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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Team Lynx vs Rune Eaters (BO3) - European Pro League Playoffs

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Lynxof Team Lynx, Rune Eaters
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$114,941

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $114,941 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 104 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x7a8d…150bbacked Rune Eaters2c12,524$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.2210%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8e8c…65ddbacked Rune Eaters43c1,680$725 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$724.5434544.3%153 W · 192 L-15.8wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-11.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbb64…bfdcbacked Team Lynx46c1,392$635 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$756.9723653%125 W · 111 L+12.7wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+10.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe42b…7ea9backed Rune Eaters48c1,252$602 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$602.446535.1%163 W · 302 L+22.9wins+0.05per pick30cpaid+18.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6bba…d34cbacked Team Lynx58c1,008$587 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$420.331060%6 W · 4 L+0.3wins+0.03per pick57cpaid-1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Team Lynx57c992.97$566 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$426.9833850.9%172 W · 166 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbaa5…a51abacked Team Lynx80c947.57$758 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$189.5436654.1%198 W · 168 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x33c6…6daabacked Rune Eaters3c730.44$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.7100%0 W · 10 L-0.7wins-0.07per pick7cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe1d3…b8debacked Rune Eaters58c684.61$395 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$395.570052.3%366 W · 334 L+47.1wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+13.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xdc5a…bf71backed Rune Eaters57c642.54$364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$363.8446649.8%232 W · 234 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-12.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93c8…adffbacked Team Lynx51c590.2$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$290.27851.3%40 W · 38 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xce9d…3c05backed Team Lynx59c544.72$320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$224.7214251.4%73 W · 69 L+3.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-4.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xda5f…2e9bbacked Team Lynx55c542.82$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$242.8211557.4%66 W · 49 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x490a…1d4bbacked Rune Eaters49c492.18$241 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$241.177935.4%28 W · 51 L-4.3wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-6.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc42f…9390backed Rune Eaters60c415$248 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$247.859254.3%50 W · 42 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf740…cf50backed Rune Eaters74c410.05$303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$303.337856.4%44 W · 34 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick53cpaid-0.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Team Lynx38c358.57$136 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.112,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xabdf…9fe6backed Team Lynx37c339$125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$214.3475%3 W · 1 L+1.2wins+0.29per pick46cpaid+57.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed Team Lynx55c300$165 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13556852.5%298 W · 270 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4090…3e81backed Team Lynx40c300$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$180666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.5wins+0.08per pick59cpaid+17.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xdc33…aa3ebacked Rune Eaters50c300$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$149.67560%45 W · 30 L+9.1wins+0.12per pick48cpaid+18.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xe463…f7b2backed Rune Eaters33c300$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9920838.9%81 W · 127 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xecfa…3c6fbacked Rune Eaters38c298.2$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$114.793828.9%11 W · 27 L-2.0wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-11.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x391d…def1backed Rune Eaters41c285.34$117 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$116.525935.6%21 W · 38 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-6.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3b54…db07backed Team Lynx54c275.84$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$125.843560%21 W · 14 L+3.5wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+19.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x9fca…e8edbacked Rune Eaters64c270.22$173 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$172.94944.4%4 W · 5 L+0.2wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+16.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4fc9…e444backed Rune Eaters53c252.43$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.0413228.8%38 W · 94 L-9.7wins-0.07per pick36cpaid-40%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x4488…579cbacked Team Lynx57c249.13$142 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$107.617565.3%49 W · 26 L+6.2wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+11.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xab90…a576backed Team Lynx52c242.67$126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$116.836352.4%33 W · 30 L-2.9wins-0.05per pick57cpaid-15.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0bff…c8a8backed Rune Eaters59c211.3$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1251643.8%7 W · 9 L-0.9wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-7.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2db3…667abacked Rune Eaters48c206.61$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001844.4%8 W · 10 L-2.0wins-0.11per pick55cpaid-15.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x61fa…7f62backed Team Lynx49c205.64$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.6446451.5%239 W · 225 L-12.1wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x64a8…7bc3backed Team Lynx49c200$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10214661%89 W · 57 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick59cpaid-3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5cee…dfadbacked Rune Eaters52c197.51$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1022055%11 W · 9 L-0.6wins-0.03per pick58cpaid-8.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x9512…a3d7backed Team Lynx56c178.66$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.661729.4%5 W · 12 L-3.6wins-0.21per pick51cpaid-42%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x765f…4dc4backed Team Lynx40c173.29$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.65650%3 W · 3 L+0.2wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb13d…7287backed Rune Eaters58c172.93$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100250%1 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.18per pick68cpaid-35.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3ac8…45c4backed Rune Eaters59c168.12$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001060%6 W · 4 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick58cpaid-0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xea9a…ac7dbacked Team Lynx58c167.24$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.241100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.42per pick58cpaid+72.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Rune Eaters45c159.99$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7260542.6%258 W · 347 L-14.6wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-7.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf59f…b2cfbacked Rune Eaters63c158.55$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10040%0 W · 4 L-1.3wins-0.34per pick34cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xcdad…9eaebacked Team Lynx53c150$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.53351.5%17 W · 16 L+2.3wins+0.07per pick44cpaid+10%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1242…9077backed Team Lynx70c150$105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$452661.5%16 W · 10 L+3.8wins+0.15per pick47cpaid+51.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Rune Eaters46c147.48$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.841,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1a8d…ab7ebacked Rune Eaters43c136.39$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.658844.3%39 W · 49 L-3.1wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-13%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf6c8…a184backed Team Lynx20c129.89$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.5436044.2%159 W · 201 L+7.4wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1019…244abacked Team Lynx8c125$10 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1151346.2%6 W · 7 L-0.8wins-0.06per pick52cpaid+57.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x29a5…65c5backed Rune Eaters61c116.93$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.886560%39 W · 26 L-0.2wins0.00per pick60cpaid-4.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9688…fd45backed Rune Eaters66c115$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75.924138.6%93 W · 148 L-18.0wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-19.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7002…395cbacked Team Lynx57c109.21$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.963063.3%19 W · 11 L+2.7wins+0.09per pick54cpaid+15.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xced8…221ebacked Team Lynx55c105.91$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.3722845.6%104 W · 124 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-6.7%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xc869…bc8dbacked Team Lynx57c100$57 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4337441.2%154 W · 220 L-17.2wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-19.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0c20…76bbbacked Rune Eaters80c100$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8010%0 W · 1 L-0.8wins-0.80per pick80cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5de7…5417backed Team Lynx50c97.36$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.6847951.8%248 W · 231 L+17.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+6.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x891f…88bfbacked Team Lynx75c95.4$72 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.81968.4%13 W · 6 L+0.9wins+0.05per pick64cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x54e0…b02cbacked Rune Eaters65c95.26$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.9240534.6%140 W · 265 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-17.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8847…fc98backed Rune Eaters65c91$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.155139.2%20 W · 31 L-5.8wins-0.11per pick51cpaid-30.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x85b2…0ab9backed Team Lynx50c90.64$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.327753.2%41 W · 36 L+5.3wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+14.8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbf69…4fa2backed Rune Eaters39c90$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.153634%182 W · 354 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf2ae…0864backed Team Lynx58c89.76$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.3526661.7%164 W · 102 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick60cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1f59…3a50backed Team Lynx56c89.4$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.47261.1%44 W · 28 L+2.0wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe63d…0545backed Rune Eaters60c87.21$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.291030%3 W · 7 L-1.5wins-0.15per pick45cpaid-32.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x893d…d65bbacked Rune Eaters46c86.96$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$401747.1%8 W · 9 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-11.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbe6d…9d6abacked Team Lynx48c82.9$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.114065%26 W · 14 L+3.1wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+14.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2b7f…6e16backed Team Lynx38c81.55$31 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.562114.3%3 W · 18 L-5.4wins-0.26per pick40cpaid-59%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick
0xf02f…1ed8backed Rune Eaters45c80$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3618739%73 W · 114 L-9.5wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-18.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd752…7b4fbacked Team Lynx64c79.14$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.4935461.3%217 W · 137 L+0.6wins0.00per pick61cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x69e4…9bacbacked Rune Eaters66c78.03$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.57853.8%42 W · 36 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+5.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x155b…d7babacked Team Lynx29c73.67$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.414962.4%93 W · 56 L+21.8wins+0.15per pick48cpaid+24.1%equal weight64+0.13 edge/pick
0x0fde…0258backed Rune Eaters51c69.39$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.3926050.4%131 W · 129 L+6.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb64c…393dbacked Team Lynx56c62.95$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.9529350.2%147 W · 146 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0c99…8e7ebacked Rune Eaters56c58.44$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.7333854.1%183 W · 155 L+11.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+8.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x69b7…ae1dbacked Team Lynx45c58.08$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.977471.6%53 W · 21 L+3.8wins+0.05per pick66cpaid+7.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9637…cefdbacked Rune Eaters60c50$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$301877.8%14 W · 4 L+1.6wins+0.09per pick69cpaid+13.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x00f7…4476backed Rune Eaters32c49.98$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.994738.3%18 W · 29 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7e3e…a78abacked Rune Eaters41c49.3$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2041244.7%184 W · 228 L-10.3wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-8.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xef0d…ef1cbacked Rune Eaters46c48.75$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.4322740.5%92 W · 135 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-3.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xee59…e42abacked Rune Eaters52c46$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.9228846.9%135 W · 153 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+2.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x6326…6329backed Team Lynx55c45.45$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.4515545.2%70 W · 85 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+6.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf829…5ee1backed Team Lynx58c42.05$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.66366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.05per pick62cpaid+7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3123…b44dbacked Team Lynx57c40$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.212568%85 W · 40 L+12.7wins+0.10per pick58cpaid+13.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x81fe…4089backed Rune Eaters62c39.31$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.3713262.9%83 W · 49 L+3.6wins+0.03per pick60cpaid+5.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7e11…2f0dbacked Team Lynx64c38.91$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.911100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.36per pick64cpaid+55.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x4e64…a243backed Team Lynx55c36.36$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.367757.1%44 W · 33 L+6.3wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+12.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe36b…64f4backed Rune Eaters55c36.36$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2020%0 W · 2 L-1.1wins-0.57per pick57cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x37c1…8de1backed Team Lynx50c36.24$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.1841037.3%153 W · 257 L-7.8wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-9.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd49d…f05cbacked Team Lynx36c35.42$13 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.672161.9%13 W · 8 L+3.3wins+0.16per pick46cpaid+45.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0dd8…487ebacked Team Lynx53c33.96$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15.961100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.47per pick53cpaid+88.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x490a…3b39backed Team Lynx56c33.73$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.84333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.12per pick45cpaid-40.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x10b9…0a9bbacked Team Lynx64c33.48$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12.0510156.4%57 W · 44 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x92c8…547fbacked Team Lynx55c33$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.72100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+96.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8afa…28f0backed Rune Eaters38c32$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.1625349.4%125 W · 128 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x997b…641bbacked Rune Eaters65c30.77$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209853.1%52 W · 46 L-0.4wins0.00per pick54cpaid-10.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x51eb…6bfabacked Team Lynx67c30.07$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10.0710766.4%71 W · 36 L+5.1wins+0.05per pick62cpaid+7.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf3c8…e340backed Team Lynx61c29.96$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.6724527.3%67 W · 178 L-12.9wins-0.05per pick33cpaid-33.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x29f8…ffa9backed Rune Eaters55c29.62$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.2915033.3%50 W · 100 L-10.4wins-0.07per pick40cpaid-16.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x974f…cd80backed Team Lynx62c26.9$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10.1155147.5%262 W · 289 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe49b…8973backed Rune Eaters56c26.79$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15450%2 W · 2 L0.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-10.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1620…227bbacked Rune Eaters66c25.68$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.9513762.8%86 W · 51 L-4.4wins-0.03per pick66cpaid-5.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7560…1ee1backed Rune Eaters42c24.74$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.3921133.6%71 W · 140 L-5.7wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-7.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.