38$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.5554753.6%293 W · 254 L+22.9wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+2.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x07fa…f5cdbacked ex-HEROIC51c400$204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19646240.7%188 W · 274 L+15.4wins+0.03per pick37cpaid+9.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x25c5…0031backed GamerLegion7c400$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$288918%16 W · 73 L-3.7wins-0.04per pick22cpaid-38.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9852…111abacked GamerLegion47c382.98$180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18020452.5%107 W · 97 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-4.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3304…8313backed ex-HEROIC66c368.59$243 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$125.328050%40 W · 40 L-3.6wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-10.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x80d8…b703backed GamerLegion46c302.21$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$138.974549.3%367 W · 378 L0.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x473f…9892backed ex-HEROIC51c294.12$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.1250053%265 W · 235 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked ex-HEROIC75c272.57$205 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67.341,15447.7%550 W · 604 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-12.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf629…38d5backed GamerLegion41c247.06$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101.29944.4%4 W · 5 L-0.7wins-0.08per pick53cpaid-38.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf34b…bcb3backed ex-HEROIC50c227.5$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.7558356.8%331 W · 252 L+28.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+9.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed GamerLegion34c221.05$74 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$74.472,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe76d…5a75backed ex-HEROIC45c221$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.541,24844.4%554 W · 694 L+17.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xed10…15edbacked ex-HEROIC53c200$106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9488166.7%588 W · 293 L+76.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+12.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x5839…3fa8backed ex-HEROIC58c168.04$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.056758.2%39 W · 28 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick61cpaid-7.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked GamerLegion42c162.33$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.942,37847.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L+15.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1025…fbfabacked ex-HEROIC56c161.6$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.630255.3%167 W · 135 L+10.5wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed GamerLegion43c160.54$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69.0365647.3%310 W · 346 L-8.0wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-8.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed GamerLegion50c140$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7065441.9%274 W · 380 L-1.3wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x57d5…0bbdbacked GamerLegion39c138.24$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.3853139.5%210 W · 321 L-37.2wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-29.6%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked ex-HEROIC62c130.27$81 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.471,45848.5%707 W · 751 L+27.0wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-14.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x812a…73edbacked GamerLegion46c123.19$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.6137223.1%86 W · 286 L-38.2wins-0.10per pick33cpaid-38.8%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed GamerLegion52c100.26$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.141,26049.7%626 W · 634 L+21.7wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x48f7…3aebbacked GamerLegion48c100$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4866848.5%324 W · 344 L-11.5wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-7.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfcfe…d420backed ex-HEROIC47c100$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5319756.9%112 W · 85 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x05d3…c06abacked GamerLegion55c98.18$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5473554.7%402 W · 333 L-3.5wins0.00per pick55cpaid-2%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked GamerLegion41c96$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.881,06657%608 W · 458 L+52.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+1.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xa965…7f73backed ex-HEROIC52c84.99$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.826154.8%143 W · 118 L+11.6wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7be8…0f50backed ex-HEROIC50c79.84$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.854860.4%29 W · 19 L+3.2wins+0.07per pick54cpaid+13.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9aee…8c24backed ex-HEROIC51c77.69$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.6918256%102 W · 80 L+5.5wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+5.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4861…9acfbacked GamerLegion44c77$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.995257.7%30 W · 22 L+3.1wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+8.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x71ff…6465backed ex-HEROIC51c76.13$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.031963.2%12 W · 7 L+1.4wins+0.07per pick56cpaid+11.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x77f2…eec6backed GamerLegion51c68.63$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3555457.8%320 W · 234 L+12.3wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf39a…fe47backed GamerLegion43c64.47$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.721,01345.5%461 W · 552 L-46.3wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-18.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x37c1…8de1backed GamerLegion45c60$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2741037.3%153 W · 257 L-7.8wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-9.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2a37…4daebacked GamerLegion51c58.82$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302133.3%7 W · 14 L-2.7wins-0.13per pick46cpaid-19.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd439…21d3backed ex-HEROIC54c55.16$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.1631644.9%142 W · 174 L-18.9wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-17.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4802…c8e1backed ex-HEROIC55c54.55$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.5518063.9%115 W · 65 L+10.0wins+0.06per pick58cpaid+7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x422d…7e39backed GamerLegion50c54.41$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2712452.4%65 W · 59 L+3.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x848d…9867backed GamerLegion50c50$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2592561.2%566 W · 359 L+53.8wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+3.9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x3162…d515backed ex-HEROIC49c48.11$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.3435948.2%173 W · 186 L-2.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-6.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x787d…aecdbacked ex-HEROIC65c47.18$31 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.426360.3%38 W · 25 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick61cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa836…753fbacked ex-HEROIC66c45.18$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15.47757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.4wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+6.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed GamerLegion40c39.14$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.651,03416.3%169 W · 865 L-158.1wins-0.15per pick32cpaid-51%equal weight33-0.15 edge/pick
0x0e24…b6d5backed ex-HEROIC51c38.85$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.8521055.2%116 W · 94 L+7.8wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+3.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7ffd…08fabacked GamerLegion55c36.36$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2014052.9%74 W · 66 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6933…7ea3backed ex-HEROIC58c34.48$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.483644.4%16 W · 20 L-2.4wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-17.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xafb4…ebf7backed GamerLegion47c34.26$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.12240.9%9 W · 13 L-0.7wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-7.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8fa6…dbd6backed ex-HEROIC65c30.77$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10.7722961.1%140 W · 89 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick62cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x96ef…cca4backed GamerLegion47c30.72$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.4116242.6%69 W · 93 L-6.2wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-20.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed GamerLegion44c28.58$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.5868649.7%341 W · 345 L+9.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x07cd…fbebbacked ex-HEROIC53c28.35$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.376753.7%36 W · 31 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf0ac…4ec7backed GamerLegion45c25.56$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.517338.7%67 W · 106 L-9.9wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-16.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa516…235cbacked ex-HEROIC56c25$14 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1130643.5%133 W · 173 L-22.6wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-17.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xd960…1adebacked ex-HEROIC58c22.41$13 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9.4133945.1%153 W · 186 L+12.3wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc646…e394backed ex-HEROIC55c20$11 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8.9737655.1%207 W · 169 L+4.8wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x28dd…f376backed ex-HEROIC52c20$10 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9.613653.7%73 W · 63 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid0%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.