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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: K27 vs Virtus.pro (BO3) - CIS LAN Championship Playoffs

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Virtus.proof K27, Virtus.pro
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$80,252
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$88,998

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $80,252 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 185 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6185…2965backed Virtus.pro44c10,939$4,778 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,161.3414051.4%72 W · 68 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+8.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6b97…8d30backed K2756c6,500$3,640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,64066851.8%346 W · 322 L+8.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed K2756c6,369$3,597 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,596.872,62451.8%1,359 W · 1,265 L+18.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x82d2…beeabacked K2757c6,133$3,481 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,481.381,01152.3%529 W · 482 L+27.1wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9db8…2effbacked Virtus.pro44c5,652$2,464 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,187.6613043.1%56 W · 74 L+3.2wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked K2757c5,474$3,094 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,094.015,05055.1%2,781 W · 2,269 L+117.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xa927…8d9fbacked K2759c4,513$2,657 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,657.534559.1%204 W · 141 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed Virtus.pro50c3,390$1,704 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,685.984,22849.2%2,080 W · 2,148 L+59.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xffc7…2259backed Virtus.pro23c2,920$671 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,248.795442.6%23 W · 31 L+3.7wins+0.07per pick36cpaid+6.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x56d6…4404backed K2759c2,346$1,394 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,393.8364058.1%372 W · 268 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2529…548abacked Virtus.pro43c1,893$820 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,072.263,22551.2%1,651 W · 1,574 L+88.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-6.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked Virtus.pro44c1,649$731 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$917.871,62344.9%728 W · 895 L+4.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7cee…b72abacked Virtus.pro43c1,577$678 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$899.045354.7%29 W · 24 L+4.6wins+0.09per pick46cpaid+31.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xcb9b…6df8backed Virtus.pro41c1,500$615 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$884.9855845.7%255 W · 303 L-11.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x88b0…f8d8backed Virtus.pro42c1,494$633 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$860.8821744.7%97 W · 120 L+8.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+4.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Virtus.pro52c1,370$715 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$655.676,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked K2728c1,293$361 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$361.022,22141.3%917 W · 1,304 L-22.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-19.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xea1c…921bbacked Virtus.pro44c1,271$556 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$714.8812143.8%53 W · 68 L-4.7wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-11.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3449…4030backed Virtus.pro42c1,270$531 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$738.7613738.7%53 W · 84 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-6.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4cf7…4b3abacked Virtus.pro41c1,142$474 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$668.1815646.8%73 W · 83 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Virtus.pro29c1,093$313 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$780.481,41133.7%475 W · 936 L+42.1wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+8.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed K2750c1,002$504 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$503.874,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x24c7…77c4backed K2757c999.98$570 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$569.9918846.3%87 W · 101 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8ab9…d821backed Virtus.pro45c937.35$423 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$514.354055%22 W · 18 L+1.9wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+12.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x17cd…7423backed Virtus.pro43c873.12$373 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$500.2946243.3%200 W · 262 L+1.9wins0.00per pick43cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6e9e…102abacked K2758c857.82$498 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$497.549757.7%56 W · 41 L+8.0wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+17.7%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xaa0b…2debbacked Virtus.pro60c823.41$491 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$332.4135745.4%162 W · 195 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9def…6eacbacked K2757c790.08$448 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$448.520358.1%118 W · 85 L+22.4wins+0.11per pick47cpaid+25%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x787f…d40cbacked Virtus.pro41c760.98$314 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$447.4527940.5%113 W · 166 L-16.0wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-14.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x421e…1e47backed Virtus.pro49c754.77$368 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$386.779023.3%21 W · 69 L-9.4wins-0.10per pick34cpaid-32.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed K2744c738$327 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$327.465,83037.8%2,203 W · 3,627 L+79.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb888…b15bbacked K2755c727.27$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4003228.1%9 W · 23 L-4.4wins-0.14per pick42cpaid-32.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xa5a8…bf60backed Virtus.pro42c714.76$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$414.7698856.1%554 W · 434 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe337…1f6fbacked K2755c700$388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387.9226341.1%108 W · 155 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick40cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x589a…8dc5backed Virtus.pro44c693.18$305 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.1839038.5%150 W · 240 L-17.8wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-4.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7f46…9097backed Virtus.pro43c681.4$293 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.410249%50 W · 52 L+2.3wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+6.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked Virtus.pro62c678.89$420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$258.814,93337.4%1,844 W · 3,089 L-249.2wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-32.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xddbd…bcb5backed Virtus.pro20c627.7$124 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$503.716720.4%34 W · 133 L-13.2wins-0.08per pick28cpaid-35.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x36d8…c7c7backed Virtus.pro44c609.94$268 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$342.257641.5%239 W · 337 L-8.3wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa3f0…9384backed Virtus.pro42c533.33$224 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$309.335133.3%17 W · 34 L0.0wins0.00per pick33cpaid-9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc34b…9296backed K2757c529.2$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.292,00953.9%1,082 W · 927 L+7.6wins0.00per pick53cpaid+2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5135…7217backed Virtus.pro42c521.81$221 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$300.671,62052.7%853 W · 767 L+57.6wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1b78…e589backed K2744c500$222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22235861.7%221 W · 137 L+18.3wins+0.05per pick57cpaid+11.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xace6…5556backed K2756c499.99$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$279.9967651.8%350 W · 326 L+2.7wins0.00per pick51cpaid+4.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x85ae…5399backed Virtus.pro43c497$214 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$283.292536%9 W · 16 L-1.2wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-17.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5b0c…d43abacked Virtus.pro42c487.35$205 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$282.6646447.6%221 W · 243 L-3.6wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbe59…0d2ebacked K2753c427.14$225 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$225.2558343.6%254 W · 329 L+0.4wins0.00per pick43cpaid+0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4d62…5409backed K2759c423.73$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25048562.7%304 W · 181 L+2.8wins+0.01per pick62cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed K2756c406.65$228 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$227.7261154.7%334 W · 277 L+11.1wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1065…6218backed Virtus.pro45c401.7$181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$220.8248240%193 W · 289 L+8.7wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf6ee…0e41backed Virtus.pro42c400$168 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2321,03839.9%414 W · 624 L+20.9wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+5.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc7d0…1f8abacked K2756c394.3$222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$221.961,59146.6%741 W · 850 L+30.3wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-11.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9227…7cedbacked K2764c391.89$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249.1339847.7%190 W · 208 L-3.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid+3.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6df5…6430backed Virtus.pro37c381.96$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$241.981,27821.9%280 W · 998 L-24.3wins-0.02per pick24cpaid-16.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x41ff…b842backed Virtus.pro44c363.64$160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$203.643256.3%18 W · 14 L+2.8wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+15.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x88db…54a4backed Virtus.pro42c347.14$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$201.145242.3%22 W · 30 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick41cpaid+4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x35e7…8331backed Virtus.pro41c336.93$137 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$200.1299148.3%479 W · 512 L+9.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Virtus.pro63c321.04$202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$119.067,92550.4%3,997 W · 3,928 L+179.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf7da…43d9backed K2761c310$190 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$190.327156.1%152 W · 119 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1e8e…f9b2backed Virtus.pro32c301.67$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$205.039248.9%45 W · 47 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x18f3…0c20backed K2757c300$171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17126155.2%144 W · 117 L+5.7wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd41b…f231backed Virtus.pro68c294.75$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$94.754955.1%27 W · 22 L+0.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid-4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6326…6329backed Virtus.pro43c294.21$127 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$166.7159343.2%256 W · 337 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-7.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7ae4…fc82backed Virtus.pro43c285.94$123 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$162.994438.6%17 W · 27 L-1.5wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-19.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x74bd…d371backed K2758c276.54$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$160.391741.2%7 W · 10 L-1.8wins-0.11per pick52cpaid-10.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbe04…1481backed Virtus.pro43c267.44$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$152.4410541%43 W · 62 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick40cpaid+3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x69ba…b7bdbacked Virtus.pro42c267.22$113 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.27633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.1wins-0.18per pick52cpaid-23.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xba55…41f1backed Virtus.pro44c263$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$147.932142.9%9 W · 12 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1fe4…d0f1backed Virtus.pro43c253.92$109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.7312252.5%64 W · 58 L+0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x52c5…5878backed Virtus.pro41c253.61$104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$149.2814346.2%66 W · 77 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-9.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8a70…0519backed Virtus.pro40c251.59$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.5938835.6%138 W · 250 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-5.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Virtus.pro39c248.25$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.821,61846.8%758 W · 860 L-28.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd46e…d10dbacked K2741c246.76$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10053034.7%184 W · 346 L-32.8wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-19.8%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6766…0db2backed Virtus.pro41c245.18$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$145.184959.2%29 W · 20 L+5.9wins+0.12per pick47cpaid+29.4%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x83c8…3b6cbacked Virtus.pro41c243.9$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$143.91,04357.3%598 W · 445 L+17.5wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe6a5…e95dbacked Virtus.pro46c216.03$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$116.0358149.2%286 W · 295 L-17.2wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-8.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6c64…89babacked Virtus.pro45c210$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$116.0534542.3%146 W · 199 L-8.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-5.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x42ac…7b70backed Virtus.pro43c208.68$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$118.9510248%49 W · 53 L+9.5wins+0.09per pick39cpaid+12.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x8248…c0b2backed K2758c200$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11620750.7%105 W · 102 L-9.9wins-0.05per pick56cpaid-13.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb373…d97cbacked Virtus.pro38c200$76 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12458745.5%267 W · 320 L-15.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-11.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1ddd…1ad3backed K2752c199.99$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10415954.1%86 W · 73 L+4.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+2.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x08ff…ba79backed Virtus.pro43c188.32$81 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$107.341100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.57per pick43cpaid+132.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4b1a…d790backed Virtus.pro44c185$81 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.67946.8%37 W · 42 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb7d8…a577backed Virtus.pro46c184.35$85 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.556144.3%27 W · 34 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2b35…0bfebacked Virtus.pro43c180$77 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$102.691945.8%421 W · 498 L-10.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-6.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8cc2…d305backed K2758c180$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$104.48953.9%48 W · 41 L+2.2wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x609d…3fa9backed K2757c175.03$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.769963.6%63 W · 36 L+4.4wins+0.04per pick59cpaid+4.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9d17…9054backed Virtus.pro42c175$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$101.52560%15 W · 10 L+3.4wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+217.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x2757…55f0backed Virtus.pro44c170.16$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$95.9624641.9%103 W · 143 L-14.4wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-13.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xc0f1…8680backed Virtus.pro42c169.99$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.592,52243%1,085 W · 1,437 L+42.7wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcffd…a39dbacked Virtus.pro42c167.72$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.721450%7 W · 7 L-1.0wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-10.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb3bf…a509backed Virtus.pro62c161.07$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.071100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.38per pick62cpaid+61.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2cd2…5bf0backed Virtus.pro41c155$63 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$921154.5%6 W · 5 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick57cpaid+7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x85c3…700cbacked Virtus.pro40c153.23$61 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$92.2827549.5%136 W · 139 L+8.5wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+6.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf39a…fe47backed K2758c152.92$89 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89.32,06150.7%1,045 W · 1,016 L-18.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbf16…8a97backed Virtus.pro43c146$63 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$83.22450%2 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8a3b…5fa5backed K2756c141.65$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8021263.7%135 W · 77 L-0.5wins0.00per pick64cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcee6…0a45backed K2757c141.2$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80.3450056.6%283 W · 217 L+17.3wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xb441…f757backed K2757c139.99$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8018754%101 W · 86 L+5.6wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe026…0404backed K2756c139.04$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77.8644552.4%233 W · 212 L+5.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.