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LoL: Cloud9 vs Team Liquid (BO3) - Esports World Cup North America Qualifier Playoffs

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Liquidof Cloud9, Team Liquid
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$208,115
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$241,373

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $208,115 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 209 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x88b9…0fc9backed Cloud960c21,472$12,883 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,883.234837.4%130 W · 218 L-4.1wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed Team Liquid40c20,023$8,013 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,010.051,63540.2%657 W · 978 L+48.7wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Team Liquid40c20,000$7,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,099.983,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe015…6ffdbacked Cloud959c18,248$10,766 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,766.2196948.6%471 W · 498 L+12.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf928…8016backed Cloud960c16,267$9,760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,760450%2 W · 2 L-0.8wins-0.19per pick69cpaid-26.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xcdfb…980cbacked Cloud961c13,526$8,251 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,250.8119150.8%97 W · 94 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-7.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf070…ac55backed Team Liquid41c12,990$5,292 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,697.3753750.5%271 W · 266 L+14.6wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9770…0ff5backed Cloud959c9,754$5,750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,750.0859750.4%301 W · 296 L+8.7wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+4.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9cb9…32f2backed Team Liquid41c9,527$3,906 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,620.7419239.1%75 W · 117 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick38cpaid+0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb7f5…c669backed Team Liquid40c9,000$3,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,4004250%21 W · 21 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed Team Liquid69c6,785$4,662 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,122.3296350.2%483 W · 480 L+1.9wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5fea…78b1backed Cloud97c6,341$446 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$446.4113936%50 W · 89 L-0.5wins0.00per pick36cpaid-23.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0a63…fc03backed Team Liquid39c4,231$1,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,580.7343542.5%185 W · 250 L+19.2wins+0.04per pick38cpaid+19.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x8fbb…9a17backed Cloud960c4,026$2,416 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,415.625243.7%110 W · 142 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-14.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x33ba…2d47backed Team Liquid45c3,888$1,740 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,148.16333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.13per pick46cpaid-25.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe59c…4da7backed Team Liquid75c3,842$2,881 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$960.3710051%51 W · 49 L-8.8wins-0.09per pick60cpaid-16.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked Cloud930c3,796$1,128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,128.251,09752.3%574 W · 523 L+5.7wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8688…9d8cbacked Cloud957c3,411$1,944 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,944.2116047.5%76 W · 84 L-0.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d11…99cabacked Cloud99c3,025$284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$283.691330.8%4 W · 9 L-0.9wins-0.07per pick38cpaid-35.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x9bad…861fbacked Cloud925c2,598$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$649.593246.9%15 W · 17 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5d34…7c8cbacked Team Liquid40c2,138$855 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,282.630421.7%66 W · 238 L-4.7wins-0.02per pick23cpaid-14.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc463…9a2fbacked Team Liquid40c2,000$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,20012754.3%69 W · 58 L+8.6wins+0.07per pick48cpaid+14.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xc128…2217backed Cloud954c1,805$972 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$972.362437.5%9 W · 15 L-4.3wins-0.18per pick55cpaid-46.7%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x7b75…3fd1backed Team Liquid57c1,739$990 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$748.6594134.5%325 W · 616 L+33.6wins+0.04per pick31cpaid-1.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf201…527ebacked Cloud961c1,736$1,059 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,059.151,30045.2%587 W · 713 L+50.6wins+0.04per pick41cpaid-10%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked Cloud925c1,617$404 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$404.2578549.9%392 W · 393 L+12.7wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe169…4653backed Team Liquid42c1,575$662 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$913.614346.9%67 W · 76 L-6.0wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-2.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8705…edbabacked Team Liquid39c1,473$582 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$891.342941.5%178 W · 251 L-24.0wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-20%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xad8f…6b52backed Team Liquid41c1,334$547 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$786.6514336.4%52 W · 91 L-6.0wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-18.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Cloud948c1,304$627 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$627.0167931.8%216 W · 463 L-31.9wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-35.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xa557…6e77backed Team Liquid41c1,277$523 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$753.1724147.3%114 W · 127 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x418d…3585backed Cloud948c1,249$601 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$601.19837.5%3 W · 5 L-1.3wins-0.16per pick54cpaid-38.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x653e…bbc0backed Team Liquid41c1,071$439 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$631.6341433.6%139 W · 275 L-30.0wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-23.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xa19d…3909backed Team Liquid59c1,037$614 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$422.981,52550.6%771 W · 754 L+3.4wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd507…a6ddbacked Team Liquid42c1,000$420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$580.0230035%105 W · 195 L-21.3wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-19.4%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xf301…4ce1backed Team Liquid74c1,000$740 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26021622.7%49 W · 167 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick22cpaid-14.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb1b8…9d1fbacked Cloud925c998.7$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$248.6745937%170 W · 289 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick38cpaid+13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2d7a…87c7backed Team Liquid40c982.3$398 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$584.5612763%80 W · 47 L+8.3wins+0.07per pick56cpaid+8.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8dd1…5a9bbacked Cloud960c976$586 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$585.622757.3%130 W · 97 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb877…4601backed Team Liquid66c975.18$647 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$328.611,24439.7%494 W · 750 L-69.7wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-24.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x26d6…caccbacked Cloud937c974.46$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$359.5250041.6%208 W · 292 L-15.5wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-33.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6628…05aebacked Team Liquid40c964$386 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$578.432436.7%119 W · 205 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a41…15b2backed Cloud93c943.86$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.813842.8%59 W · 79 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-5.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3f12…3e35backed Cloud941c876.4$355 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$355.1737641.8%157 W · 219 L-18.8wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-13.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xc671…b0c7backed Team Liquid42c851.56$357 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$494.4742847.9%205 W · 223 L-6.2wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-7.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Cloud949c816.26$402 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$402.113,15933.8%1,068 W · 2,091 L-152.6wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-34.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x4ffd…7821backed Cloud950c816.17$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$406.1378043.1%336 W · 444 L-22.3wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-25.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6277…5a3fbacked Cloud926c812.64$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$210.2990937.3%339 W · 570 L-20.2wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked Team Liquid43c794.59$338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$456.6676030.3%230 W · 530 L-20.1wins-0.03per pick33cpaid-14.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6bf7…e64cbacked Cloud926c735.08$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.1224227.7%67 W · 175 L-3.7wins-0.02per pick29cpaid+1.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb126…f338backed Cloud920c730.29$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$144.857958.2%46 W · 33 L+7.7wins+0.10per pick48cpaid+10.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb003…d962backed Team Liquid40c723$289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$433.879151.8%410 W · 381 L+15.5wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5cc5…1135backed Team Liquid40c723$289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$433.844042%185 W · 255 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-7.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd81f…6b75backed Team Liquid40c693.85$278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$416.3135243.2%152 W · 200 L-8.5wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x04bd…39a0backed Team Liquid44c678.35$298 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$379.881,22945.1%554 W · 675 L+48.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9958…b9acbacked Team Liquid43c615.92$267 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$348.6538756.6%219 W · 168 L-12.0wins-0.03per pick60cpaid-5.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3548…14dabacked Cloud926c609.83$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$158.5520%0 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.23per pick23cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x041b…d3ebbacked Team Liquid41c607.7$249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$358.5428852.1%150 W · 138 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1173…1d74backed Cloud920c596.44$121 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$121.0733040.3%133 W · 197 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed Cloud944c592.86$261 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$260.861,54543.8%676 W · 869 L-28.0wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-14.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe405…c67ebacked Team Liquid46c546.69$251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$295.2167760.4%409 W · 268 L+42.6wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+10.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed Cloud957c518.78$296 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$295.681,82745.6%834 W · 993 L+26.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xf727…2aecbacked Team Liquid43c501.75$216 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2861861.1%11 W · 7 L+2.5wins+0.14per pick47cpaid+25.9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x14a0…22bbbacked Cloud960c500.2$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.121,15568.1%786 W · 369 L+35.1wins+0.03per pick65cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbe59…0d2ebacked Team Liquid40c500$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30060538.8%235 W · 370 L-1.5wins0.00per pick39cpaid-6.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Team Liquid39c500$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3051,25838.6%485 W · 773 L-61.8wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-20.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbfee…ed1fbacked Team Liquid40c500$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30015821.5%34 W · 124 L-6.9wins-0.04per pick26cpaid-34.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7809…64ccbacked Cloud926c499.99$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13017431%54 W · 120 L-0.5wins0.00per pick31cpaid+15.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf1e7…cdc7backed Team Liquid42c499.99$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$289.993100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+104.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x40ce…bf90backed Cloud960c489.07$293 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$293.431,15355.9%645 W · 508 L+25.4wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+8.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Team Liquid41c482.3$198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$284.562,36731.9%756 W · 1,611 L+41.4wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcea6…67adbacked Cloud961c480.95$293 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$292.9628150.5%142 W · 139 L-5.0wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x87e5…74f7backed Team Liquid41c477.33$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$281.4112042.5%51 W · 69 L-5.0wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-15.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1fef…8c79backed Team Liquid41c470.54$193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$277.6226246.9%123 W · 139 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6ddd…1fc8backed Team Liquid77c451.03$345 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.749259.8%55 W · 37 L-4.0wins-0.04per pick64cpaid-6.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa094…3f07backed Team Liquid45c448.08$202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.454346.5%20 W · 23 L+1.6wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+9.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Cloud929c439.46$128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$128.342,36440.7%963 W · 1,401 L-57.2wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-11.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Team Liquid40c437.98$175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$262.791,61643.8%708 W · 908 L-74.7wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-16%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked Cloud943c424.82$184 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1841,09147.4%517 W · 574 L-2.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-14.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x812a…73edbacked Team Liquid39c406.41$160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.1258420.2%118 W · 466 L-58.1wins-0.10per pick30cpaid-43%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x0e91…ea34backed Team Liquid66c391.81$258 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$133.750770%355 W · 152 L+15.6wins+0.03per pick67cpaid+4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked Cloud926c382.24$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.381,06154.7%580 W · 481 L+13.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x561d…94bebacked Cloud926c367.54$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.5646552.7%245 W · 220 L-4.1wins-0.01per pick54cpaid+0.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Cloud944c357.89$157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$157.42,91038.5%1,120 W · 1,790 L-120.0wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-27.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed Cloud926c348.82$92 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$91.7692342.7%394 W · 529 L-16.1wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-6.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x14ac…dd9fbacked Cloud927c345.33$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93.243522.9%8 W · 27 L-3.7wins-0.11per pick33cpaid-25.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Team Liquid50c323.92$163 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$161.311,73144.2%765 W · 966 L-28.4wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0a8c…f872backed Cloud961c320.2$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.3215754.8%86 W · 71 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6cc8…67f7backed Cloud961c320.2$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.3224759.1%146 W · 101 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick60cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3e6d…2671backed Team Liquid42c307.98$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$177.61,57748.4%764 W · 813 L+17.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2aa5…ff32backed Team Liquid40c300.02$119 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.31,23249.4%609 W · 623 L+13.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xba67…4727backed Team Liquid39c290$113 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$176.929952.2%156 W · 143 L+13.9wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+10.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Cloud960c281.33$168 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$167.999338.6%383 W · 610 L-21.3wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-19.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4d76…90a0backed Team Liquid40c262.84$105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$157.710653.8%57 W · 49 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-11.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5d16…821abacked Team Liquid41c261.57$107 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.744643.5%20 W · 26 L-3.0wins-0.07per pick50cpaid-21.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1bcb…b05abacked Team Liquid58c255.16$149 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$106.2423751.5%122 W · 115 L+11.7wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+4.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x2e1b…c279backed Team Liquid41c252.19$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$148.793565.7%23 W · 12 L+4.0wins+0.11per pick54cpaid+21.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Cloud953c248.09$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$132.321,02539.6%406 W · 619 L-20.4wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-19.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6f0c…a691backed Team Liquid69c247.33$171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76.6762851%320 W · 308 L+1.5wins0.00per pick51cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x87c0…244ebacked Team Liquid45c239.39$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$131.6620445.1%92 W · 112 L+6.9wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+4.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 8 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.