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Knicks vs. Celtics

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Knicksof Knicks, Celtics
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$2,188,397
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$2,291,373

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $2,188,397 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 607 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xae36…8fb5backed Knicks69c231,798$159,622 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72,176.5210357.3%59 W · 44 L+9.1wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+5.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x011f…1122backed Knicks15c193,365$28,673 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$164,691.1546426.1%121 W · 343 L+0.4wins0.00per pick26cpaid-16.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1a63…e4b7backed Celtics78c143,000$111,540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111,540.09366.7%2 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.09per pick75cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x538f…588fbacked Knicks22c143,000$31,460 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$111,5401100%1 W · 0 L+0.8wins+0.78per pick22cpaid+354.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x11d7…52e1backed Celtics1c101,691$1,264 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,264.2920756%116 W · 91 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6790…5e06backed Knicks22c69,465$15,282 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54,182.497335.6%26 W · 47 L+5.4wins+0.07per pick28cpaid+9.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x727b…d1a2backed Knicks23c54,986$12,521 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42,464.8628341.7%118 W · 165 L+9.3wins+0.03per pick38cpaid-7.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa8e0…1dd2backed Celtics78c51,848$40,286 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40,286.396344.4%28 W · 35 L-4.1wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-3.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9a75…4347backed Knicks21c41,038$8,509 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32,529.0113248.5%64 W · 68 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xb083…b3f0backed Knicks36c39,648$14,146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25,501.3520248%97 W · 105 L-8.1wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-14%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Celtics53c31,777$16,739 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,739.11,40940.2%567 W · 842 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9d45…b661backed Knicks11c24,483$2,689 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,794.1213731.4%43 W · 94 L+4.9wins+0.04per pick28cpaid-0.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Knicks35c24,021$8,395 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,626.041,75240.6%712 W · 1,040 L-3.3wins0.00per pick41cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xafba…e61bbacked Celtics77c23,972$18,458 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,458.2747848.1%230 W · 248 L-9.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x889e…09e0backed Celtics64c20,003$12,902 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,901.7210926.6%29 W · 80 L-5.6wins-0.05per pick32cpaid-26.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6094…3bd9backed Knicks23c17,478$4,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,458.268536.5%31 W · 54 L+8.8wins+0.10per pick26cpaid+61.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x0f66…8938backed Knicks9c15,747$1,444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,302.5126431.8%84 W · 180 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick31cpaid+5.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfc25…1f7fbacked Knicks24c15,574$3,687 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,887.3896447.8%461 W · 503 L+35.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+17.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfba6…375cbacked Celtics78c14,170$11,072 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,071.7829957.2%171 W · 128 L+11.2wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+18.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xbedb…8687backed Celtics79c11,966$9,425 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,425.28425%1 W · 3 L-1.8wins-0.46per pick71cpaid-57.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xee00…cea1backed Knicks31c11,935$3,754 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,181.570147.8%335 W · 366 L+15.4wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-8.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe38e…c29dbacked Celtics78c11,690$9,151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,150.9713560.7%82 W · 53 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick63cpaid-4.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x24df…e8b2backed Knicks19c11,559$2,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,419.1737734%128 W · 249 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6a14…e79fbacked Knicks5c11,283$564 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,718.464654.3%25 W · 21 L+1.6wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+42.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x41b7…f6babacked Knicks11c10,000$1,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,90080146.4%372 W · 429 L-1.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5093…272cbacked Celtics0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10119.1%1 W · 10 L-0.3wins-0.03per pick12cpaid-77.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf27f…aed2backed Knicks22c10,000$2,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,800250%1 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.20per pick31cpaid+127.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xc9a6…4a91backed Celtics78c9,995$7,796 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,796.1250%1 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.20per pick70cpaid-18%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2791…2f45backed Celtics78c9,939$7,752 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,752.21650%3 W · 3 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6ba…d879backed Celtics78c9,269$7,224 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,223.75333.3%1 W · 2 L-1.1wins-0.36per pick70cpaid-56.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xbbaa…cbeabacked Celtics79c9,260$7,315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,315.162454.2%13 W · 11 L+0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid+3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf508…265cbacked Knicks63c8,183$5,130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,053.374484.1%37 W · 7 L+9.7wins+0.22per pick62cpaid+60.3%equal weight66+0.14 edge/pick
0x5fc8…39efbacked Celtics77c8,000$6,160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,1607051.4%36 W · 34 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Knicks22c7,500$1,675 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,82576850.3%386 W · 382 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x76c8…ba09backed Knicks53c7,165$3,818 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,347.347929.1%23 W · 56 L-2.0wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-17.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa8f2…5495backed Celtics68c7,051$4,770 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,770.455536.4%20 W · 35 L-3.7wins-0.07per pick43cpaid-15.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xa49b…4c40backed Knicks22c6,815$1,499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,315.714434%49 W · 95 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick33cpaid-5.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xdf33…261fbacked Knicks23c6,377$1,467 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,910.1917420.1%35 W · 139 L-4.7wins-0.03per pick23cpaid-11.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc6ab…5eb9backed Celtics79c6,329$5,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,0006873.5%50 W · 18 L+5.9wins+0.09per pick65cpaid+20.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x2c70…232abacked Knicks22c5,909$1,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,609.095337.7%20 W · 33 L+4.2wins+0.08per pick30cpaid+26%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Celtics40c5,795$2,302 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,301.623,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2f79…1608backed Celtics78c5,677$4,428 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,428.077447.3%35 W · 39 L-4.1wins-0.06per pick53cpaid-13%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x03f7…c0ccbacked Knicks21c5,406$1,135 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,270.7423648.7%115 W · 121 L-0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe169…a972backed Celtics79c5,063$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,000.08366.7%2 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick69cpaid+11.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Knicks22c5,050$1,111 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,938.931,78228%499 W · 1,283 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Knicks22c5,000$1,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,9001,19746.7%559 W · 638 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8f0b…eb6dbacked Celtics77c5,000$3,850 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,849.822137.6%83 W · 138 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x67ac…edf1backed Celtics76c4,903$3,739 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,738.518036.3%29 W · 51 L-8.1wins-0.10per pick46cpaid-24.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x325f…d8acbacked Celtics44c4,891$2,147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,146.8870640.8%288 W · 418 L+7.8wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-10.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3aad…4e00backed Knicks72c4,867$3,499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,367.521947.4%9 W · 10 L-1.9wins-0.10per pick57cpaid-25.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe1d5…5684backed Knicks14c4,500$651 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,848.494434.1%15 W · 29 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick33cpaid+4.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf586…f614backed Celtics70c4,306$3,027 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,027.253243.8%14 W · 18 L-3.7wins-0.11per pick55cpaid-22.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x874e…52d7backed Celtics64c4,218$2,691 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,690.524766%31 W · 16 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick62cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1515…4320backed Knicks21c4,201$889 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,312.25250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+136.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xde97…e43ebacked Knicks24c4,000$956 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,044.45843.1%25 W · 33 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-7.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5a24…ea91backed Celtics79c4,000$3,140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,14040%0 W · 4 L-3.0wins-0.76per pick76cpaid-100%equal weight38-0.10 edge/pick
0xe0db…f44ebacked Celtics78c4,000$3,120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,119.9979549.7%395 W · 400 L-0.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7f65…d7aebacked Knicks21c3,994$843 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,151.0325536.9%94 W · 161 L+3.4wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7678…102ebacked Celtics78c3,500$2,730 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,7301266.7%8 W · 4 L+1.8wins+0.15per pick52cpaid+92.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc0d9…da5ebacked Celtics78c3,462$2,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,7004339.5%17 W · 26 L-5.4wins-0.13per pick52cpaid-18.1%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xb22a…f94abacked Knicks22c3,431$755 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,676.181338.5%5 W · 8 L-2.2wins-0.17per pick55cpaid-10.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xa53e…8ba5backed Knicks24c3,312$795 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,516.93043.3%13 W · 17 L+3.0wins+0.10per pick33cpaid+30.8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x574e…3ef1backed Celtics45c3,283$1,468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,468.1130443.1%131 W · 173 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xf730…3de2backed Celtics78c3,236$2,524 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,523.938962.9%56 W · 33 L+6.9wins+0.08per pick55cpaid+6.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5446…9a43backed Knicks22c3,182$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,481.82540%2 W · 3 L-0.3wins-0.06per pick46cpaid+49.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x99cf…a86abacked Knicks22c3,174$683 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,491.2514034.3%48 W · 92 L-8.7wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-21.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x41ba…dfbbbacked Celtics79c3,165$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,5004465.9%29 W · 15 L+3.7wins+0.08per pick58cpaid+17.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x30ae…4318backed Celtics65c3,000$1,944 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,943.9529858.7%175 W · 123 L-8.5wins-0.03per pick62cpaid-8.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd04d…d0e5backed Celtics77c3,000$2,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,300.071,16449.6%577 W · 587 L+7.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6ff2…310cbacked Knicks17c3,000$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,499.991735.3%6 W · 11 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick34cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0537…13b6backed Knicks23c3,000$690 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,309.922462.5%15 W · 9 L+5.4wins+0.23per pick40cpaid+68.7%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xe908…c1fdbacked Knicks21c2,876$604 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,272.431181.8%9 W · 2 L+3.4wins+0.30per pick51cpaid+91.3%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x81f5…70afbacked Celtics72c2,860$2,070 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,069.6319448.5%94 W · 100 L+0.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid+3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9f9a…06d0backed Knicks24c2,846$673 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,172.375261.5%32 W · 20 L+2.9wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+27.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2509…e4dbbacked Knicks23c2,761$640 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,121.0766744.5%297 W · 370 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x89c9…9534backed Celtics10c2,700$267 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$267.1866153.3%352 W · 309 L+0.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe281…e7bfbacked Knicks21c2,677$575 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,101.921330.8%4 W · 9 L+1.5wins+0.11per pick19cpaid+139.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x80da…4f6dbacked Knicks17c2,616$441 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,174.453935.9%14 W · 25 L+3.1wins+0.08per pick28cpaid+62.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x4727…aa86backed Knicks15c2,408$361 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,046.47955.6%5 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.13per pick43cpaid+62.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe3ff…805cbacked Knicks4c2,333$95 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,238.3342827.3%117 W · 311 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1642…5988backed Celtics77c2,307$1,782 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,781.5536843.8%161 W · 207 L-17.8wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-12.2%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb13d…2e90backed Knicks28c2,294$642 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,652.7688053.8%473 W · 407 L+52.3wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+9.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x365a…2d70backed Knicks22c2,273$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,772.731100%1 W · 0 L+0.8wins+0.78per pick22cpaid+354.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xda87…4e9bbacked Knicks21c2,250$473 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,777.52015%3 W · 17 L-1.6wins-0.08per pick23cpaid-24.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf7dd…3696backed Knicks6c2,098$119 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,979.113831.6%12 W · 26 L+2.2wins+0.06per pick26cpaid+109.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8f19…b0cabacked Celtics1c2,000$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.0424423.8%58 W · 186 L-7.1wins-0.03per pick27cpaid-56.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x977a…f2cabacked Celtics1c2,000$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$131,2772.3%29 W · 1,248 L-11.7wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-84%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7e8b…4f21backed Knicks2c2,000$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,96812841.4%53 W · 75 L+3.3wins+0.03per pick39cpaid+55.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1f65…1592backed Celtics77c2,000$1,540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5402729.6%8 W · 19 L-5.6wins-0.21per pick50cpaid-33.3%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x0cd7…cd86backed Knicks21c2,000$420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,580771.4%5 W · 2 L+2.0wins+0.29per pick42cpaid+100.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xfcb0…c865backed Knicks23c2,000$460 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,5407953.2%42 W · 37 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x187b…26bfbacked Knicks23c2,000$460 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,54017348.6%84 W · 89 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6cae…f15ebacked Knicks4c2,000$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,9203633.3%12 W · 24 L+1.1wins+0.03per pick30cpaid+73.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Knicks27c2,000$547 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,452.85,84446.7%2,728 W · 3,116 L+32.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8b42…ae6ebacked Celtics68c1,966$1,345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,344.513636.8%50 W · 86 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc82e…9460backed Knicks36c1,912$693 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,219.2717044.1%75 W · 95 L-0.7wins0.00per pick45cpaid-6.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc677…7b4dbacked Knicks34c1,889$647 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,241.88757.1%4 W · 3 L+1.3wins+0.19per pick38cpaid+111.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x481b…74c1backed Knicks30c1,843$557 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,285.9748046%221 W · 259 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb786…b18dbacked Knicks54c1,821$990 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$830.51,31650.5%664 W · 652 L+42.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa320…8232backed Knicks23c1,766$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,365.617261.1%44 W · 28 L+8.3wins+0.11per pick50cpaid+30.4%equal weight59+0.09 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.