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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Tundra Esports vs PARIVISION - Game 1 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Tundra Esportsof Tundra Esports, PARIVISION
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$207,296
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$239,326

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $207,296 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 163 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf9b5…09eebacked Tundra Esports55c24,519$13,521 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,997.8455157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked PARIVISION54c15,849$8,630 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,629.972,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x86b1…c094backed Tundra Esports30c10,624$3,226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,398.0865625.6%168 W · 488 L+14.7wins+0.02per pick23cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1547…09a8backed PARIVISION0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101060%6 W · 4 L+1.4wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+6.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xac47…d234backed PARIVISION44c9,400$4,106 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,106.252133.3%7 W · 14 L-2.8wins-0.13per pick47cpaid-38.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd56b…342dbacked Tundra Esports59c7,034$4,166 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,868.223850%19 W · 19 L-1.6wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-12%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xcbd6…5f73backed PARIVISION59c6,535$3,883 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,883.257143.7%31 W · 40 L-0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed PARIVISION47c5,849$2,758 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,758.1466662.2%414 W · 252 L+60.2wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x2586…f071backed Tundra Esports48c5,660$2,706 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,954.0134468.9%237 W · 107 L+26.3wins+0.08per pick61cpaid+2.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xdb63…a71dbacked Tundra Esports57c5,566$3,191 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,374.8820159.7%120 W · 81 L+9.9wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+7.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x084b…3de6backed PARIVISION53c5,559$2,971 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,971.4810741.1%44 W · 63 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-18.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed PARIVISION65c4,640$3,038 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,037.8596557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6b91…06c4backed PARIVISION62c4,040$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,5002828.6%8 W · 20 L-4.3wins-0.15per pick44cpaid-44.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x30db…07c3backed PARIVISION52c3,876$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00054445.8%249 W · 295 L-10.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6fd3…3d7abacked PARIVISION42c3,394$1,441 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,441.1929047.9%139 W · 151 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x533e…47f4backed Tundra Esports34c2,933$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,933.2911359.3%67 W · 46 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick58cpaid-2.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x5454…ceadbacked Tundra Esports26c2,566$667 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,899.068543.5%37 W · 48 L-4.4wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-6.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed PARIVISION68c2,494$1,704 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,704.1980443.9%353 W · 451 L-1.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3265…d5b8backed PARIVISION79c2,018$1,599 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,598.965942.4%25 W · 34 L+2.9wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked PARIVISION40c1,830$728 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$727.791,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe375…dadfbacked Tundra Esports55c1,826$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$825.9912948.1%62 W · 67 L-9.3wins-0.07per pick55cpaid-13.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xed10…15edbacked Tundra Esports60c1,786$1,077 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$709.6188166.7%588 W · 293 L+76.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+12.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Tundra Esports39c1,735$680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,054.581,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x588d…3f41backed PARIVISION69c1,288$893 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89328544.9%128 W · 157 L-7.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3c29…21aabacked Tundra Esports55c1,257$697 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$559.578060%48 W · 32 L+3.2wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x00a1…5062backed PARIVISION55c1,176$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65021346.5%99 W · 114 L-8.1wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked Tundra Esports62c1,150$714 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$436.4677458.5%453 W · 321 L+75.1wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xf679…16acbacked PARIVISION57c1,000$570 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57022954.1%124 W · 105 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+7.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcc81…5df2backed PARIVISION47c1,000$470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4709557.9%55 W · 40 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1bcb…b05abacked PARIVISION61c1,000$610 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61038049.2%187 W · 193 L+13.1wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+168.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd679…9ccfbacked PARIVISION68c1,000$684 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68414058.6%82 W · 58 L+11.7wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+9.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed Tundra Esports52c999.99$520 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$479.9979959.4%475 W · 324 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick59cpaid-2.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed PARIVISION54c993.91$537 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$536.562,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8a38…fee0backed PARIVISION44c980.23$431 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43160349.9%301 W · 302 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x391d…def1backed Tundra Esports20c928$182 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$746.115935.6%21 W · 38 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-6.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd49d…f05cbacked PARIVISION43c885.04$381 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$380.572161.9%13 W · 8 L+3.3wins+0.16per pick46cpaid+45.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x00ce…3f01backed Tundra Esports55c871.56$483 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.5615345.8%70 W · 83 L-7.2wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-13.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Tundra Esports45c865.26$389 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$476.141,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x59cf…2d48backed PARIVISION63c863.29$544 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$543.87250%1 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.15per pick65cpaid-26.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf3be…f543backed Tundra Esports25c809.6$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$609.625457.9%147 W · 107 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+6.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x55af…0715backed PARIVISION66c618.59$408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$408.273164.5%20 W · 11 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick67cpaid-2.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x66fb…9f72backed PARIVISION49c610.71$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30054556.5%308 W · 237 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2f1f…aa39backed PARIVISION48c600$286 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$286.4345061.6%277 W · 173 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick60cpaid-0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x245e…3cedbacked Tundra Esports45c586.03$265 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$320.892441.7%10 W · 14 L-1.2wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-17.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x24ca…5829backed Tundra Esports34c554.15$189 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$365.2815452.6%81 W · 73 L+0.2wins0.00per pick52cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0738…6392backed PARIVISION57c527.56$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30021264.2%136 W · 76 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick63cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1709…c148backed PARIVISION59c525$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311.9548352.4%253 W · 230 L-2.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7f52…c525backed Tundra Esports45c514.55$232 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$282.619053.3%48 W · 42 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed PARIVISION2c509.99$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.456132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfcf2…a469backed PARIVISION43c506.21$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$216.4913455.2%74 W · 60 L+7.4wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+2.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x1f04…5fc4backed PARIVISION42c500$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$210.1931545.4%143 W · 172 L-19.2wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-13.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4946…89d0backed PARIVISION65c500$325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3254967.3%33 W · 16 L+4.7wins+0.10per pick58cpaid+9.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xc75a…1ab2backed Tundra Esports22c499.99$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$389.9940014.8%59 W · 341 L+11.2wins+0.03per pick12cpaid-1.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked PARIVISION44c477.05$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209.953844.4%239 W · 299 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Tundra Esports50c451.1$224 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$226.9989440.3%360 W · 534 L+1.3wins0.00per pick40cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6998…ae95backed PARIVISION32c438.27$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$138.9816821.4%36 W · 132 L+0.4wins0.00per pick21cpaid-20.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7032…0a8bbacked Tundra Esports54c433.39$234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$199.3655251.6%285 W · 267 L+10.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1a12…d212backed Tundra Esports55c405.82$223 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$182.828957.3%51 W · 38 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8031…67e0backed Tundra Esports27c400$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29273743.6%321 W · 416 L-10.8wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x033e…1bb9backed Tundra Esports47c393.74$184 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$209.3356848.8%277 W · 291 L-1.1wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf7e0…0d61backed PARIVISION20c380.5$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.11520%3 W · 12 L-0.8wins-0.06per pick26cpaid-29.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x772c…3539backed Tundra Esports33c371.93$123 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$248.665543.6%24 W · 31 L0.0wins0.00per pick44cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9942…5c84backed Tundra Esports41c365.85$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$215.8526453%140 W · 124 L+0.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2da2…8c2bbacked PARIVISION60c336.52$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.0510966.1%72 W · 37 L+5.9wins+0.05per pick61cpaid+10.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3f03…7551backed PARIVISION50c300$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1502560%15 W · 10 L+0.9wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+8.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x368d…d853backed PARIVISION55c300$165 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16561548.8%300 W · 315 L+8.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked PARIVISION47c296.14$140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14048539.2%190 W · 295 L-8.4wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0d27…bd5abacked PARIVISION75c285.25$214 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$214.3846872.2%338 W · 130 L+36.5wins+0.08per pick64cpaid+11.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x60b4…6313backed Tundra Esports55c271.1$149 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$122.116160.2%97 W · 64 L-8.5wins-0.05per pick66cpaid-7.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb7e0…0d8abacked PARIVISION69c246.98$171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17126958.7%158 W · 111 L-7.2wins-0.03per pick61cpaid-6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked Tundra Esports30c237$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$165.992056.4%519 W · 401 L+78.3wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xdca4…1c68backed PARIVISION46c220$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101.264149.9%320 W · 321 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xaacf…5f84backed PARIVISION62c204.48$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.7859250.5%299 W · 293 L-20.7wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-10%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xad69…7397backed PARIVISION48c200$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9651140.3%206 W · 305 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3260…85ddbacked Tundra Esports30c200$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1406454.7%35 W · 29 L+7.9wins+0.12per pick42cpaid+16.9%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x2aa7…003fbacked Tundra Esports42c200$84 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$116.1345052.4%236 W · 214 L+13.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x913c…39b3backed Tundra Esports53c194$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.7471454.5%389 W · 325 L+55.6wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.9%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xc7c7…24c2backed PARIVISION78c188.49$147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$147.1113061.5%80 W · 50 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick61cpaid-3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8e19…d2b0backed PARIVISION28c176.91$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.3212547.2%59 W · 66 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcdca…66ebbacked PARIVISION57c173.61$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.962864.3%18 W · 10 L+2.7wins+0.10per pick55cpaid+15.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6a06…31d8backed PARIVISION72c168.06$121 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12141655.3%230 W · 186 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-6.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6e4d…1cb0backed Tundra Esports64c165.31$106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$59.0657654.5%314 W · 262 L+29.2wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x78db…4d37backed PARIVISION48c150$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$726944.9%31 W · 38 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-13.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7bef…be32backed PARIVISION46c142.15$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6513449.3%66 W · 68 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+5.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x28f5…2035backed PARIVISION56c140$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.433265.4%217 W · 115 L+23.7wins+0.07per pick58cpaid+5.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed Tundra Esports36c140$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.263032.5%205 W · 425 L+1.4wins0.00per pick32cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x89bc…a463backed PARIVISION72c138.89$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1002236.4%8 W · 14 L-2.8wins-0.13per pick49cpaid-20.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x0267…dc5abacked Tundra Esports28c138.89$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1001070%7 W · 3 L+4.5wins+0.45per pick25cpaid+163.2%equal weight64+0.13 edge/pick
0xbda6…6ae0backed Tundra Esports59c134.87$79 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.5736051.9%187 W · 173 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf8e6…a3b6backed PARIVISION50c123.64$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.9130%0 W · 3 L-1.3wins-0.44per pick44cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6d96…d524backed PARIVISION65c120$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7826957.6%155 W · 114 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7272…1b61backed PARIVISION51c119.61$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.71216.7%2 W · 10 L-2.6wins-0.22per pick39cpaid-75.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x53a5…fc83backed Tundra Esports46c117$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.185446.3%25 W · 29 L-3.0wins-0.06per pick52cpaid-14.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x755a…6da6backed PARIVISION44c113.64$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5018444.6%82 W · 102 L+12.2wins+0.07per pick38cpaid+25.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x2f78…b642backed Tundra Esports41c110$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.95825.9%15 W · 43 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick23cpaid-39.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x77f2…eec6backed PARIVISION57c107.47$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.2255457.8%320 W · 234 L+12.3wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x43d7…1c75backed Tundra Esports50c100$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$509339.8%37 W · 56 L-4.2wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-16.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe252…2071backed Tundra Esports52c100$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4817149.7%85 W · 86 L+6.7wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-1.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x736d…c635backed PARIVISION50c100$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5097142.7%415 W · 556 L-20.4wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7a41…ea16backed Tundra Esports52c100$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$482147.6%10 W · 11 L-1.6wins-0.07per pick55cpaid-5.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.