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Valorant · resolved market

Valorant: Nova Esports vs Wolves Esports (BO3) - VCT China Group Omega

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Nova Esportsof Nova Esports, Wolves Esports
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Valorantevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$49,311
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$54,873

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $49,311 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 148 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Valorant is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Valorant
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x8061…a32bbacked Nova Esports79c2,948$2,335 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$612.913378.8%26 W · 7 L+6.5wins+0.20per pick59cpaid+23.4%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked Wolves Esports60c2,140$1,287 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,286.5733153.5%177 W · 154 L-0.5wins0.00per pick54cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Nova Esports38c1,959$753 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,206.1141734.8%145 W · 272 L+11.0wins+0.03per pick32cpaid+7.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed Wolves Esports13c1,775$232 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$231.6677929.5%230 W · 549 L-72.4wins-0.09per pick39cpaid-39%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Wolves Esports20c1,719$346 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$345.7941537.1%154 W · 261 L-26.8wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-31.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Wolves Esports43c1,714$739 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$739.4970251.3%360 W · 342 L+7.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-5.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe9e5…8ce3backed Nova Esports63c1,440$903 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$537.844341.9%18 W · 25 L-3.5wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-19.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Wolves Esports22c1,316$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$290.2546326.6%123 W · 340 L-26.0wins-0.06per pick32cpaid-38.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed Nova Esports43c1,200$522 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$677.9832047.8%153 W · 167 L+8.9wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+11.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4047…7293backed Wolves Esports36c1,118$403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$402.5510756.1%60 W · 47 L+8.6wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+20.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x3ffb…df76backed Wolves Esports57c1,062$606 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$605.5319655.6%109 W · 87 L+12.9wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+16.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x48b8…4b69backed Nova Esports39c966.4$377 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$589.5111255.4%62 W · 50 L+4.1wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+12.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x72cc…a957backed Nova Esports43c965.8$415 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$550.511050%5 W · 5 L+0.9wins+0.09per pick41cpaid+8.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked Nova Esports76c963.81$731 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$233.0745033.8%152 W · 298 L-35.6wins-0.08per pick42cpaid-32.3%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x74a9…0dc7backed Nova Esports32c887.65$288 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$599.811172.7%8 W · 3 L+2.0wins+0.18per pick55cpaid+39%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Nova Esports55c854.73$470 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$384.91,37647.1%648 W · 728 L+10.6wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-6.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd81f…6b75backed Nova Esports39c810.87$317 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$493.919443.6%41 W · 53 L-5.9wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-14.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x53ab…65aabacked Nova Esports65c793.17$516 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$277.6155152.5%289 W · 262 L+20.7wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x49f2…d7b4backed Nova Esports40c792.95$317 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$475.771947.4%9 W · 10 L0.0wins0.00per pick47cpaid+29.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd7e8…4f4bbacked Wolves Esports62c783.9$486 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$486.028950.6%45 W · 44 L+3.6wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+9.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x36d8…c7c7backed Wolves Esports56c663.81$372 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$371.7423447%110 W · 124 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd421…7155backed Wolves Esports44c660.5$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$289.9850%4 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf2f9…db30backed Nova Esports50c650$325 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3253745.9%17 W · 20 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+13.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd4e3…d5f4backed Wolves Esports49c596.3$291 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$290.786446.9%30 W · 34 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7771…009fbacked Nova Esports41c569.59$235 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$334.662100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+106%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5984…76ebbacked Nova Esports40c563.94$226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$338.3629733.3%99 W · 198 L0.0wins0.00per pick33cpaid+3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc6b6…3addbacked Wolves Esports45c539.3$243 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242.6310%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.45per pick45cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa222…7d3cbacked Nova Esports64c525.06$336 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$189.021435.7%5 W · 9 L-0.5wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-41.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked Wolves Esports37c524.75$192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$192.0570043.7%306 W · 394 L-13.7wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-15.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3fcc…9f91backed Nova Esports59c516.4$303 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$213.7960022.7%136 W · 464 L-26.3wins-0.04per pick27cpaid-36.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb209…2639backed Nova Esports40c510$204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3061100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.60per pick40cpaid+150%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe76d…5a75backed Nova Esports40c500$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30053442.1%225 W · 309 L-15.0wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-6.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x64a7…2133backed Wolves Esports55c500$273 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$272.5911.1%1 W · 8 L-2.0wins-0.22per pick34cpaid-75.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x8f38…36c1backed Nova Esports44c500$220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2801100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.56per pick44cpaid+127.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x02c7…0927backed Wolves Esports62c469.23$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$290.126450%32 W · 32 L-3.3wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-12.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x4fb1…0787backed Nova Esports56c447.95$251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$196.581844.4%8 W · 10 L-0.8wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-19.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf4ec…c574backed Wolves Esports46c445.72$204 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$203.5434857.5%200 W · 148 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x55ab…4f88backed Wolves Esports16c409.35$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.0135331.2%110 W · 243 L-29.2wins-0.08per pick39cpaid-38.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xd3e7…bf64backed Nova Esports50c400$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20018143.6%79 W · 102 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb57f…0c96backed Wolves Esports61c395.76$241 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$241.4215843%68 W · 90 L-12.1wins-0.08per pick51cpaid-17%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x3449…4030backed Wolves Esports61c392.24$239 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$239.275738.6%22 W · 35 L-5.1wins-0.09per pick48cpaid-23.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Nova Esports55c360.28$197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1631,74646.2%806 W · 940 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-15.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed Wolves Esports35c356.49$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$124.9319945.2%90 W · 109 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick46cpaid+1.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed Nova Esports53c340.6$181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$159.431,49046.6%695 W · 795 L-16.1wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-12%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbf33…0353backed Wolves Esports66c307.76$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.8533346.5%155 W · 178 L-10.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-12.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0bef…3787backed Nova Esports64c300$192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$108425%1 W · 3 L-1.4wins-0.35per pick60cpaid-60.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd991…0133backed Wolves Esports50c288.91$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.8611559.1%68 W · 47 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick62cpaid-7.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa74a…4893backed Nova Esports54c287.36$155 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$132.2134739.8%138 W · 209 L-13.7wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-24.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x26d6…caccbacked Nova Esports49c280.72$137 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$143.330835.4%109 W · 199 L-23.8wins-0.08per pick43cpaid-40.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Nova Esports51c277.51$142 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$135.9888844.4%394 W · 494 L+0.5wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x236b…26b7backed Nova Esports39c269.81$106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$163.6715942.1%67 W · 92 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Nova Esports53c268.12$141 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.311,41751.3%727 W · 690 L+49.9wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+2.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0178…3f7abacked Wolves Esports49c250$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe9cd…9a4cbacked Wolves Esports24c250$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60771.4%5 W · 2 L+1.3wins+0.19per pick52cpaid+22.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0486…fbe5backed Nova Esports37c250$93 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$157.51100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.63per pick37cpaid+170.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf971…0a57backed Nova Esports32c228.25$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.575032%16 W · 34 L-4.0wins-0.08per pick40cpaid-16.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcf9b…2013backed Wolves Esports36c221.7$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79.8118735.3%66 W · 121 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+10.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf348…e543backed Nova Esports57c203.33$116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86.947455.4%41 W · 33 L-0.2wins0.00per pick56cpaid-14.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf133…928dbacked Wolves Esports45c203$91 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$91.35633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.0wins-0.17per pick50cpaid-45%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x33f0…b7aebacked Nova Esports55c200$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$902661.5%16 W · 10 L-0.7wins-0.03per pick64cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x953f…15e6backed Nova Esports74c196.89$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.046852.9%36 W · 32 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-6.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb758…dd73backed Wolves Esports61c195.32$119 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.1525347%119 W · 134 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1c94…5b86backed Nova Esports39c192.68$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$117.532744.4%12 W · 15 L+4.0wins+0.15per pick30cpaid+45.6%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x3cf5…8483backed Wolves Esports51c191.01$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.053650%18 W · 18 L-4.2wins-0.12per pick62cpaid-20.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9630…4005backed Nova Esports50c178.82$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.11366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.6wins+0.19per pick48cpaid+101.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb777…3ff9backed Nova Esports42c167.02$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96.875349.1%26 W · 27 L-1.9wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-11%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf451…9701backed Wolves Esports59c165.32$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.54520%1 W · 4 L-1.7wins-0.33per pick53cpaid-73%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xf98a…f376backed Wolves Esports60c162.78$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.6560%3 W · 2 L+0.1wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+8.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xcd1f…2bd0backed Nova Esports40c159.57$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$95.741338.5%5 W · 8 L+0.7wins+0.05per pick33cpaid+30%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf21d…2e9abacked Wolves Esports42c136.01$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.7726758.8%157 W · 110 L+18.8wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+16.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x8afa…28f0backed Nova Esports51c132.97$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.1614254.9%78 W · 64 L+8.6wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+11.8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Wolves Esports17c125.75$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.4923146.8%108 W · 123 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-10.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xbb8e…08c1backed Wolves Esports41c121.79$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.2299846%459 W · 539 L-27.0wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-13.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xec69…6fbabacked Wolves Esports36c118.63$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.7135142.5%149 W · 202 L-14.6wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-18.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x4584…5473backed Wolves Esports33c115.87$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.272941.4%12 W · 17 L+1.6wins+0.05per pick36cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8a3d…316cbacked Nova Esports40c115.68$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$69.4123548.5%114 W · 121 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbd14…76b4backed Nova Esports44c111.72$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.567655.3%42 W · 34 L+4.2wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0fde…0258backed Nova Esports51c109.68$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.7417557.1%100 W · 75 L+15.2wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+16.9%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x596a…7a0fbacked Nova Esports39c105.97$41 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.6454439.9%217 W · 327 L+12.7wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x081a…66d0backed Nova Esports43c103.96$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$59.263345.5%15 W · 18 L+1.5wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+0.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x989e…6529backed Nova Esports56c100$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+9.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x43d7…1c75backed Nova Esports39c99.98$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.9910142.6%43 W · 58 L-0.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9ba2…6b6cbacked Wolves Esports59c99.19$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.5216858.9%99 W · 69 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0caa…b2bdbacked Wolves Esports56c97.36$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.5214959.7%89 W · 60 L+11.1wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+17.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xadd5…ce89backed Nova Esports41c91.53$38 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54683.3%5 W · 1 L+2.3wins+0.38per pick45cpaid+81.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x961a…e91cbacked Wolves Esports27c88.54$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.91520%1 W · 4 L-1.0wins-0.21per pick41cpaid-35.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2c64…929abacked Nova Esports59c87.26$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.033354.5%18 W · 15 L+0.7wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5747…7fdfbacked Wolves Esports45c85.44$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.7662856.4%354 W · 274 L-10.6wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9a19…1e2ebacked Nova Esports64c82.9$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.841100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.36per pick64cpaid+56.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xbc64…fc2bbacked Wolves Esports62c80.38$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.8418653.8%100 W · 86 L-7.2wins-0.04per pick58cpaid-4.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1b3e…5bc0backed Wolves Esports61c80.05$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.836250%31 W · 31 L-4.7wins-0.08per pick58cpaid-13.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x55e7…4fb9backed Nova Esports39c74.11$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.218134.6%28 W · 53 L-6.0wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-13.8%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4627…7c23backed Wolves Esports61c73.6$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.8922955%126 W · 103 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+4.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5fa6…03ebbacked Nova Esports40c69.98$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.9919943.7%87 W · 112 L+4.5wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3db2…be55backed Wolves Esports59c66.13$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.02728.6%2 W · 5 L-2.5wins-0.36per pick64cpaid-59.1%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xdcc0…6872backed Wolves Esports60c63.01$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.813759.5%22 W · 15 L+1.5wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1c1d…14cdbacked Wolves Esports35c60$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2110%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.35per pick35cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7edb…7993backed Nova Esports47c55.51$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.3626932.3%87 W · 182 L-25.7wins-0.10per pick42cpaid-42.6%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x842e…9173backed Wolves Esports36c53.69$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.3312556.8%71 W · 54 L+7.6wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+13.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed Wolves Esports41c51.46$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.9857517.7%102 W · 473 L-71.7wins-0.12per pick30cpaid-42.2%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Valorant and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.