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Lol · resolved market

LoL: MVK Esports vs GAM Esports - Game 4 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
MVK Esportsof MVK Esports, GAM Esports
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$66,570
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$77,380

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $66,570 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 133 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xe59f…0d08backed GAM Esports11c7,467$842 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$842.39941.4%41 W · 58 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick40cpaid+5.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb35f…cf4cbacked GAM Esports32c4,504$1,449 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,449.0644846.2%207 W · 241 L+1.4wins0.00per pick46cpaid-14.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3186…e9cabacked MVK Esports65c3,129$2,045 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,084.091,53662.6%961 W · 575 L+157.8wins+0.10per pick52cpaid+8.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x9e3e…f882backed GAM Esports33c2,110$695 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$695.221,11339%434 W · 679 L-44.6wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-22.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xecb7…e8e5backed GAM Esports1c2,000$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20462.2%1 W · 45 L-1.5wins-0.03per pick5cpaid-84.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa45a…02e5backed MVK Esports77c1,952$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$451.635647.5%169 W · 187 L+0.6wins0.00per pick47cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x86b1…c094backed GAM Esports20c1,941$388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387.621,05628.5%301 W · 755 L+21.3wins+0.02per pick26cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed MVK Esports71c1,806$1,288 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$517.931,38937.7%524 W · 865 L-45.7wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-22.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe881…19abbacked GAM Esports1c1,700$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$174314.9%21 W · 410 L-1.8wins0.00per pick5cpaid-86.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x141a…d05abacked MVK Esports66c1,512$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$511.6321968%149 W · 70 L+28.8wins+0.13per pick55cpaid+38.5%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed GAM Esports62c1,500$930 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9301,43557.4%824 W · 611 L+36.0wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc397…bb3bbacked MVK Esports75c1,326$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$325.51,66359.5%990 W · 673 L+98.5wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+10.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd29b…96adbacked MVK Esports76c1,307$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$307.416366.3%108 W · 55 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick64cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed GAM Esports2c1,300$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.51,5173.3%50 W · 1,467 L-53.9wins-0.04per pick7cpaid-74.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf163…ca34backed GAM Esports26c1,203$311 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$310.821,47748.3%713 W · 764 L+45.1wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd17a…9900backed MVK Esports37c1,084$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$683.592343.5%10 W · 13 L0.0wins0.00per pick43cpaid+2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5b57…de6bbacked MVK Esports38c1,000$380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62020946.4%97 W · 112 L+5.2wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+7.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked GAM Esports21c938.84$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.541,97130.5%601 W · 1,370 L-170.0wins-0.09per pick39cpaid-43.4%equal weight41-0.09 edge/pick
0x35b7…fbcfbacked GAM Esports8c916.32$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.6527367%183 W · 90 L+26.3wins+0.10per pick57cpaid+20.9%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x215a…7275backed GAM Esports29c899.82$263 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$262.9315534.8%54 W · 101 L+7.0wins+0.05per pick30cpaid+18%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7bcc…b4fabacked GAM Esports24c890.01$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21023549.4%116 W · 119 L+7.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+4.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x10ef…7d7bbacked MVK Esports67c884.05$594 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$289.6866559.5%396 W · 269 L+72.6wins+0.11per pick49cpaid+8.7%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xc6f8…7fa1backed GAM Esports62c802.39$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50077746.2%359 W · 418 L+18.8wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+6.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4aef…22d9backed GAM Esports57c799.99$456 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$455.9934568.7%237 W · 108 L+24.1wins+0.07per pick62cpaid+12.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x7771…009fbacked GAM Esports63c792.13$499 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.041,00748.2%485 W · 522 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbbd4…bdf9backed MVK Esports75c665.55$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$165.552065%13 W · 7 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick63cpaid-0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa514…9c8fbacked MVK Esports61c643.25$392 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$251.1514552.4%76 W · 69 L-0.7wins0.00per pick53cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc27f…2a25backed GAM Esports47c625.82$294 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$293.6796452.7%508 W · 456 L+37.6wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf52b…d547backed MVK Esports37c594.59$220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$374.5919054.2%103 W · 87 L+11.8wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+17.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x0587…c40bbacked MVK Esports46c569.8$265 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$304.9915446.8%72 W · 82 L+16.1wins+0.10per pick36cpaid+19.1%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xb3bc…46f8backed MVK Esports42c500$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29027340.7%111 W · 162 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa64f…bcf8backed GAM Esports61c499.96$305 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$304.9713067.7%88 W · 42 L+11.2wins+0.09per pick59cpaid+17.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x84d4…77a9backed MVK Esports70c476.38$333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$143.7321458.9%126 W · 88 L+12.8wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+12.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked MVK Esports40c473$189 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$284.031,31847.3%624 W · 694 L-31.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-17%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xce08…510bbacked GAM Esports62c376.62$234 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$233.891,21254.5%660 W · 552 L+52.0wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+9.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9473…cba4backed GAM Esports26c355.82$92 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.3753545.2%242 W · 293 L+0.9wins0.00per pick45cpaid-13.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8d21…b3cfbacked GAM Esports58c336.22$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.0135659%210 W · 146 L+21.2wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+10.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xb6b8…149bbacked MVK Esports35c334.54$118 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$216.779139.6%36 W · 55 L-0.1wins0.00per pick40cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe197…71ebbacked MVK Esports71c314.24$223 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$91.1327745.8%127 W · 150 L-12.9wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-14.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x307d…9163backed GAM Esports26c302$79 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.521,18352%615 W · 568 L-14.3wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x67be…6e09backed GAM Esports5c300$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1594144.6%420 W · 521 L-2.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-4.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3e83…00aabacked MVK Esports38c300$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1866533.8%22 W · 43 L-6.7wins-0.10per pick44cpaid-3.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xb27b…5d6ebacked MVK Esports39c299.99$116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18439048.2%188 W · 202 L+26.2wins+0.07per pick41cpaid+16.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5519…f7e1backed GAM Esports61c299.98$182 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$181.9915861.4%97 W · 61 L+11.9wins+0.08per pick54cpaid+14.4%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x9c57…4d10backed MVK Esports55c273.27$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$123.271631.3%5 W · 11 L-2.3wins-0.14per pick45cpaid-37%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x55f5…1e72backed GAM Esports22c270$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.434141.6%142 W · 199 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc1d9…5333backed MVK Esports75c267.49$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67.4958559.7%349 W · 236 L+28.5wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+7.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xb72c…4f96backed MVK Esports77c264.52$204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.0810556.2%59 W · 46 L+3.0wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc186…e96ebacked MVK Esports60c262.5$158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10515752.2%82 W · 75 L-0.2wins0.00per pick52cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xca5f…41f5backed GAM Esports19c255.18$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.7421155%116 W · 95 L+7.1wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+3.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed GAM Esports30c252.85$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.251,80639.1%707 W · 1,099 L-30.8wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-12%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked MVK Esports76c224.04$171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.291,67157.9%968 W · 703 L+70.6wins+0.04per pick54cpaid-0.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x84ce…6c4abacked MVK Esports37c218.35$81 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$137.3157347.6%273 W · 300 L+1.0wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1b59…0ba0backed GAM Esports25c208.8$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.223832.4%77 W · 161 L-12.2wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-14.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf2bb…3250backed MVK Esports75c207.47$156 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.8723053.9%124 W · 106 L+4.8wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x797b…26d2backed GAM Esports59c203.34$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.9710650%53 W · 53 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8cd2…648cbacked GAM Esports58c200$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11695048.5%461 W · 489 L+26.4wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+11.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked MVK Esports71c185.15$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54.211,89937.1%705 W · 1,194 L-113.9wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-32.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x755f…2cffbacked MVK Esports65c175$113 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.825162.9%158 W · 93 L+11.9wins+0.05per pick58cpaid+8.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed GAM Esports18c168.82$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.392,50839.8%999 W · 1,509 L-76.4wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-18.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6b23…04a3backed MVK Esports62c165.98$102 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.681,54354.8%845 W · 698 L+75.4wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+1.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf0ea…2f71backed GAM Esports58c163.78$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.993857.9%22 W · 16 L+3.0wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x294b…22d2backed GAM Esports65c153.85$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10056949.4%281 W · 288 L-0.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd43f…0bb0backed GAM Esports29c153.4$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.491,13030%339 W · 791 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick32cpaid-10.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x1df3…9ac3backed GAM Esports33c153.36$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.0342055%231 W · 189 L+22.9wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2aa5…ff32backed GAM Esports64c150.2$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.131,22549.6%607 W · 618 L+15.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4fb7…e9dbbacked GAM Esports42c143.38$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$605547.3%26 W · 29 L+4.1wins+0.08per pick40cpaid+21.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb4cd…c041backed MVK Esports69c137.16$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.0927461.7%169 W · 105 L+18.5wins+0.07per pick55cpaid+6.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xb891…969bbacked GAM Esports26c120$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.21,44713.3%192 W · 1,255 L-109.5wins-0.08per pick21cpaid-35.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x5008…9466backed GAM Esports30c112.74$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.0711535.7%41 W · 74 L-7.2wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-9.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked MVK Esports57c111$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.3685849.5%425 W · 433 L+6.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-11.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3db7…375cbacked GAM Esports12c107.05$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.8513014.6%19 W · 111 L-12.7wins-0.10per pick24cpaid-36%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xb978…fac0backed MVK Esports75c106.2$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.2213664%87 W · 49 L+10.2wins+0.08per pick56cpaid+15.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x114e…dcefbacked MVK Esports67c104.66$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34.669678.1%75 W · 21 L+12.2wins+0.13per pick65cpaid+16%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x3546…1a58backed GAM Esports29c103.45$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3016130.4%49 W · 112 L-0.8wins0.00per pick31cpaid+9.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc0e4…dd38backed MVK Esports44c101.31$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.0718165.7%119 W · 62 L+23.7wins+0.13per pick53cpaid+20.2%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0x8838…b9febacked GAM Esports30c101.27$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$303243.8%14 W · 18 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x75dc…6a1dbacked GAM Esports25c100$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2529331.4%92 W · 201 L-5.6wins-0.02per pick33cpaid-16.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4572…47e7backed MVK Esports34c100$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6621953.4%117 W · 102 L+14.5wins+0.07per pick47cpaid+13.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x849c…38c8backed MVK Esports76c100$76 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.13976.9%30 W · 9 L+4.9wins+0.12per pick64cpaid+15.3%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x30f6…004fbacked GAM Esports17c100$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.4117632.4%57 W · 119 L-15.6wins-0.09per pick41cpaid-28.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x4e5c…6ad7backed GAM Esports26c99.99$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$264829.2%14 W · 34 L-3.7wins-0.08per pick37cpaid-24.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x077e…1fb0backed MVK Esports33c99.94$33 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.9618658.1%108 W · 78 L+9.6wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+14.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x0280…da32backed GAM Esports21c99$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.7913051.5%67 W · 63 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked GAM Esports31c96.95$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.291,92242.2%811 W · 1,111 L-45.6wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-22.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd1d…6f23backed GAM Esports62c95.56$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.2540549.1%199 W · 206 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed GAM Esports37c87$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.623,13133.8%1,058 W · 2,073 L-150.7wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-34.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked MVK Esports41c86$36 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.431,06347.2%502 W · 561 L-2.8wins0.00per pick47cpaid-14.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked MVK Esports69c84$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2694444.4%419 W · 525 L-31.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-20.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x88f2…a6c1backed MVK Esports79c82.71$65 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.5221254.2%115 W · 97 L+6.0wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+6.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9a60…a744backed GAM Esports25c80$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2052945.9%243 W · 286 L+11.2wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+6.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfdf1…2960backed MVK Esports44c79.55$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.5516444.5%73 W · 91 L-5.0wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-13.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xab6c…227bbacked MVK Esports38c79.26$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.266744.8%30 W · 37 L-6.0wins-0.09per pick54cpaid-14.8%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x20d7…2485backed GAM Esports19c77.12$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.389130.8%28 W · 63 L-5.2wins-0.06per pick36cpaid-24.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x88a9…e618backed MVK Esports39c76.92$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.9213349.6%66 W · 67 L+4.0wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf4b0…d8dbbacked MVK Esports39c76.92$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.9210150.5%51 W · 50 L+2.8wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb627…2d13backed GAM Esports65c76.92$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5051552.6%271 W · 244 L-0.9wins0.00per pick53cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xea7e…2c67backed MVK Esports80c72.12$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.6145051.6%232 W · 218 L+24.7wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+3.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa58f…cec8backed MVK Esports75c71.8$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.958265.9%54 W · 28 L+6.7wins+0.08per pick58cpaid+10.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x2cb5…819abacked MVK Esports70c70.29$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.2911152.3%58 W · 53 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 9 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.