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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: 1win vs Vici Gaming - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
1winof 1win, Vici Gaming
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$286,226
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$326,347

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $286,226 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 208 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xe16d…5e30backed 1win65c58,221$38,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,220.561,21057.1%691 W · 519 L+44.5wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+4.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Vici Gaming26c25,430$6,637 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,636.5771143%306 W · 405 L-3.9wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-14.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9166…b479backed Vici Gaming35c15,024$5,192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,191.9712348%59 W · 64 L-4.6wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x258c…7c23backed Vici Gaming35c14,075$4,886 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,886.223943.6%17 W · 22 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-10.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf3ce…a57abacked 1win70c13,751$9,621 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,129.911,20259.3%713 W · 489 L+64.6wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+10.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x57b4…b46bbacked 1win69c10,133$7,039 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,093.6724246.7%113 W · 129 L-4.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x60d0…e05fbacked Vici Gaming27c9,873$2,666 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,665.7641242.2%174 W · 238 L-0.4wins0.00per pick42cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Vici Gaming28c9,272$2,565 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,564.661,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf991…3965backed Vici Gaming35c8,138$2,816 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,815.9431248.4%151 W · 161 L+6.4wins+0.02per pick46cpaid0%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2391…554fbacked Vici Gaming23c6,490$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50012141.3%50 W · 71 L-4.4wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5a56…10f5backed 1win69c5,833$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,833.1918950.8%96 W · 93 L+10.9wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+7.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked Vici Gaming34c5,486$1,881 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,880.895342.2%402 W · 551 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked 1win70c4,750$3,325 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,42580256%449 W · 353 L+22.9wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7a85…ff94backed Vici Gaming21c4,694$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00029352.9%155 W · 138 L+8.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid-3.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3a01…c89ebacked 1win73c4,643$3,394 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,249.0828251.8%146 W · 136 L+5.4wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-11.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93bd…bbc5backed 1win75c4,497$3,363 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,134.6553764.4%346 W · 191 L+26.5wins+0.05per pick60cpaid+2.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x80ba…2e78backed Vici Gaming34c4,475$1,521 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,521.4988539.7%351 W · 534 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked Vici Gaming25c4,328$1,088 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,087.9889749.6%445 W · 452 L+22.4wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x568d…87d0backed Vici Gaming35c4,300$1,505 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50510537.1%39 W · 66 L-6.6wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-24%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf1ef…8cd6backed 1win64c4,000$2,560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,4402867.9%19 W · 9 L+4.2wins+0.15per pick53cpaid+36.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xfcdc…4281backed Vici Gaming33c3,875$1,272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,271.831764.7%11 W · 6 L+2.6wins+0.15per pick49cpaid+29.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed Vici Gaming30c3,604$1,077 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,076.5968649.7%341 W · 345 L+9.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7d8a…f907backed Vici Gaming29c3,260$956 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$956.1714136.9%52 W · 89 L-13.3wins-0.09per pick46cpaid-27.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x47e8…efdcbacked 1win72c3,204$2,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$903.9219456.2%109 W · 85 L+13.1wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+5.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x782f…b46abacked Vici Gaming19c3,174$603 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$603.065750.9%29 W · 28 L+3.5wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+5.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5038…6236backed Vici Gaming33c3,127$1,017 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,017.2426540.8%108 W · 157 L-13.3wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-16.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd3bc…5bd2backed 1win73c3,120$2,264 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$856.6413943.9%61 W · 78 L-11.8wins-0.08per pick52cpaid-17.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x4652…6343backed 1win73c3,046$2,236 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$809.723938.5%15 W · 24 L-1.5wins-0.04per pick42cpaid+7.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5d5a…4289backed 1win66c3,025$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,025.2130357.1%173 W · 130 L+12.9wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+6.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfa88…85a5backed Vici Gaming34c3,000$1,020 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,02069644.5%310 W · 386 L-3.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4214…db99backed Vici Gaming36c2,900$1,044 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,04436343.3%157 W · 206 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x880d…39bcbacked 1win75c2,750$2,050 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70032756.9%186 W · 141 L+8.9wins+0.03per pick54cpaid-0.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2931…7b81backed 1win73c2,740$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$739.9318660.8%113 W · 73 L+12.5wins+0.07per pick54cpaid-1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x08cf…22b9backed 1win69c2,687$1,853 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$834.2753758.8%316 W · 221 L+0.2wins0.00per pick59cpaid-4.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x04f6…f24abacked 1win69c2,591$1,778 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$812.8450347.1%237 W · 266 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2929…1dd0backed 1win79c2,526$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$525.9216553.3%88 W · 77 L+7.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+0.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5d34…7c8cbacked Vici Gaming33c2,500$825 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82514515.2%22 W · 123 L-16.5wins-0.11per pick27cpaid-50.6%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x1943…1561backed Vici Gaming28c2,159$613 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$612.7745352.1%236 W · 217 L+13.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-8.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xde24…4dedbacked 1win74c2,152$1,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$551.6219853%105 W · 93 L+6.1wins+0.03per pick50cpaid0%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked Vici Gaming34c2,142$720 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72048539.2%190 W · 295 L-8.4wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x73f4…158ebacked Vici Gaming18c1,971$355 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$354.7923561.7%145 W · 90 L+19.9wins+0.08per pick53cpaid+13%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x8a38…fee0backed Vici Gaming34c1,846$628 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$627.5160349.9%301 W · 302 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Vici Gaming34c1,750$595 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59581029.4%238 W · 572 L-23.5wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-10.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4a77…e59dbacked Vici Gaming26c1,572$405 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$404.7522031.8%70 W · 150 L-4.1wins-0.02per pick34cpaid-31.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed Vici Gaming33c1,500$502 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$502.4958744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0c67…d062backed Vici Gaming20c1,499$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3001,13742.3%481 W · 656 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7e01…b0b5backed Vici Gaming30c1,478$439 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$439.1420642.7%88 W · 118 L-4.3wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-11.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x19ae…395cbacked Vici Gaming34c1,474$501 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50131936.7%117 W · 202 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0ee5…e798backed Vici Gaming36c1,456$522 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52272035.1%253 W · 467 L-24.8wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-19.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5952…8a5ebacked Vici Gaming29c1,450$421 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$420.59643.8%42 W · 54 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-4.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbbd9…de31backed 1win69c1,449$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$449.2814258.5%83 W · 59 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5357…3a0dbacked 1win69c1,448$999 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$448.832035%7 W · 13 L-2.7wins-0.13per pick48cpaid-37.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd039…ba3bbacked Vici Gaming29c1,400$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4063844.7%17 W · 21 L-1.5wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed 1win72c1,320$951 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$369.691,03647.2%489 W · 547 L+15.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xbb35…b62abacked Vici Gaming30c1,302$391 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$390.6239343.3%170 W · 223 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-11.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc86f…e603backed Vici Gaming31c1,244$387 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387.14955.6%5 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick58cpaid+6.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa2c3…8b21backed 1win68c1,143$774 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$369.464065%26 W · 14 L+3.9wins+0.10per pick55cpaid+14.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xcd66…664fbacked Vici Gaming35c1,094$383 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$382.8913960.4%84 W · 55 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick61cpaid-3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84df…08b7backed Vici Gaming29c1,034$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30010%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.29per pick29cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x149a…49d0backed 1win80c1,000$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20050769.2%351 W · 156 L+33.7wins+0.07per pick63cpaid+10.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed Vici Gaming12c1,000$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11863032.5%205 W · 425 L+1.4wins0.00per pick32cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1e89…af95backed Vici Gaming31c1,000$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31014943.6%65 W · 84 L-5.8wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-9.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe361…ae44backed 1win70c1,000$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30031547.6%150 W · 165 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x48f7…3aebbacked Vici Gaming31c999.99$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31066848.5%324 W · 344 L-11.5wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-7.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed Vici Gaming34c999.96$340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$339.9965441.9%274 W · 380 L-1.3wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd93b…cd48backed Vici Gaming34c983.98$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$332.639644.8%43 W · 53 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7951…bb41backed Vici Gaming34c975$332 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$331.564744.4%287 W · 360 L+13.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf148…0b4fbacked 1win67c895.52$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$295.5216641%68 W · 98 L-10.8wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-17.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xab12…764ebacked 1win67c894.88$602 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$293.3127060%162 W · 108 L-11.3wins-0.04per pick64cpaid-7.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xea58…0308backed Vici Gaming33c892$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$290.033641.7%15 W · 21 L-1.3wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-12.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x57f1…5ecfbacked Vici Gaming34c790$269 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$268.66642.4%28 W · 38 L-3.0wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked Vici Gaming30c777$233 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$232.7250749.7%252 W · 255 L+15.3wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x28f8…f047backed Vici Gaming29c689.66$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200825%2 W · 6 L-1.5wins-0.19per pick44cpaid-57%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed 1win69c673.96$464 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$210.245750.8%232 W · 225 L+14.3wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed 1win77c672.33$518 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.6479959.4%475 W · 324 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick59cpaid-2.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x3e3b…be27backed 1win70c640$449 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$190.621047.6%100 W · 110 L+10.4wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+0.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1365…c82abacked 1win72c631.44$455 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$176.861456%344 W · 270 L+13.5wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x36d9…c3cabacked 1win68c623.65$422 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$201.7344149.4%218 W · 223 L+12.3wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-3.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xcf3a…fbfdbacked 1win66c575.46$380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$195.6650850.8%258 W · 250 L+8.8wins+0.02per pick49cpaid-5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3ee4…a02abacked 1win65c550$358 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$192.513658.1%79 W · 57 L+3.3wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+0.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb3c7…bf04backed 1win65c528.97$344 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$185.1415051.3%77 W · 73 L-5.0wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-12.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc13b…87bdbacked Vici Gaming36c523.42$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.434736.2%17 W · 30 L-2.3wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-16.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3167…32a2backed 1win77c519.48$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$119.4812151.2%62 W · 59 L+6.5wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+3.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xc444…416cbacked 1win66c501.52$331 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$170.5217550.9%89 W · 86 L-3.1wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed Vici Gaming35c500$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17556852.5%298 W · 270 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9aff…b136backed Vici Gaming29c500$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14532445.1%146 W · 178 L+14.7wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf7d6…cab5backed 1win68c499.99$340 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16051364.9%333 W · 180 L+16.4wins+0.03per pick62cpaid+0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd19e…d70ebacked 1win74c450.16$333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$117.1620859.6%124 W · 84 L+9.0wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+10.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xed10…15edbacked 1win65c416.05$270 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$145.6288166.7%588 W · 293 L+76.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+12.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Vici Gaming24c412.83$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.082,37847.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L+15.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0f38…a0edbacked 1win68c400$272 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1284445.5%20 W · 24 L-3.2wins-0.07per pick53cpaid-19.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe559…b262backed Vici Gaming34c399.99$136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1367635.5%27 W · 49 L-6.2wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-27.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x8031…67e0backed Vici Gaming33c398.81$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$131.6173743.6%321 W · 416 L-10.8wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6b23…04a3backed 1win70c395.69$279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$116.9891553.3%488 W · 427 L+48.0wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+5.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x1f49…066dbacked Vici Gaming30c387$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$116.11625%4 W · 12 L-2.3wins-0.15per pick40cpaid-39.8%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xdb55…51ddbacked 1win71c379.57$269 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.8535960.4%217 W · 142 L-1.3wins0.00per pick61cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbf86…3e17backed 1win67c366.72$245 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$122.27957%45 W · 34 L+5.4wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+6.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x4884…1310backed 1win69c362.94$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$112.5111446.5%53 W · 61 L-4.8wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-17%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x180c…cd04backed Vici Gaming20c350$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7043738.4%168 W · 269 L-1.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-8.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3452…1ba0backed 1win66c346.17$228 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$117.718351.9%95 W · 88 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-8.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.