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Tennis · resolved market

Qatar Open: Marton Fucsovics vs Karen Khachanov

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Khachanovof Fucsovics, Khachanov
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Tennisevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$213,488
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$240,385

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $213,488 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 175 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Tennis is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Tennis
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x23c8…f8bcbacked Fucsovics27c19,130$5,094 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,093.686026.7%16 W · 44 L-7.6wins-0.13per pick39cpaid-38.4%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Khachanov64c11,953$7,597 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,356.322,86544.3%1,269 W · 1,596 L+6.0wins0.00per pick44cpaid-20.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcf6c…7e66backed Fucsovics34c10,609$3,607 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,607.061,20649%591 W · 615 L+11.3wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd37a…2358backed Khachanov68c7,972$5,458 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,513.761,98046.2%915 W · 1,065 L-1.4wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Khachanov71c7,282$5,185 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,096.671,41038.4%542 W · 868 L-13.4wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-25%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Fucsovics22c6,087$1,343 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,343.242,48945.2%1,126 W · 1,363 L-27.4wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-21.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9dea…3792backed Khachanov69c4,788$3,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,487.9136968%251 W · 118 L-1.1wins0.00per pick68cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5d5c…4302backed Fucsovics34c4,352$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5004645.7%21 W · 25 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid+0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Fucsovics39c4,083$1,592 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,592.1811,66643.4%5,059 W · 6,607 L+22.2wins0.00per pick43cpaid-20%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xada5…db70backed Fucsovics32c3,885$1,236 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,236.0538133.9%129 W · 252 L-3.8wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x07dd…0876backed Fucsovics31c3,606$1,118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,117.864332.6%14 W · 29 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick32cpaid-14%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x20c1…df04backed Fucsovics35c3,402$1,175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,174.8818439.1%72 W · 112 L-6.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-9.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Khachanov56c2,999$1,690 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,308.614,47451.7%2,311 W · 2,163 L+133.7wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+0.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4173…d3edbacked Fucsovics34c2,955$1,001 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,000.7755646.4%258 W · 298 L+4.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked Khachanov67c2,647$1,782 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$865.2165959%389 W · 270 L-31.9wins-0.05per pick64cpaid-11.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x33c9…6f9abacked Khachanov68c2,560$1,741 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$819.294355.7%525 W · 418 L+22.8wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+0.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb077…8fe8backed Khachanov68c2,206$1,499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$706.3821147.9%101 W · 110 L-16.5wins-0.08per pick56cpaid-13.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Fucsovics13c2,110$276 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$275.86,79236.9%2,505 W · 4,287 L-98.2wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-20.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7ca1…aea0backed Fucsovics32c2,000$640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6401,16137.6%437 W · 724 L-27.8wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-7.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2755…fef0backed Khachanov74c1,895$1,402 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.6822634.5%78 W · 148 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-10.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xed19…83babacked Khachanov65c1,768$1,151 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$617.4284736%305 W · 542 L-35.7wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-26.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Khachanov71c1,762$1,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$511.962,42647.3%1,148 W · 1,278 L+45.2wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-13.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x972b…78babacked Fucsovics22c1,552$341 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$341.432,98239.1%1,167 W · 1,815 L-109.1wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-30.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Khachanov60c1,527$920 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$607.138,24145.5%3,746 W · 4,495 L+166.2wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-16.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Khachanov67c1,500$1,001 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$498.792,74630.8%846 W · 1,900 L-67.1wins-0.02per pick33cpaid-36.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe671…a682backed Fucsovics31c1,500$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46057645.5%262 W · 314 L+4.9wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7972…594fbacked Khachanov62c1,479$915 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$564.0613260.6%80 W · 52 L-3.9wins-0.03per pick64cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe5c1…7487backed Fucsovics34c1,471$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5007630.3%23 W · 53 L+0.2wins0.00per pick30cpaid+10.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x795f…fbdabacked Fucsovics40c1,252$501 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$500.6711417.5%20 W · 94 L-8.4wins-0.07per pick25cpaid-25.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Fucsovics26c1,247$329 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$329.1665647.6%312 W · 344 L+17.8wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-12.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xdc16…40a5backed Fucsovics60c1,170$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$700.461,12542.8%482 W · 643 L-7.3wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Khachanov69c1,107$759 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$348.0249143%211 W · 280 L-15.1wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-21.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0cb1…5286backed Fucsovics18c1,100$203 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20313134.4%45 W · 86 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8816…7738backed Fucsovics31c1,095$335 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$335.361,12350.3%565 W · 558 L-19.4wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc0ac…fd51backed Fucsovics33c909.06$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$299.9928444.7%127 W · 157 L+13.7wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+13.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf332…3c89backed Fucsovics48c907.26$435 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$435.3940141.9%168 W · 233 L+9.3wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd696…8a49backed Khachanov69c870.52$601 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$269.8614750.3%74 W · 73 L+6.1wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+11.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9ed9…9949backed Khachanov69c807.25$557 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$250.2546553.8%250 W · 215 L-1.4wins0.00per pick54cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x480e…71e9backed Khachanov63c800$501 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$298.8113560.7%82 W · 53 L+4.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa661…eb28backed Fucsovics32c800$256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2564047.5%19 W · 21 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-15.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x97a0…da35backed Fucsovics13c769.23$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10047946.3%222 W · 257 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf588…2b81backed Fucsovics39c705.86$277 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$276.8581349.1%399 W · 414 L+21.6wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-9.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd1fd…abf9backed Khachanov65c650$422 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.888762.1%54 W · 33 L+3.9wins+0.04per pick58cpaid+1.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4042…0bdabacked Fucsovics34c609.71$207 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20799139.9%395 W · 596 L-9.3wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-1.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc48a…c6c4backed Fucsovics34c600$204 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2045514.5%8 W · 47 L-4.6wins-0.08per pick23cpaid-66.3%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Khachanov65c597$388 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$208.9575748.6%368 W · 389 L+16.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x66b1…340fbacked Khachanov64c590$377 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$212.91,16144.3%514 W · 647 L+1.0wins0.00per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xba86…9ab0backed Fucsovics32c589.41$189 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.6168139.1%266 W · 415 L-30.3wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-12.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x10b0…8525backed Fucsovics30c559.99$169 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$168.643042.8%184 W · 246 L-8.6wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-7.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd5d4…8b32backed Fucsovics9c555$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.951,2078%96 W · 1,111 L+17.2wins+0.01per pick7cpaid+80.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x698b…4426backed Fucsovics31c530.3$164 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$164.3973453%389 W · 345 L+36.9wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+7.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x41da…0b58backed Fucsovics10c500$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.512722%28 W · 99 L+9.9wins+0.08per pick14cpaid+55.1%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x3eff…ae12backed Fucsovics31c479.49$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$150.0516340.5%66 W · 97 L+6.3wins+0.04per pick37cpaid+6.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf642…0c19backed Fucsovics8c478.63$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$366732.8%22 W · 45 L-2.5wins-0.04per pick37cpaid-17.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5067…a127backed Khachanov70c434.37$304 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$130.3110756.1%60 W · 47 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick55cpaid+8.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x18aa…2287backed Khachanov71c400.59$284 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$117.047169%49 W · 22 L+5.1wins+0.07per pick62cpaid+13.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2727…eef4backed Fucsovics36c369$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$132.5419134%65 W · 126 L+6.4wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x689a…97a4backed Khachanov69c365.43$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$114.94633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.6wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-51.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa509…ae46backed Fucsovics31c355.54$111 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111.056,84048.8%3,341 W · 3,499 L+58.3wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-15.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe129…b549backed Fucsovics29c344.83$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001250%6 W · 6 L+1.8wins+0.15per pick35cpaid+25.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x95b8…47c9backed Fucsovics45c341.36$154 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$153.6128443%122 W · 162 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-4.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0599…3c6abacked Khachanov68c323.53$220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.5358859%347 W · 241 L-9.2wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xba58…28c2backed Khachanov69c323.19$223 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.1965652.1%342 W · 314 L+7.5wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9cf7…e5a5backed Fucsovics32c312.5$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001,26634.2%433 W · 833 L-43.2wins-0.03per pick38cpaid-9.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3b1f…6500backed Fucsovics35c305$107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.1369249.6%343 W · 349 L-9.4wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-14.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0cde…6040backed Khachanov69c304.35$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$94.3516665.7%109 W · 57 L+7.4wins+0.04per pick61cpaid+7.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe706…89bcbacked Fucsovics23c303.24$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7012536%45 W · 80 L+6.2wins+0.05per pick31cpaid+14.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xbc9f…3314backed Fucsovics33c303.03$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1005438.9%21 W · 33 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick41cpaid+22.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x588b…8593backed Fucsovics35c285.71$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001,10743.5%481 W · 626 L-3.9wins0.00per pick44cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Khachanov70c265.01$185 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.583,07244.9%1,378 W · 1,694 L-30.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-23%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfe9e…7505backed Fucsovics31c241.94$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7513052.3%68 W · 62 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-10.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe649…4e37backed Fucsovics32c222$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.041,41441.1%581 W · 833 L-21.3wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1e7d…4a9bbacked Khachanov59c219.88$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.8839850%199 W · 199 L-0.5wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x077c…98abbacked Khachanov70c213.69$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.119450%47 W · 47 L-5.6wins-0.06per pick56cpaid-8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2fa9…72dbbacked Fucsovics49c204.9$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10010%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1d08…2142backed Fucsovics40c204.7$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.8810348.5%50 W · 53 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-15.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9f6d…bfc5backed Khachanov68c202.37$138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.7631153.1%165 W · 146 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-1.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3578…f163backed Khachanov70c200$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6039872.4%288 W · 110 L+9.5wins+0.02per pick70cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdc9f…905bbacked Khachanov70c200$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$602152.4%11 W · 10 L-0.2wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-6.3%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x2060…9186backed Khachanov69c200$138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6212861.7%79 W · 49 L+2.9wins+0.02per pick59cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa924…b1b9backed Fucsovics18c200$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3613923.7%33 W · 106 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick23cpaid-9.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Fucsovics24c190.28$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.92,06834.9%721 W · 1,347 L-44.2wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-25.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x58e4…73f9backed Fucsovics9c187.01$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.5930741.7%128 W · 179 L-1.4wins0.00per pick42cpaid-6.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xadaf…aefdbacked Fucsovics25c181.41$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45.3546439.7%184 W · 280 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick38cpaid+6.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x751b…90fbbacked Khachanov71c177$126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.2520758%120 W · 87 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc0c8…090cbacked Khachanov66c174.69$116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.8513356.4%75 W · 58 L+2.7wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe026…2b3abacked Fucsovics60c165.57$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10050364.6%325 W · 178 L+0.6wins0.00per pick64cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7e64…7308backed Fucsovics31c162.27$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$505343.4%23 W · 30 L0.0wins0.00per pick43cpaid+2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf971…0a57backed Khachanov75c160.04$119 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.6428933.2%96 W · 193 L-2.7wins-0.01per pick34cpaid-15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1fc8…f45bbacked Fucsovics32c156.25$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5028322.3%63 W · 220 L-13.3wins-0.05per pick27cpaid-31.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6aaa…ddfdbacked Khachanov65c153.46$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.5827346.5%127 W · 146 L+7.2wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-4.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x545d…c122backed Fucsovics33c151.52$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5046030.4%140 W · 320 L-18.7wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-19.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa6be…b977backed Fucsovics30c151.5$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45.451,76843.2%764 W · 1,004 L+2.9wins0.00per pick43cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcd3d…e7ebbacked Khachanov67c149.25$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.251,13027.9%315 W · 815 L+1.6wins0.00per pick28cpaid-11.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8ae3…3c15backed Khachanov68c145.33$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.5168350.1%342 W · 341 L-25.5wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-7.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa4cf…3e8cbacked Khachanov69c144.93$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.933333.3%11 W · 22 L-1.8wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-3.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa7b2…7b9cbacked Khachanov69c144.93$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.9315759.9%94 W · 63 L+14.9wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+20.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x6aad…20aebacked Khachanov69c144.93$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.9352460.9%319 W · 205 L+0.5wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7690…dfcebacked Fucsovics31c129.03$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4034637.9%131 W · 215 L+0.7wins0.00per pick38cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4035…5e54backed Khachanov68c129$88 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.289248.9%45 W · 47 L-2.9wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-0.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Tennis and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.