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Ncaa Basketball · resolved market

Long Beach State Beach vs. San Jose State Spartans

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
San Jose State Spartansof Long Beach State Beach, San Jose State Spartans
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Ncaa Basketballevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$135,726
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$143,049

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $135,726 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

All 98 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Ncaa Basketball is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Ncaa Basketball
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xe90b…5da2backed Long Beach State Beach31c17,817$5,541 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,541.1369142.8%296 W · 395 L+4.8wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4c81…fce3backed San Jose State Spartans65c17,335$11,261 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,074.162277.3%17 W · 5 L+2.9wins+0.13per pick64cpaid+18.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed San Jose State Spartans76c13,426$10,187 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,238.62,57947.3%1,221 W · 1,358 L-42.7wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x758f…ff8dbacked Long Beach State Beach0c10,340$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.3410%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8ed7…7cdebacked Long Beach State Beach0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1010%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6650…04febacked Long Beach State Beach0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1010%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe5e5…f175backed Long Beach State Beach0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1010%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed San Jose State Spartans65c7,700$5,005 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,69511662.1%72 W · 44 L-3.3wins-0.03per pick65cpaid-5.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Long Beach State Beach27c7,206$1,936 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,935.931,43647.5%682 W · 754 L-18.2wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x067f…e041backed Long Beach State Beach24c5,000$1,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,20030139.2%118 W · 183 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked San Jose State Spartans42c2,956$1,231 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,724.621,88745.2%853 W · 1,034 L+6.5wins0.00per pick45cpaid-15.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2509…e4dbbacked Long Beach State Beach46c2,606$1,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,199.954146.3%19 W · 22 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-11.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Long Beach State Beach25c2,550$637 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$637.510511.4%12 W · 93 L-5.3wins-0.05per pick17cpaid-51.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd903…bf9dbacked Long Beach State Beach55c2,154$1,179 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,178.623158.9%136 W · 95 L+23.5wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+10.7%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x0432…1660backed Long Beach State Beach48c1,975$939 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$939.333158.1%18 W · 13 L+2.5wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+19.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6f48…218cbacked San Jose State Spartans74c1,974$1,467 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$507.281100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.26per pick74cpaid+34.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x89f3…dfffbacked Long Beach State Beach63c1,927$1,210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,210.131,17325.2%296 W · 877 L-43.0wins-0.04per pick29cpaid-21.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x0f04…4502backed Long Beach State Beach16c1,757$276 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$276.1333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.19per pick14cpaid+79.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4c58…8c00backed Long Beach State Beach34c1,679$563 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$563.45185.6%1 W · 17 L-4.4wins-0.24per pick30cpaid-76%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xd36b…d4d4backed San Jose State Spartans78c1,584$1,234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$350.2650%3 W · 3 L-0.4wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-8.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb077…8fe8backed San Jose State Spartans69c1,545$1,065 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$479.553046.7%14 W · 16 L-2.4wins-0.08per pick55cpaid-16.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x81f5…70afbacked Long Beach State Beach40c1,427$571 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$570.677145.1%32 W · 39 L-2.7wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-13.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Long Beach State Beach35c1,289$450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4504,38240.5%1,775 W · 2,607 L+23.7wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-6.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc684…2228backed San Jose State Spartans38c1,187$445 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$741.6615442.9%66 W · 88 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9dd9…08bdbacked San Jose State Spartans54c1,071$577 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$493.991,95145.1%880 W · 1,071 L-19.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-16.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked San Jose State Spartans67c935.77$631 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$304.65,94649.3%2,932 W · 3,014 L+163.0wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Long Beach State Beach24c923.6$222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$221.661,39144.1%613 W · 778 L-10.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-7.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9fc9…fa88backed San Jose State Spartans51c816$417 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$399.13046.7%14 W · 16 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-4.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xea81…eeaebacked Long Beach State Beach23c800$184 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$183.931,22727.8%341 W · 886 L-0.9wins0.00per pick28cpaid-10.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe216…7448backed San Jose State Spartans52c681.35$354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$327.0523941.4%99 W · 140 L-7.1wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-9.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x38ce…999fbacked San Jose State Spartans14c594.79$83 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$511.72911.1%1 W · 8 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick14cpaid-20.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xde7d…499ebacked San Jose State Spartans9c500$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4554122%9 W · 32 L-2.9wins-0.07per pick29cpaid-31.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0f8e…3082backed San Jose State Spartans45c497.7$224 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$273.963,68442.8%1,576 W · 2,108 L+32.6wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa72e…3db9backed San Jose State Spartans55c450$248 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$202.58643%37 W · 49 L+5.1wins+0.06per pick37cpaid+6.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed San Jose State Spartans54c433.54$234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$199.781,42043.9%623 W · 797 L+8.4wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-18.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Long Beach State Beach24c375$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$904,84852.2%2,532 W · 2,316 L+139.2wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc7f7…2abfbacked Long Beach State Beach25c353.96$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$88.4952928.4%150 W · 379 L-9.2wins-0.02per pick30cpaid-10.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed San Jose State Spartans73c342.74$249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$93.563,90558.8%2,298 W · 1,607 L+165.3wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+4.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Long Beach State Beach27c333$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89.9112853.1%68 W · 60 L+8.2wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+11.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x0679…e5aabacked Long Beach State Beach31c290$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89.92568%17 W · 8 L+1.3wins+0.05per pick63cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5d1e…d5dfbacked Long Beach State Beach35c285.71$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1002227.3%6 W · 16 L-3.9wins-0.18per pick45cpaid-45.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xad18…0b4fbacked San Jose State Spartans44c284$125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$159.0412435.5%44 W · 80 L-4.2wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-13.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x58c8…0300backed San Jose State Spartans64c282.98$182 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$101.0745644.5%203 W · 253 L-16.8wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-19.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1a4c…fca5backed San Jose State Spartans9c205.56$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$187.061100%1 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.91per pick9cpaid+1,011.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5b85…14f8backed Long Beach State Beach40c200$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80520%1 W · 4 L-0.9wins-0.18per pick38cpaid-39.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa6d6…ec92backed San Jose State Spartans14c190$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$162.8666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.4wins+0.24per pick43cpaid+106.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x93f7…e9c4backed Long Beach State Beach27c185.19$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5010%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.27per pick27cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3d5f…7e6fbacked Long Beach State Beach40c175$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69.53455.9%19 W · 15 L+2.7wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+28.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x1c83…6f40backed Long Beach State Beach58c172.41$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10017647.2%83 W · 93 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x58a0…d7cabacked San Jose State Spartans51c170.51$87 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$83.553834.2%13 W · 25 L-1.4wins-0.04per pick38cpaid-10.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf338…4514backed Long Beach State Beach9c155.34$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.3520%0 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.36per pick36cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9549…b936backed Long Beach State Beach41c147.79$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6030%0 W · 3 L-1.2wins-0.39per pick39cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x51ce…43fabacked Long Beach State Beach33c139.14$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45.354318.6%8 W · 35 L-3.2wins-0.07per pick26cpaid-32.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x204e…aa95backed San Jose State Spartans72c139.1$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.11100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.28per pick72cpaid+39.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa00f…8e56backed San Jose State Spartans51c137.75$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.8973549.1%361 W · 374 L-14.6wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-13.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x092c…3175backed San Jose State Spartans79c125.94$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.942100%2 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.22per pick78cpaid+28.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0e88…f3c9backed Long Beach State Beach28c122$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.529729.9%29 W · 68 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick32cpaid-24.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x9de1…f272backed Long Beach State Beach26c115.38$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$307040%28 W · 42 L+0.2wins0.00per pick40cpaid-20.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa4bd…e8a2backed Long Beach State Beach30c115.01$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.241,98564.1%1,273 W · 712 L+144.2wins+0.07per pick57cpaid+7.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x742f…d673backed San Jose State Spartans48c100$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.8744955.2%248 W · 201 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2862…b2ddbacked Long Beach State Beach26c100$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2610939.4%43 W · 66 L-5.2wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-9.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf41a…ea2bbacked San Jose State Spartans74c100$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$262,68748.5%1,303 W · 1,384 L+4.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed San Jose State Spartans73c100$73 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272,55541.6%1,062 W · 1,493 L-15.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-20.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe6d7…b646backed Long Beach State Beach29c100$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$291127.3%3 W · 8 L-0.9wins-0.08per pick36cpaid-29.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1787…c311backed Long Beach State Beach27c97.41$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2623363.9%149 W · 84 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick60cpaid+4.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1d94…9100backed Long Beach State Beach27c96.53$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.922,04832.7%670 W · 1,378 L-16.2wins-0.01per pick34cpaid-9.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfd08…0635backed San Jose State Spartans65c93.99$61 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.57864.1%50 W · 28 L+3.3wins+0.04per pick60cpaid+3.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xea80…7296backed Long Beach State Beach26c89.66$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.08333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.2wins+0.07per pick26cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf7e7…2a85backed San Jose State Spartans75c89.17$67 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.591100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.25per pick75cpaid+33.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf37c…3c74backed Long Beach State Beach33c88.33$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2921830.7%67 W · 151 L-10.6wins-0.05per pick36cpaid-13.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf102…1348backed Long Beach State Beach24c83$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.9265825.7%169 W · 489 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick26cpaid-10.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4862…1a17backed Long Beach State Beach66c81.82$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$541833.3%6 W · 12 L-1.5wins-0.09per pick42cpaid-33.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7ff9…e494backed Long Beach State Beach38c80.84$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.72560%3 W · 2 L+1.3wins+0.25per pick35cpaid+88.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9b00…2e48backed San Jose State Spartans68c73.53$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.532100%2 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.29per pick71cpaid+41.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc54f…dce8backed Long Beach State Beach22c73.01$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.8164322.9%147 W · 496 L-17.1wins-0.03per pick26cpaid-27.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x24ac…f6b4backed San Jose State Spartans74c69.59$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.89450%2 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.06per pick56cpaid-20.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8105…955abacked Long Beach State Beach31c64.52$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20250%1 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.18per pick32cpaid+51.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe6cd…e027backed Long Beach State Beach40c60.19$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.0811542.6%49 W · 66 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x11c1…8de9backed San Jose State Spartans76c59.51$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.513100%3 W · 0 L+0.7wins+0.24per pick76cpaid+31.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5504…665dbacked Long Beach State Beach25c56.32$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.0810%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.25per pick25cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3317…04adbacked San Jose State Spartans75c49.33$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12.331100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.25per pick75cpaid+33.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x84f7…ade1backed San Jose State Spartans52c48$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.041,07447%505 W · 569 L+1.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked San Jose State Spartans73c47.05$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12.712,42249.8%6,191 W · 6,231 L+118.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1d0a…63d4backed San Jose State Spartans75c46.67$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.67250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.09per pick59cpaid-33.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb8ab…f5c1backed San Jose State Spartans54c45.61$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.981764.7%11 W · 6 L+2.1wins+0.12per pick53cpaid+21.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x4860…91d2backed San Jose State Spartans75c45.33$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.331100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.25per pick75cpaid+33.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb824…eb41backed San Jose State Spartans75c44$33 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$111100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.25per pick75cpaid+33.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1508…4ac4backed Long Beach State Beach53c37.74$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.09per pick59cpaid-24.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84ec…daabbacked San Jose State Spartans70c34.9$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10.571957.9%11 W · 8 L+1.4wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+10.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3e47…a7abbacked San Jose State Spartans57c32.93$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.161100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.43per pick57cpaid+75.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xeb89…46f1backed San Jose State Spartans75c31.57$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8.055949.2%29 W · 30 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2359…f72bbacked San Jose State Spartans75c26.67$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6.677061.4%43 W · 27 L+4.3wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+13.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9774…6b7bbacked San Jose State Spartans75c26.51$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6.515100%5 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.29per pick71cpaid+41.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xedb5…ce8ebacked San Jose State Spartans79c25.41$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5.414562.2%28 W · 17 L+1.9wins+0.04per pick58cpaid+9.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4b28…02dbbacked San Jose State Spartans76c19.74$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4.743577.1%27 W · 8 L+2.3wins+0.06per pick71cpaid+11.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4a05…0329backed San Jose State Spartans60c18$11 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.122630.8%8 W · 18 L-2.6wins-0.10per pick41cpaid-33.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xfcad…0a68backed San Jose State Spartans75c14.19$11 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3.551855.6%10 W · 8 L+1.9wins+0.11per pick45cpaid+1.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf4b5…6a22backed San Jose State Spartans76c13.51$10 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3.242055%11 W · 9 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Ncaa Basketball and say nothing about this market.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.