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NHL · resolved market

Sabres vs. Maple Leafs

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Maple Leafsof Sabres, Maple Leafs
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$236,330
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$244,614

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $236,330 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 153 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xaa07…2125backed Sabres41c21,623$8,940 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,940.431,07049.9%534 W · 536 L+22.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Maple Leafs60c20,000$12,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,00042552.2%222 W · 203 L+25.0wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x83b9…6124backed Maple Leafs56c16,846$9,515 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,331.6730848.4%149 W · 159 L-8.9wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-5.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb083…b3f0backed Sabres42c15,003$6,301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,301.0331546.3%146 W · 169 L-7.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-9.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc29a…7816backed Sabres45c14,027$6,310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,310.38240.2%33 W · 49 L-5.9wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Sabres44c13,054$5,741 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,740.861,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Maple Leafs59c11,314$6,656 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,658.2558841.8%246 W · 342 L-20.6wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-16.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x900c…1d7abacked Maple Leafs57c9,917$5,633 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,284.241246.4%191 W · 221 L-24.5wins-0.06per pick52cpaid-12.1%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xade8…b0bdbacked Maple Leafs59c9,000$5,310 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,6907149.3%35 W · 36 L+3.4wins+0.05per pick45cpaid-2.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xee00…cea1backed Sabres40c8,558$3,423 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,423.3144848.9%219 W · 229 L+12.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc350…3669backed Maple Leafs57c8,098$4,603 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,495.6830944.7%138 W · 171 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x821d…0a01backed Sabres43c7,985$3,434 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,433.6221652.3%113 W · 103 L+12.8wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+11.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x42b5…b5b6backed Sabres40c7,550$3,040 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0401,37749.1%676 W · 701 L+39.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf641…7b6fbacked Sabres42c7,402$3,123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,123.4852172.6%378 W · 143 L+36.7wins+0.07per pick66cpaid+9.9%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xa315…cabbbacked Maple Leafs56c6,062$3,398 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,664.1632251.9%167 W · 155 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Sabres44c5,951$2,638 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,638.461,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2129…4222backed Sabres48c5,604$2,695 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,694.8740550.9%206 W · 199 L+8.5wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcc30…c8a5backed Maple Leafs57c5,255$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,254.682657.7%15 W · 11 L+4.4wins+0.17per pick41cpaid+66%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xa9d1…4660backed Sabres3c5,050$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13229412.9%38 W · 256 L+5.3wins+0.02per pick11cpaid+45.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7d5c…0182backed Maple Leafs57c3,825$2,180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,644.6728353%150 W · 133 L+16.6wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+14.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x64b5…7543backed Sabres43c3,693$1,588 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,588.0214253.5%76 W · 66 L+9.9wins+0.07per pick47cpaid+15.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5adf…a5e7backed Maple Leafs59c3,553$2,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,472.7363249.5%313 W · 319 L+2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcb43…3c74backed Sabres43c3,500$1,505 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50530447.4%144 W · 160 L-5.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8511…4a6bbacked Maple Leafs56c2,260$1,266 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$994.420147.8%96 W · 105 L-5.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4a1e…86d3backed Maple Leafs59c2,239$1,321 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$918.0810448.1%50 W · 54 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbfdf…8e02backed Maple Leafs59c2,000$1,180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$82034845.4%158 W · 190 L-3.9wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd04d…d0e5backed Maple Leafs60c2,000$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$80097651.6%504 W · 472 L-3.9wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb123…0a15backed Maple Leafs59c2,000$1,180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8206443.8%28 W · 36 L-3.5wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-15%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9c09…c9b4backed Maple Leafs56c2,000$1,130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8703557.1%20 W · 15 L+2.3wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+12%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x97e0…8194backed Maple Leafs56c2,000$1,120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88030552.5%160 W · 145 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Maple Leafs57c1,917$1,090 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$826.9857453.8%309 W · 265 L+12.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x08a4…5c3fbacked Maple Leafs55c1,804$992 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$811.8530551.5%157 W · 148 L+10.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+4.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Maple Leafs56c1,786$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$785.7175251.7%389 W · 363 L-2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Sabres44c1,557$678 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$677.7795049.1%466 W · 484 L+12.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2586…c893backed Sabres42c1,529$640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$639.683652.8%441 W · 395 L+28.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9534…1fe8backed Maple Leafs58c1,500$870 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63022852.6%120 W · 108 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa71a…e4e2backed Maple Leafs51c1,478$750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$728.081838.9%7 W · 11 L-2.4wins-0.13per pick52cpaid-25.7%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4231…f63ebacked Maple Leafs56c1,439$808 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$630.5237847.4%179 W · 199 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-1.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Maple Leafs57c1,414$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$613.72,89451.3%1,484 W · 1,410 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Sabres60c1,391$829 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$829.341,40647%661 W · 745 L+58.6wins+0.04per pick43cpaid-0.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf699…07e1backed Sabres47c1,287$599 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$599.0685464.2%548 W · 306 L+64.5wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+18.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb023…f142backed Sabres44c1,200$528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5286543.1%28 W · 37 L-3.2wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-10.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Sabres42c1,041$440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$440.053,70450.5%1,871 W · 1,833 L+105.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb52d…95ffbacked Maple Leafs59c1,017$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$416.955141.2%21 W · 30 L-7.0wins-0.14per pick55cpaid-26.7%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Sabres46c1,009$462 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$462.241,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4fc1…ec92backed Maple Leafs56c999.99$560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44054349.5%269 W · 274 L+2.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xad18…0b4fbacked Maple Leafs56c888.45$495 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$393.4141340%165 W · 248 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6f40…bd86backed Maple Leafs58c844$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$354.487152.1%37 W · 34 L+2.6wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+7.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x14e3…ce1fbacked Sabres44c843$371 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$370.9213655.1%75 W · 61 L+4.2wins+0.03per pick52cpaid-0.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5c57…5b16backed Maple Leafs56c750$420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3301,47548.3%712 W · 763 L+2.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Maple Leafs57c730.27$418 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$311.9662249.4%307 W · 315 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3450…6793backed Sabres42c714.29$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3006833.8%23 W · 45 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-19.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6c92…cc95backed Maple Leafs58c682.4$396 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$286.611100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.42per pick58cpaid+72.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc3ec…e987backed Sabres36c643.4$232 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$231.6224347.7%116 W · 127 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe1e0…a98fbacked Sabres45c625$281 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$281.251060%6 W · 4 L+1.3wins+0.13per pick47cpaid+30.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x68c1…a55abacked Maple Leafs56c625$350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$275742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.7wins-0.10per pick53cpaid-18.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbed0…3c7dbacked Maple Leafs56c542.5$305 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$237.8145149.4%223 W · 228 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Sabres49c534.46$262 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$262.351,35452.6%712 W · 642 L+46.2wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa5e3…4d7ebacked Maple Leafs58c501.72$291 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$210.729251.1%47 W · 45 L+3.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+4.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe6fb…ee11backed Maple Leafs58c500$290 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2106648.5%32 W · 34 L-2.5wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-1.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0ef4…4e4ebacked Sabres50c500$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249.759949.5%49 W · 50 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-7.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3dd4…1b50backed Sabres43c477$205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205.111,07954.3%586 W · 493 L+4.6wins0.00per pick54cpaid+1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9e4e…437cbacked Maple Leafs59c423.75$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$173.742100%2 W · 0 L+0.8wins+0.39per pick61cpaid+65.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8097…8a5fbacked Maple Leafs55c400$220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1806431.3%20 W · 44 L-11.1wins-0.17per pick49cpaid-39%equal weight36-0.12 edge/pick
0x1208…1feabacked Sabres44c400$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1764045%18 W · 22 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3a7a…15a4backed Sabres44c382.78$168 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$168.4223047.4%109 W · 121 L-7.5wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x460a…d738backed Maple Leafs56c357.14$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$157.1423653.8%127 W · 109 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xbfe4…5c4fbacked Maple Leafs58c356$206 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$149.524949%24 W · 25 L+0.2wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa1d7…a70cbacked Maple Leafs57c351.34$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.3430946.3%143 W · 166 L-7.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-8.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5b20…99e9backed Maple Leafs60c316.67$190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$126.671,09351.8%566 W · 527 L+14.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d01…0ab1backed Sabres42c300$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12675946.6%354 W · 405 L-3.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Sabres57c281.45$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$160.4389636.9%331 W · 565 L-30.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-26.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa333…292bbacked Maple Leafs57c263.16$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.16250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-12.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8d28…932abacked Maple Leafs58c260$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.218750.3%94 W · 93 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa581…45b2backed Maple Leafs59c250$147 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.313158.8%77 W · 54 L+8.6wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+8.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x4a7f…4cd8backed Maple Leafs57c245.61$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.612454.2%13 W · 11 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x864a…7cacbacked Maple Leafs57c242.39$138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.7219851.5%102 W · 96 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0111…0463backed Sabres42c238.1$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10023140.3%93 W · 138 L-6.2wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-8.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4472…a648backed Maple Leafs59c237.29$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.295653.6%30 W · 26 L+1.4wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x56f6…9f57backed Maple Leafs46c230$107 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$123.2433848.8%165 W · 173 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8cfa…faa4backed Sabres45c222.22$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1008846.6%41 W · 47 L-4.4wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-13.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf092…4ebabacked Maple Leafs56c209.08$116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$92.59683.3%5 W · 1 L+1.8wins+0.31per pick53cpaid+62.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x4cb9…3783backed Sabres42c200$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.823741.4%98 W · 139 L-14.2wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-11%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcbd7…51fcbacked Maple Leafs56c200$112 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$882638.5%10 W · 16 L-2.3wins-0.09per pick47cpaid-14.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbad2…5296backed Sabres44c200$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8889249.9%445 W · 447 L+10.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x133b…faa8backed Sabres43c200$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$867745.5%35 W · 42 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+8.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xca8f…d963backed Sabres43c200$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8643944.6%196 W · 243 L+16.3wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x6fe9…9c50backed Maple Leafs55c181.82$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81.8212649.2%62 W · 64 L-6.3wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-11.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5916…8d4fbacked Maple Leafs56c178.57$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.573275%24 W · 8 L+6.0wins+0.19per pick56cpaid+35%equal weight62+0.10 edge/pick
0xa3d8…d527backed Maple Leafs57c174$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74.82450%2 W · 2 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+5.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3804…6136backed Sabres41c167.13$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.2929345.1%132 W · 161 L-8.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Sabres46c165$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75.6613251.5%68 W · 64 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x742f…d673backed Maple Leafs67c160$106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.5642144.4%187 W · 234 L-28.0wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-17%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x9999…9868backed Sabres46c141.3$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$653357.6%19 W · 14 L+1.3wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+9.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc3c0…93fdbacked Maple Leafs55c127.27$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.279045.6%41 W · 49 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0104…530ebacked Maple Leafs56c126.68$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.04757.1%4 W · 3 L0.0wins+0.01per pick57cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x151f…807dbacked Sabres59c125.11$74 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.815957.6%34 W · 25 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf575…e0ebbacked Sabres45c111.11$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$503253.1%17 W · 15 L+3.2wins+0.10per pick43cpaid+39.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Maple Leafs56c110.68$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.851,63650.4%825 W · 811 L-20.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3f1f…feaebacked Sabres41c108.83$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45.077443.2%32 W · 42 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.