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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: 1WIN vs Butterfly (BO3) - CCT Europe Series #5 Playoffs

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Butterflyof 1WIN, Butterfly
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$112,397
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$133,551

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $112,397 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 155 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xddc3…029cbacked 1WIN39c11,364$4,488 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,487.8192456.8%525 W · 399 L+2.0wins0.00per pick57cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked Butterfly39c4,792$1,855 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,936.785,05055.1%2,781 W · 2,269 L+117.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1186…0355backed 1WIN44c2,829$1,249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,249.0523356.2%131 W · 102 L+10.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+8.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x051c…ca3fbacked Butterfly50c2,663$1,336 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,326.7635847.5%170 W · 188 L-13.4wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-10.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa16b…b541backed 1WIN52c2,202$1,146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,145.943455.1%239 W · 195 L+13.9wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+6.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf0d8…8eafbacked 1WIN64c2,019$1,287 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,286.874768.1%32 W · 15 L+4.3wins+0.09per pick59cpaid+16.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5c18…2f76backed Butterfly34c1,890$641 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,248.788330.7%271 W · 612 L-63.8wins-0.07per pick38cpaid-35.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x8a90…7e68backed 1WIN61c1,788$1,090 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,090.42958.6%17 W · 12 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick60cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Butterfly27c1,576$422 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,154.55,83037.8%2,203 W · 3,627 L+79.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4572…83ffbacked 1WIN68c1,460$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00032348.9%158 W · 165 L-11.5wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-6.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4a53…ade7backed 1WIN70c1,405$983 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$983366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.05per pick62cpaid+16.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed Butterfly48c1,210$576 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$633.2480942.3%342 W · 467 L-16.2wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Butterfly40c1,151$465 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$685.472,62451.8%1,359 W · 1,265 L+18.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5135…7217backed Butterfly38c1,046$402 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$644.391,62052.7%853 W · 767 L+57.6wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3881…804ebacked 1WIN65c1,016$659 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$658.891,49651.5%771 W · 725 L-7.2wins0.00per pick52cpaid-0.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xedcc…41a1backed 1WIN37c965$357 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$357.0521953.4%117 W · 102 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed 1WIN52c904.84$466 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$466.346,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc34b…9296backed Butterfly39c868.42$339 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$529.742,00953.9%1,082 W · 927 L+7.6wins0.00per pick53cpaid+2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6e2c…787cbacked 1WIN23c858.92$196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$196.0775245.3%341 W · 411 L-1.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-23.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xae22…3ab3backed Butterfly35c826.87$289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$537.474151.2%21 W · 20 L+4.9wins+0.12per pick39cpaid+16.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked Butterfly50c782.09$391 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$391.013,45929.3%1,012 W · 2,447 L-279.9wins-0.08per pick37cpaid-43.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x912f…b25bbacked Butterfly38c703.87$269 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$435.277834.6%27 W · 51 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-21.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8b6a…9fb9backed 1WIN60c648$389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$388.82147.6%10 W · 11 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+26.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf1d5…54d5backed 1WIN49c628.6$307 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$306.641050.7%208 W · 202 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb55b…c5b4backed 1WIN58c614.99$354 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$354.3335153.8%189 W · 162 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x4b27…0635backed 1WIN39c600$236 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23631749.5%157 W · 160 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf7eb…eef7backed 1WIN42c541.62$229 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$228.793351.5%17 W · 16 L+2.1wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+8.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4d91…16abbacked 1WIN60c523$314 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$313.8250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.08per pick59cpaid-12.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x787f…d40cbacked 1WIN61c509$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$310.4927940.5%113 W · 166 L-16.0wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-14.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0e50…2609backed Butterfly39c507.79$198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$309.7559755.4%331 W · 266 L+7.0wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe6fd…302ebacked 1WIN59c501.88$294 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$294.2210%0 W · 1 L-0.6wins-0.59per pick59cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed 1WIN44c501.18$221 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$220.642,77424.5%681 W · 2,093 L-295.8wins-0.11per pick35cpaid-50.7%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x2405…e055backed Butterfly49c500$245 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25515948.4%77 W · 82 L-0.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid+3.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked Butterfly44c456.68$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$256.575833.4%253 W · 505 L-48.9wins-0.06per pick40cpaid-31%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa4b2…fb36backed 1WIN60c437.7$263 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$262.62540%2 W · 3 L-0.2wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-9.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x97f9…0aebbacked 1WIN60c434$260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$260.43557.1%20 W · 15 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+10.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x74ab…ee2bbacked 1WIN62c422.58$262 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$262825%2 W · 6 L-2.1wins-0.26per pick51cpaid-61.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Butterfly26c421.09$109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$311.783,20245.6%1,459 W · 1,743 L-79.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-16%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7bbb…ad2ebacked Butterfly21c418.52$88 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$330.959043.3%39 W · 51 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfb2c…5280backed 1WIN60c405$243 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2431145.5%5 W · 6 L-0.5wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-18.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x489b…a6ecbacked Butterfly47c396.43$186 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$210.113537.1%13 W · 22 L-2.5wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-30.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1c81…5518backed 1WIN15c385$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57.0512049.2%59 W · 61 L+3.6wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+7.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1bac…d241backed Butterfly37c383.16$141 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$241.7940639.4%160 W · 246 L-1.8wins0.00per pick40cpaid-8.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked Butterfly52c377.62$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.3940137.2%149 W · 252 L-17.6wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked Butterfly45c369.66$167 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$202.883,91036.6%1,431 W · 2,479 L-197.6wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-29.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x4cf7…4b3abacked Butterfly50c369.08$186 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$183.1415646.8%73 W · 83 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfbe8…bb28backed Butterfly35c339.71$119 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$220.8122044.5%98 W · 122 L-4.5wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-5.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcca1…9d25backed Butterfly47c335.87$158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$178.171060%6 W · 4 L+0.3wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xece5…6de0backed 1WIN49c320$156 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$156.413449.3%66 W · 68 L+8.4wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+11.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x3e83…00aabacked Butterfly34c317.54$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$209.317142.1%72 W · 99 L-9.6wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-10.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x61a8…519dbacked 1WIN64c312.5$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20014544.8%65 W · 80 L-2.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5505…aa44backed Butterfly40c298.77$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$179.2138841.8%162 W · 226 L+8.1wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xda77…683fbacked Butterfly45c294.05$132 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$162.492,47334.6%855 W · 1,618 L-188.5wins-0.08per pick42cpaid-37.2%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Butterfly55c293.75$163 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$131.042,32645.1%1,049 W · 1,277 L-62.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xde57…666fbacked 1WIN64c293.3$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$187.715133.3%17 W · 34 L-5.5wins-0.11per pick44cpaid-25.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x8d25…0f79backed 1WIN58c286.25$165 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1655450%27 W · 27 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-7.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb6c5…20d0backed 1WIN65c284.97$185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$184.8261054.9%335 W · 275 L+10.1wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1769…94efbacked 1WIN63c282.73$177 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$176.8191648.9%448 W · 468 L+4.4wins0.00per pick48cpaid-3.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xad89…e006backed Butterfly12c269.99$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$237.8939440.4%159 W · 235 L+30.0wins+0.08per pick33cpaid+20.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb8ef…2864backed 1WIN61c262.58$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$160.1717052.4%89 W · 81 L+8.7wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+5.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x40e3…5627backed Butterfly68c261.79$177 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.7240558.8%238 W · 167 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc75d…0717backed 1WIN50c259.57$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$130.2229543.1%127 W · 168 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-6.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1cb5…2d03backed 1WIN60c242.1$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.268240.2%33 W · 49 L-7.5wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-22%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x4fb0…6197backed 1WIN15c235$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.258958.4%52 W · 37 L+7.2wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+16.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x1ec6…9404backed Butterfly34c234.75$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.933237.5%12 W · 20 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick37cpaid+6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4367…e904backed 1WIN61c200.64$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$123.391553.3%8 W · 7 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfb0c…8c72backed Butterfly43c200.03$87 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.3237848.1%182 W · 196 L+3.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2b35…0bfebacked Butterfly41c200$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11891945.8%421 W · 498 L-10.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-6.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa8eb…0f59backed 1WIN56c179.91$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10021845.9%100 W · 118 L+4.4wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd92c…dd9abacked 1WIN60c179.73$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.845246.2%24 W · 28 L-4.0wins-0.08per pick54cpaid-19.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf868…3b45backed Butterfly64c170.61$109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.7211841.5%49 W · 69 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-7.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Butterfly55c159.43$88 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.355,51147%2,590 W · 2,921 L+42.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6b26…8c32backed 1WIN40c159.04$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6312750.4%64 W · 63 L+7.8wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xeb87…eb45backed Butterfly42c157.93$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$91.610142.6%43 W · 58 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-8.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdf7c…4c16backed Butterfly63c157.88$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.0313655.9%76 W · 60 L+8.6wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+8.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2363…ed78backed 1WIN50c157.11$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.136640.9%27 W · 39 L-2.5wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-19.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x10d7…bbf6backed Butterfly59c155.91$93 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.2519468.6%133 W · 61 L+25.9wins+0.13per pick55cpaid+12.3%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0xfa9b…4b71backed 1WIN64c155.76$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10010%0 W · 1 L-0.6wins-0.64per pick64cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3e6a…7dccbacked Butterfly65c152.68$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.686550.8%33 W · 32 L-3.7wins-0.06per pick57cpaid-8.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed 1WIN61c152.48$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93.011,61846.8%758 W · 860 L-28.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcfd1…cd25backed 1WIN60c150$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$904454.5%24 W · 20 L+4.2wins+0.10per pick45cpaid+19.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5f56…348abacked 1WIN43c145.23$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62.6360032.3%194 W · 406 L-49.7wins-0.08per pick41cpaid-38.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x3f0f…0e48backed 1WIN62c144.42$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89.987440.5%30 W · 44 L-4.0wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-18.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4ffd…7821backed 1WIN65c139$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$90.1778043.7%341 W · 439 L-21.5wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-20.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe222…6019backed 1WIN49c137.44$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.054450%22 W · 22 L-1.6wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-2.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc7d0…1f8abacked Butterfly51c133.98$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.841,59146.6%741 W · 850 L+30.3wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-11.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x94d2…cfbdbacked 1WIN55c131.65$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.872,11047.2%995 W · 1,115 L-62.2wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-18.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7b28…ff4fbacked Butterfly52c130.86$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.311,35252%703 W · 649 L+29.7wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4a3f…4333backed Butterfly37c129$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81.2746555.1%256 W · 209 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x391d…def1backed Butterfly36c124$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.3620440.7%83 W · 121 L+3.4wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-1.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa72a…5685backed 1WIN20c123.6$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.3231241.3%129 W · 183 L-14.0wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-13.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked 1WIN59c122.23$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.111,62344.9%728 W · 895 L+4.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0063…2dd2backed Butterfly51c117.42$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.0740264.7%260 W · 142 L+49.2wins+0.12per pick52cpaid+10.7%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0x2899…707fbacked 1WIN60c112.34$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.4714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.3wins-0.18per pick32cpaid-60.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5aa8…efa7backed Butterfly45c109$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$59.954365.1%28 W · 15 L+5.2wins+0.12per pick53cpaid+35.4%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x08e0…f4a0backed Butterfly37c108.11$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68.1183856.1%470 W · 368 L+31.1wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+9.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xeb34…ee6ebacked Butterfly50c106.9$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.31633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.6wins-0.11per pick44cpaid-33.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9c40…cd62backed Butterfly36c104.49$38 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.49666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.0wins+0.17per pick50cpaid+26.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed 1WIN79c102.44$81 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.044,22849.2%2,080 W · 2,148 L+59.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x0fde…0258backed Butterfly64c100.57$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.5779951.7%413 W · 386 L+25.4wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 2 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.