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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: (monkey) Business vs Zero Tenacity (BO3) - EPL Championship Playoffs

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Zero Tenacityof (monkey) Business, Zero Tenacity
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$67,311
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$78,930

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $67,311 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 127 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x26f8…3452backed Zero Tenacity58c9,755$5,658 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,09715457.1%88 W · 66 L-0.3wins0.00per pick57cpaid-4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6fd3…3d7abacked (monkey) Business54c5,194$2,798 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,797.9429047.9%139 W · 151 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4ffe…9f71backed (monkey) Business1c3,733$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.946169.7%60 W · 556 L-2.0wins0.00per pick10cpaid-53.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb077…8fe8backed (monkey) Business53c2,840$1,499 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,499.4819148.7%93 W · 98 L-5.6wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-4.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x882c…a26fbacked (monkey) Business11c2,400$268 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2685756.1%32 W · 25 L+3.2wins+0.06per pick50cpaid-4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9e04…28a9backed Zero Tenacity46c2,358$1,094 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,264.2817651.1%90 W · 86 L+10.7wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+12.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x762d…45a6backed Zero Tenacity47c2,260$1,061 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,198.49955.6%55 W · 44 L+8.8wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+14.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x7437…e1e9backed (monkey) Business48c1,386$669 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$669.445135.3%18 W · 33 L-3.2wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-24.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked (monkey) Business30c1,220$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$360.3573841.7%308 W · 430 L-5.2wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc192…086cbacked (monkey) Business42c1,190$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50014538.6%56 W · 89 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick38cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked (monkey) Business42c1,187$499 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$498.712,37847.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L+15.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8046…a845backed (monkey) Business47c999.99$475 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$474.985950.8%30 W · 29 L+3.5wins+0.06per pick45cpaid-0.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xc42f…9390backed (monkey) Business56c949.63$531 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$531.099254.3%50 W · 42 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa824…c9fcbacked (monkey) Business37c946.8$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35018053.3%96 W · 84 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5cdf…1d29backed (monkey) Business47c926.79$431 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$431.251631.3%5 W · 11 L-2.0wins-0.12per pick44cpaid-10.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x85ce…d5f9backed (monkey) Business45c760.88$341 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$340.9220%0 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.36per pick36cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked (monkey) Business44c755.2$329 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$328.5586949%426 W · 443 L-3.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe9d4…e1d2backed Zero Tenacity53c753.89$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$353.892100%2 W · 0 L+1.1wins+0.57per pick43cpaid+148%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x7d20…07ecbacked (monkey) Business48c749$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$359.5210%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked Zero Tenacity47c737.51$349 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.651,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1f4f…46c2backed (monkey) Business42c700$294 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29436054.4%196 W · 164 L+12.1wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed (monkey) Business76c654.72$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.9947660.7%289 W · 187 L-0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x82bf…de71backed Zero Tenacity48c595.44$284 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$311.8154753.6%293 W · 254 L+22.9wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+2.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4521…00c3backed (monkey) Business42c592.86$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-25.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1cff…3984backed Zero Tenacity49c572.33$281 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$291.154148.8%20 W · 21 L+1.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xba05…f8c0backed Zero Tenacity53c518.83$275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$244.149133.6%165 W · 326 L+1.9wins0.00per pick33cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1ab6…078ebacked Zero Tenacity52c506.05$263 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$243.0511955.5%66 W · 53 L+10.3wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+20.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb569…6fe0backed Zero Tenacity48c500$240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26027548%132 W · 143 L-1.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x165e…f5aabacked Zero Tenacity53c469.73$249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$220.87540%2 W · 3 L-0.8wins-0.16per pick56cpaid-21.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc954…642fbacked Zero Tenacity50c469.04$234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$234.9216155.3%89 W · 72 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9a3f…914abacked Zero Tenacity80c456.55$363 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$93.315339.6%21 W · 32 L-6.5wins-0.12per pick52cpaid-31.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x63ad…790cbacked (monkey) Business23c434.78$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1002450%12 W · 12 L+2.0wins+0.09per pick41cpaid+28.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xba8d…14b6backed Zero Tenacity52c416$216 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$199.682100%2 W · 0 L+0.8wins+0.42per pick58cpaid+74.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2d79…899abacked (monkey) Business34c409.14$138 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$137.871136.4%4 W · 7 L-0.5wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-28%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2133…7903backed (monkey) Business5c400$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2034443.9%151 W · 193 L-0.5wins0.00per pick44cpaid-10.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9086…4d46backed Zero Tenacity50c397.2$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.21428.6%4 W · 10 L-3.8wins-0.27per pick56cpaid-51.1%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed Zero Tenacity51c390.85$199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$191.6766662.2%414 W · 252 L+60.2wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked (monkey) Business41c347.35$143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1431,90147.6%905 W · 996 L+4.6wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0be3…7180backed Zero Tenacity52c333$173 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$159.841100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.48per pick52cpaid+92.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf457…d1a6backed Zero Tenacity63c319.19$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$119.1912459.7%74 W · 50 L+4.6wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+8.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7705…3365backed (monkey) Business45c305.76$136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$136.16933.3%3 W · 6 L-1.3wins-0.14per pick47cpaid-31.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x260c…7130backed (monkey) Business47c299.99$141 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1413043.3%13 W · 17 L+2.6wins+0.09per pick35cpaid+4.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x8cfc…4f30backed (monkey) Business42c274.01$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.0237745.4%171 W · 206 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x64a8…7bc3backed Zero Tenacity68c255.17$174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$80.9914661%89 W · 57 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick59cpaid-3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x788d…99bbbacked (monkey) Business37c250$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.5757.1%4 W · 3 L+1.2wins+0.17per pick40cpaid+16.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xff7c…82b5backed (monkey) Business39c246.12$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.05825%2 W · 6 L-1.2wins-0.15per pick40cpaid-27.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfadf…dda0backed (monkey) Business42c238.1$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10029245.9%134 W · 158 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-1.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x727d…1589backed (monkey) Business14c232.81$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.568037.5%30 W · 50 L-3.5wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-19.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x26e7…c6e2backed (monkey) Business21c232.71$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.56425%1 W · 3 L-1.1wins-0.28per pick53cpaid-62.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xbed0…3c7dbacked Zero Tenacity61c232.22$142 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.2213557.8%78 W · 57 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1dd0…389fbacked Zero Tenacity65c220.26$143 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$77.26475%3 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.12per pick63cpaid+17.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x67c3…0e36backed (monkey) Business23c219.05$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5112965.1%84 W · 45 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick63cpaid-0.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x36e1…2a56backed (monkey) Business29c200$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.410%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.29per pick29cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6dc0…699abacked (monkey) Business23c200$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4664123.4%150 W · 491 L-18.6wins-0.03per pick26cpaid-22.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xcb79…6274backed (monkey) Business29c200$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.517152%89 W · 82 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-11.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe145…b8f7backed (monkey) Business53c190.62$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.85955.6%5 W · 4 L+0.6wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+25.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe1fc…bcdfbacked (monkey) Business42c180.95$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick51cpaid+37%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1e52…91d6backed (monkey) Business32c180$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57.68728.7%25 W · 62 L-8.5wins-0.10per pick38cpaid-38.3%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xa13a…c8f6backed Zero Tenacity63c178.56$113 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.49250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.12per pick62cpaid-21%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb8ab…f5c1backed (monkey) Business56c177.89$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10013157.3%75 W · 56 L-0.4wins0.00per pick58cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe99e…0084backed Zero Tenacity56c177.46$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$77.4687645.7%400 W · 476 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x20b2…f114backed (monkey) Business54c172.48$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93.1415131.8%48 W · 103 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick33cpaid+2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x936f…7f75backed (monkey) Business44c170$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$74.55350.9%27 W · 26 L-2.6wins-0.05per pick56cpaid-12.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x02d7…0c39backed (monkey) Business49c164.23$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8020530.7%63 W · 142 L-0.4wins0.00per pick31cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x126f…4cddbacked (monkey) Business13c160.94$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21540%2 W · 3 L0.0wins0.00per pick40cpaid-26.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe092…477cbacked Zero Tenacity65c152.69$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.69650%3 W · 3 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-26.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6438…255bbacked Zero Tenacity66c150.5$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.52657.7%15 W · 11 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-7.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcfbf…5d35backed (monkey) Business23c145.87$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.55540%2 W · 3 L0.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-40.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3036…15c2backed (monkey) Business52c145.23$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$754050%20 W · 20 L-1.3wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-2.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x325f…4511backed (monkey) Business17c145.17$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.821145.5%5 W · 6 L+1.2wins+0.11per pick35cpaid+44.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x873d…97b5backed (monkey) Business39c140$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$553525.7%9 W · 26 L-0.6wins-0.02per pick27cpaid-15.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x92b5…2defbacked (monkey) Business32c135$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.8595841.1%394 W · 564 L+32.7wins+0.03per pick38cpaid+1.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9723…db9fbacked (monkey) Business42c130.95$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5510%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.42per pick42cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4a8d…e5e6backed Zero Tenacity55c113$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.85475%3 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.24per pick51cpaid+55.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc7a0…05c4backed (monkey) Business54c111.2$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6010%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.54per pick54cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed (monkey) Business36c110$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.163032.5%205 W · 425 L+1.4wins0.00per pick32cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x81a4…da1fbacked Zero Tenacity55c109.09$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.095837.9%22 W · 36 L-5.8wins-0.10per pick48cpaid-23.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xbfd6…ab3dbacked Zero Tenacity54c107.41$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.7112843.8%56 W · 72 L+2.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+6.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb207…c751backed (monkey) Business29c105.68$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.96366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.14per pick53cpaid+6.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x56fc…affbbacked Zero Tenacity61c101$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.3925547.8%122 W · 133 L-4.5wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-14.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3e47…a7abbacked (monkey) Business45c100$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$453151.6%16 W · 15 L-2.1wins-0.07per pick59cpaid-12.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6b38…4d61backed (monkey) Business42c100$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4212229.5%36 W · 86 L-18.2wins-0.15per pick44cpaid-41.2%equal weight36-0.12 edge/pick
0x687c…8c91backed (monkey) Business36c100$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.2514254.2%77 W · 65 L+7.2wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+1.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x8ee3…c358backed Zero Tenacity76c98.7$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.562100%2 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.24per pick76cpaid+31.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x425f…0f7abacked (monkey) Business51c98.04$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5018154.7%99 W · 82 L-5.0wins-0.03per pick57cpaid-3.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xa4bd…e8a2backed Zero Tenacity55c94.97$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.9234063.2%215 W · 125 L+38.9wins+0.11per pick52cpaid+13%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xaaa6…f3b0backed Zero Tenacity55c94.02$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.221650%8 W · 8 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-12.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe2bb…ea55backed (monkey) Business43c90$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.75356.6%30 W · 23 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd6ee…37a2backed Zero Tenacity69c90$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.2366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.7wins+0.22per pick45cpaid+63.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8b32…3b0abacked Zero Tenacity59c85.25$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.253852.6%20 W · 18 L0.0wins0.00per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd0b0…ad2cbacked Zero Tenacity65c82.43$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.8521062.4%131 W · 79 L+5.3wins+0.03per pick60cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xa3d4…6297backed (monkey) Business14c79.66$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.243839.5%15 W · 23 L-3.6wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-31.1%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xdbc8…d266backed (monkey) Business46c69.35$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.725844.8%26 W · 32 L-7.6wins-0.13per pick58cpaid-22.8%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x3a3f…38e4backed (monkey) Business34c67.48$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.012142.9%9 W · 12 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick40cpaid-6.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4d86…58d7backed (monkey) Business57c66.67$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38771.4%5 W · 2 L+1.4wins+0.19per pick52cpaid+54.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0cd9…2a08backed (monkey) Business51c64.68$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.9252243.9%229 W · 293 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6bea…5d50backed Zero Tenacity46c60$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.447748.6%232 W · 245 L+6.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xace6…5556backed Zero Tenacity53c58.6$31 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.623347.2%110 W · 123 L-15.1wins-0.06per pick54cpaid-11.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xdf50…aca0backed (monkey) Business45c57.14$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.711127.3%3 W · 8 L-2.2wins-0.20per pick47cpaid-43.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa750…0d0fbacked Zero Tenacity57c55$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.4537754.9%207 W · 170 L+20.9wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+9.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.