Valorant · resolved market
Valorant: Pcific Esports vs Team Vitality - Map 2 Winner
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What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Team Vitalityof Pcific Esports, Team Vitality
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Valorantevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $46,338
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $54,204
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $46,338 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 78 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Valorant is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Valorant | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x3471…f17ebacked Team Vitality | 62c | 3,850$2,372 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,477.82 | 655 | 59.4%389 W · 266 L | +50.5wins | +0.08per pick | 52cpaid | +6.7%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x82dc…5700backed Pcific Esports | 42c | 3,759$1,567 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,567.4 | 563 | 57.9%326 W · 237 L | +36.3wins | +0.06per pick | 51cpaid | +1.7%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xec98…afcdbacked Team Vitality | 57c | 3,220$1,832 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,387.6 | 684 | 58.3%399 W · 285 L | +56.5wins | +0.08per pick | 50cpaid | +6.2%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0xb6ce…7a7dbacked Pcific Esports | 42c | 2,048$858 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$858.27 | 533 | 55.3%295 W · 238 L | +24.0wins | +0.05per pick | 51cpaid | -2%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xfe78…0319backed Pcific Esports | 43c | 2,004$854 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$854.45 | 409 | 45.7%187 W · 222 L | -6.5wins | -0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -19.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0103…5ca8backed Team Vitality | 62c | 2,000$1,240 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$760.2 | 3 | 33.3%1 W · 2 L | -0.1wins | -0.02per pick | 36cpaid | -46.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xeebb…0b96backed Pcific Esports | 31c | 1,901$580 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$580 | 149 | 41.6%62 W · 87 L | -6.4wins | -0.04per pick | 46cpaid | -12.8%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xf3ef…ca6bbacked Pcific Esports | 33c | 1,472$489 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$489.25 | 943 | 61.2%577 W · 366 L | +58.2wins | +0.06per pick | 55cpaid | +3%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xe2d0…7bbfbacked Team Vitality | 69c | 1,062$733 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$329.15 | 29 | 48.3%14 W · 15 L | +0.4wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -0.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xcf60…a6f5backed Team Vitality | 70c | 1,000$700 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$300.1 | 521 | 55.5%289 W · 232 L | -11.1wins | -0.02per pick | 58cpaid | -7.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xae3f…defebacked Team Vitality | 66c | 910.37$600 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$310.37 | 31 | 74.2%23 W · 8 L | +4.9wins | +0.16per pick | 58cpaid | +34%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x8e3f…6941backed Pcific Esports | 41c | 869.13$356 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$355.63 | 260 | 51.9%135 W · 125 L | +10.5wins | +0.04per pick | 48cpaid | +8.5%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb75b…e377backed Pcific Esports | 43c | 750$320 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$320 | 113 | 54%61 W · 52 L | +7.4wins | +0.07per pick | 47cpaid | +9.2%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xe907…cff6backed Pcific Esports | 34c | 696.35$236 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$236.02 | 930 | 49.4%459 W · 471 L | -0.8wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -7.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xc44b…4048backed Team Vitality | 55c | 549.16$300 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$249.16 | 30 | 56.7%17 W · 13 L | +4.9wins | +0.16per pick | 40cpaid | +34.9%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0xa3f0…9384backed Pcific Esports | 17c | 527.39$90 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$90 | 14 | 14.3%2 W · 12 L | -4.1wins | -0.29per pick | 43cpaid | -68.9%equal weight | 38-0.10 edge/pick |
| 0xcecf…e84fbacked Pcific Esports | 17c | 458.82$78 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$78 | 17 | 58.8%10 W · 7 L | +1.4wins | +0.08per pick | 51cpaid | +7.1%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xaa0b…2debbacked Team Vitality | 70c | 448.05$315 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$133.05 | 55 | 56.4%31 W · 24 L | +4.5wins | +0.08per pick | 48cpaid | +21.5%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xf1ee…519cbacked Team Vitality | 78c | 310$241 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$68.9 | 1,247 | 49.6%619 W · 628 L | -2.6wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x68c9…aec3backed Pcific Esports | 4c | 286$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.46 | 67 | 34.3%23 W · 44 L | -4.7wins | -0.07per pick | 41cpaid | -25.8%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xe7b8…31e6backed Pcific Esports | 22c | 282.66$63 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$63.12 | 361 | 45.7%165 W · 196 L | +22.8wins | +0.06per pick | 39cpaid | +14.9%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xb5ba…06b3backed Pcific Esports | 48c | 279.69$133 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$133.2 | 70 | 44.3%31 W · 39 L | -2.0wins | -0.03per pick | 47cpaid | -7.8%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa19d…3909backed Pcific Esports | 23c | 260$60 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$59.8 | 173 | 49.7%86 W · 87 L | +0.4wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | +9.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xa9f5…937fbacked Team Vitality | 52c | 228$119 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$109.16 | 1,601 | 37.5%600 W · 1,001 L | -75.0wins | -0.05per pick | 42cpaid | -26.9%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xfdc0…4b85backed Team Vitality | 74c | 219.16$162 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$56.98 | 931 | 48.1%448 W · 483 L | -11.0wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -8.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa3b9…ad06backed Pcific Esports | 40c | 217.18$86 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$86.06 | 72 | 54.2%39 W · 33 L | +2.9wins | +0.04per pick | 50cpaid | +6.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x52b7…0aa1backed Pcific Esports | 22c | 215$47 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$46.55 | 417 | 34.8%145 W · 272 L | +11.0wins | +0.03per pick | 32cpaid | +7.7%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x40e3…5627backed Team Vitality | 79c | 200$158 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$42 | 196 | 56.6%111 W · 85 L | +1.2wins | +0.01per pick | 56cpaid | +2.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf321…0315backed Team Vitality | 54c | 199.98$108 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$91.99 | 10 | 60%6 W · 4 L | +1.0wins | +0.10per pick | 50cpaid | +9.3%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xbf33…0353backed Team Vitality | 79c | 197.38$157 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40.63 | 333 | 46.5%155 W · 178 L | -10.9wins | -0.03per pick | 50cpaid | -12.6%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x5233…eb29backed Team Vitality | 80c | 190.84$153 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$38.17 | 23 | 78.3%18 W · 5 L | +3.5wins | +0.15per pick | 63cpaid | +23.9%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x8849…9a83backed Team Vitality | 63c | 188.89$119 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$69.89 | 214 | 54.2%116 W · 98 L | +0.8wins | 0.00per pick | 54cpaid | +2.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x664a…fc5fbacked Team Vitality | 78c | 180$140 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40.08 | 509 | 44.6%227 W · 282 L | -9.8wins | -0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -18.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0621…dd5dbacked Pcific Esports | 35c | 170.63$60 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$60 | 22 | 40.9%9 W · 13 L | -1.3wins | -0.06per pick | 47cpaid | -8%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf1f2…8c8dbacked Team Vitality | 74c | 170.38$126 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$44.45 | 389 | 50.6%197 W · 192 L | +3.8wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -8.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0d26…f4f8backed Pcific Esports | 11c | 147.31$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16 | 123 | 35.8%44 W · 79 L | +9.0wins | +0.07per pick | 28cpaid | +1.5%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x5011…94b4backed Pcific Esports | 15c | 144.6$22 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$21.69 | 97 | 37.1%36 W · 61 L | -2.0wins | -0.02per pick | 39cpaid | -16%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xff34…694bbacked Pcific Esports | 38c | 138.19$53 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$52.56 | 785 | 62.8%493 W · 292 L | +56.2wins | +0.07per pick | 56cpaid | +7.6%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xcb6b…604ebacked Pcific Esports | 23c | 130$30 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$29.7 | 339 | 47.8%162 W · 177 L | +10.8wins | +0.03per pick | 45cpaid | +11.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x4713…4d21backed Team Vitality | 53c | 122.3$65 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$57.42 | 811 | 34.9%283 W · 528 L | -60.9wins | -0.08per pick | 42cpaid | -34.2%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x5929…4684backed Team Vitality | 52c | 121.81$64 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$58.3 | 1,490 | 46.6%695 W · 795 L | -16.1wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -12%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xedf7…4003backed Pcific Esports | 19c | 120$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.8 | 282 | 41.1%116 W · 166 L | -7.0wins | -0.02per pick | 44cpaid | -10.6%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2e3c…08babacked Team Vitality | 58c | 117.55$68 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$49.39 | 1,309 | 43.8%573 W · 736 L | -44.5wins | -0.03per pick | 47cpaid | -19.2%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x2f4b…69debacked Pcific Esports | 26c | 117.15$30 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$30 | 519 | 48.4%251 W · 268 L | +5.2wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -1.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3865…fcbebacked Pcific Esports | 40c | 115.19$46 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$45.75 | 223 | 52.9%118 W · 105 L | +2.9wins | +0.01per pick | 52cpaid | +2.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5807…74dcbacked Team Vitality | 55c | 114.55$63 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$51.55 | 94 | 55.3%52 W · 42 L | -5.6wins | -0.06per pick | 61cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x9ab3…3044backed Team Vitality | 71c | 111.3$79 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$32.12 | 463 | 47.1%218 W · 245 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | +1.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x85fb…89babacked Pcific Esports | 21c | 109$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.89 | 74 | 43.2%32 W · 42 L | -3.6wins | -0.05per pick | 48cpaid | -17.3%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x2eba…0f3abacked Pcific Esports | 25c | 100$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$24.5 | 197 | 51.8%102 W · 95 L | +4.7wins | +0.02per pick | 49cpaid | +18.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe76d…5a75backed Team Vitality | 77c | 100$77 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$23 | 534 | 42.1%225 W · 309 L | -15.0wins | -0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -6.1%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x1af1…8bd4backed Team Vitality | 77c | 84$65 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.32 | 8 | 62.5%5 W · 3 L | +1.2wins | +0.14per pick | 48cpaid | +36.9%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xc7d0…1f8abacked Team Vitality | 53c | 81$43 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$37.69 | 556 | 37.6%209 W · 347 L | -11.5wins | -0.02per pick | 40cpaid | -23.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5179…4eecbacked Pcific Esports | 26c | 77.69$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 176 | 42.6%75 W · 101 L | -7.1wins | -0.04per pick | 47cpaid | -7.1%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x0ab6…4880backed Pcific Esports | 26c | 77.69$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 205 | 47.8%98 W · 107 L | +5.7wins | +0.03per pick | 45cpaid | +1.6%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xdc41…dd7ebacked Pcific Esports | 18c | 74$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.32 | 281 | 43.4%122 W · 159 L | +8.8wins | +0.03per pick | 40cpaid | +5.2%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xddb6…b9b3backed Pcific Esports | 33c | 74$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$24.52 | 746 | 42.8%319 W · 427 L | -27.7wins | -0.04per pick | 46cpaid | -18.1%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x5f16…284ebacked Team Vitality | 75c | 70$53 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$17.5 | 38 | 65.8%25 W · 13 L | +0.7wins | +0.02per pick | 64cpaid | +2.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x904e…0becbacked Pcific Esports | 37c | 69.99$26 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$26.01 | 1,608 | 45.2%727 W · 881 L | -24.0wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -22.6%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x026b…8804backed Team Vitality | 57c | 68.7$39 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$29.54 | 153 | 58.8%90 W · 63 L | +14.7wins | +0.10per pick | 49cpaid | +16.4%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x2c33…0563backed Pcific Esports | 30c | 68.27$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20.48 | 66 | 43.9%29 W · 37 L | -2.6wins | -0.04per pick | 48cpaid | -13.9%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb445…e4a3backed Team Vitality | 69c | 66.59$46 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20.59 | 38 | 63.2%24 W · 14 L | +0.7wins | +0.02per pick | 61cpaid | +3.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2f9b…df54backed Team Vitality | 60c | 63.75$38 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$25.5 | 60 | 41.7%25 W · 35 L | -1.3wins | -0.02per pick | 44cpaid | -8.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0d2d…7ff5backed Team Vitality | 56c | 63$35 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$27.72 | 443 | 42%186 W · 257 L | -22.6wins | -0.05per pick | 47cpaid | -15.3%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x629d…756cbacked Pcific Esports | 30c | 62$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$18.76 | 777 | 44%342 W · 435 L | -21.3wins | -0.03per pick | 47cpaid | -19%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe8e0…7eecbacked Pcific Esports | 30c | 62$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$18.64 | 571 | 51%291 W · 280 L | +16.2wins | +0.03per pick | 48cpaid | -4.2%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x775d…6bebbacked Pcific Esports | 30c | 62$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$18.64 | 700 | 43.7%306 W · 394 L | -13.7wins | -0.02per pick | 46cpaid | -15.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x1cdd…e595backed Pcific Esports | 37c | 60$22 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.11 | 697 | 22.8%159 W · 538 L | -94.4wins | -0.14per pick | 36cpaid | -54.7%equal weight | 35-0.13 edge/pick |
| 0xa658…f93ebacked Team Vitality | 74c | 54.17$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$14.17 | 273 | 60.1%164 W · 109 L | -10.7wins | -0.04per pick | 64cpaid | -5.9%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xda77…683fbacked Team Vitality | 54c | 40$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.4 | 907 | 33.1%300 W · 607 L | -89.7wins | -0.10per pick | 43cpaid | -40.4%equal weight | 39-0.10 edge/pick |
| 0xe6cd…e027backed Team Vitality | 46c | 40$18 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.6 | 278 | 47.1%131 W · 147 L | +0.7wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | +0.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x0e1b…ecafbacked Team Vitality | 57c | 38.44$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.51 | 689 | 49.5%341 W · 348 L | +15.4wins | +0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -7.5%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xb340…51f8backed Pcific Esports | 29c | 37.85$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11 | 1 | 0%0 W · 1 L | -0.3wins | -0.29per pick | 29cpaid | -100%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbd48…0ea2backed Pcific Esports | 37c | 37.42$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14 | 25 | 52%13 W · 12 L | +1.5wins | +0.06per pick | 46cpaid | +7.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xade6…c465backed Pcific Esports | 38c | 37.01$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.92 | 653 | 47.3%309 W · 344 L | -18.2wins | -0.03per pick | 50cpaid | -15.6%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x51db…f9b3backed Pcific Esports | 34c | 31.23$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.49 | 1,746 | 46.2%806 W · 940 L | -3.2wins | 0.00per pick | 46cpaid | -15.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x21dd…e4f5backed Team Vitality | 71c | 30$21 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.7 | 68 | 54.4%37 W · 31 L | +0.9wins | +0.01per pick | 53cpaid | +2.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa9a9…e7d8backed Team Vitality | 75c | 18$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4.5 | 19 | 68.4%13 W · 6 L | +3.4wins | +0.18per pick | 50cpaid | +46.3%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0xde4f…07c2backed Team Vitality | 65c | 17.97$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$6.29 | 66 | 51.5%34 W · 32 L | -0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 52cpaid | -4.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Valorant and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Valorant: Pcific Esports vs Team Vitality - Map 2 Winnerthis page
- Games Total: O/U 2.5Under won
- Map Handicap: VIT (-1.5) vs Pcific Esports (+1.5)Team Vitality won
- Valorant: Pcific Esports vs Team Vitality (BO3) - VCT EMEA Group AlphaTeam Vitality won
- Valorant: Pcific Esports vs Team Vitality - Map 1 WinnerTeam Vitality won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.