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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: MOUZ vs Tundra Esports (BO3) - DreamLeague Stage 2

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Tundra Esportsof MOUZ, Tundra Esports
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$191,181
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$235,052

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $191,181 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 238 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf9b5…09eebacked MOUZ37c19,796$7,367 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,366.6755157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3833…33d1backed MOUZ40c18,750$7,496 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,496.2642650%213 W · 213 L+4.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed Tundra Esports60c15,555$9,333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,22232854.9%180 W · 148 L+11.8wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x06c0…e618backed Tundra Esports64c11,057$7,051 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,005.575761.4%35 W · 22 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick62cpaid+1.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed MOUZ40c4,955$1,982 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,981.9710445.2%47 W · 57 L+0.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6304…e570backed MOUZ37c4,384$1,622 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,622.0227645.3%125 W · 151 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-10.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x084b…3de6backed Tundra Esports64c3,913$2,490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,423.2210741.1%44 W · 63 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-18.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3eee…e8b6backed Tundra Esports76c3,717$2,817 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$900.275280.8%42 W · 10 L+8.6wins+0.17per pick64cpaid+27.5%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x2307…3934backed Tundra Esports63c3,485$2,196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,289.4522848.2%110 W · 118 L-4.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-7.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdb63…a71dbacked Tundra Esports60c3,333$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,333.3320159.7%120 W · 81 L+9.9wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+7.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x115f…e217backed MOUZ37c3,167$1,172 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,171.645747.4%27 W · 30 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x66fb…9f72backed Tundra Esports63c3,151$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,150.7854556.5%308 W · 237 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed MOUZ36c3,000$1,080 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,08089440.3%360 W · 534 L+1.3wins0.00per pick40cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x40f8…327dbacked MOUZ35c2,930$1,036 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,036.3211839.8%47 W · 71 L-7.5wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-13.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed MOUZ35c2,633$934 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$934.0877941.1%320 W · 459 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Tundra Esports63c2,324$1,456 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$868.412,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b75…f8fabacked MOUZ40c2,236$895 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$894.52646.2%12 W · 14 L-1.6wins-0.06per pick52cpaid-14.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Tundra Esports69c2,038$1,410 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$628.0530138.9%117 W · 184 L-20.3wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-32.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xcd43…88d7backed MOUZ25c2,025$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50010334%35 W · 68 L-5.0wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-14.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed Tundra Esports61c2,011$1,227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$783.679959.4%475 W · 324 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick59cpaid-2.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed MOUZ36c2,000$720 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72081029.4%238 W · 572 L-23.5wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-10.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Tundra Esports65c1,975$1,293 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$681.751,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Tundra Esports78c1,900$1,477 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$422.8796557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x7951…bb41backed MOUZ33c1,828$610 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$609.764744.4%287 W · 360 L+13.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9ae8…c2a8backed Tundra Esports60c1,780$1,068 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71213045.4%59 W · 71 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-4.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed MOUZ24c1,661$403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$402.722,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed MOUZ37c1,400$518 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51858744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2698…0958backed MOUZ36c1,400$504 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50413441.8%56 W · 78 L-6.9wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-17.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf092…4ebabacked Tundra Esports66c1,367$900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$466.964856.3%27 W · 21 L-0.9wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8052…1124backed Tundra Esports65c1,363$879 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$483.6917146.8%80 W · 91 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x30db…07c3backed MOUZ27c1,279$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35054445.8%249 W · 295 L-10.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4afb…ed2bbacked MOUZ33c1,246$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$406.01944.4%4 W · 5 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-25%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Tundra Esports78c1,231$959 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272.11,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1e52…91d6backed MOUZ31c1,214$376 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$376.158728.7%25 W · 62 L-8.5wins-0.10per pick38cpaid-38.3%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x3b89…1069backed Tundra Esports60c1,168$701 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$467.215653.8%84 W · 72 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7272…1b61backed MOUZ3c1,100$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311216.7%2 W · 10 L-2.6wins-0.22per pick39cpaid-75.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x17ca…87d1backed Tundra Esports70c1,093$765 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$327.8119552.8%103 W · 92 L-15.2wins-0.08per pick61cpaid-15%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed MOUZ1c1,075$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.26132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1c02…7fdcbacked Tundra Esports66c1,010$666 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$343.251266.7%8 W · 4 L-0.6wins-0.05per pick72cpaid-9.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked MOUZ36c959$345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$345.2485851.3%440 W · 418 L+30.8wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4c52…e75fbacked MOUZ7c950$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.3413732.8%45 W · 92 L+8.0wins+0.06per pick27cpaid-15.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x17cd…7423backed Tundra Esports62c923.6$571 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$352.7411947.1%56 W · 63 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+15.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xabe0…0263backed MOUZ2c878.92$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.41560%9 W · 6 L+2.9wins+0.19per pick41cpaid+23.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0cd9…2a08backed MOUZ22c875.7$197 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$196.5852243.9%229 W · 293 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2eff…30d6backed MOUZ35c822.86$288 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28810%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.35per pick35cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdca4…1c68backed MOUZ37c817.7$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30064149.9%320 W · 321 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed Tundra Esports64c809.89$518 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$291.5666662.2%414 W · 252 L+60.2wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xf457…d1a6backed MOUZ37c801.16$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30012459.7%74 W · 50 L+4.6wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+8.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8ef0…9bcabacked Tundra Esports71c765.55$543 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.831100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.29per pick71cpaid+41.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked MOUZ27c758.41$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.951,15547.8%552 W · 603 L+29.5wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf801…901cbacked MOUZ33c748.14$247 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$246.893834.2%13 W · 25 L-2.8wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-19.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc49b…a5b8backed Tundra Esports67c746.37$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.378655.8%48 W · 38 L-0.4wins0.00per pick56cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0c67…d062backed MOUZ22c736.5$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$159.031,13742.3%481 W · 656 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x028a…f485backed MOUZ28c733.53$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2021526.7%4 W · 11 L-1.6wins-0.11per pick37cpaid-56.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x0738…6392backed Tundra Esports69c724.64$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$224.6421264.2%136 W · 76 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick63cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked MOUZ36c682.99$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$248.9360542.6%258 W · 347 L-14.6wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-7.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf7c7…620cbacked Tundra Esports65c680$442 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2388544.7%38 W · 47 L-3.8wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xcbf4…e3a6backed MOUZ36c657.8$237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$236.819345.2%42 W · 51 L+5.4wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+14.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed Tundra Esports62c627.96$389 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$238.6380443.9%353 W · 451 L-1.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd37a…2358backed MOUZ36c624.27$223 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$222.7422945.9%105 W · 124 L-6.0wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x249f…fed3backed MOUZ32c623.96$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.7862650.5%316 W · 310 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked MOUZ25c617$153 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$152.9814121.3%30 W · 111 L-10.5wins-0.07per pick29cpaid-60.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x563b…774bbacked Tundra Esports66c604.59$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$204.594060%24 W · 16 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick62cpaid-6.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4bfc…ce53backed Tundra Esports73c599.99$438 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16211647.4%55 W · 61 L-6.3wins-0.05per pick53cpaid-16.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x3b63…4acdbacked MOUZ36c597.22$215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21516248.8%79 W · 83 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5554…98f9backed Tundra Esports67c597.01$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.016066.7%40 W · 20 L+3.6wins+0.06per pick61cpaid+6.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe98e…a046backed MOUZ37c586.27$217 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$216.924438.6%17 W · 27 L-2.7wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6a06…31d8backed Tundra Esports61c575.41$351 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$224.4141655.3%230 W · 186 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-6.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xdb88…b1d7backed MOUZ41c560.03$232 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$232.153228.1%9 W · 23 L-1.4wins-0.04per pick32cpaid+6.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc371…1e28backed Tundra Esports69c554.98$381 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$173.98950.6%45 W · 44 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-9.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xac5d…d45fbacked MOUZ2c550$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119535.8%34 W · 61 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-22.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1b12…5f8fbacked MOUZ40c547.89$219 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$219.1629548.5%143 W · 152 L+0.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7032…0a8bbacked Tundra Esports60c541.67$325 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$216.6755251.6%285 W · 267 L+10.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xad69…7397backed MOUZ16c532.72$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.9151140.3%206 W · 305 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1f4f…46c2backed Tundra Esports66c513.61$338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$175.1536054.4%196 W · 164 L+12.1wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked MOUZ41c512.62$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21053844.4%239 W · 299 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x018c…9794backed MOUZ39c509.43$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2003161.3%19 W · 12 L+1.8wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+13.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x13e9…7cd4backed MOUZ35c504.59$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1769045.6%41 W · 49 L+3.7wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+15.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed MOUZ17c500$87 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.2841050.2%206 W · 204 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4946…89d0backed Tundra Esports64c500$320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1804967.3%33 W · 16 L+4.7wins+0.10per pick58cpaid+9.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5454…ceadbacked Tundra Esports61c478.11$291 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$186.968543.5%37 W · 48 L-4.4wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-6.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9d2a…9ee3backed Tundra Esports63c465.46$293 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$172.222972.4%21 W · 8 L+5.3wins+0.18per pick54cpaid+40.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x64a8…7bc3backed MOUZ23c460.18$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.6514661%89 W · 57 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick59cpaid-3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe81c…a724backed Tundra Esports65c460$299 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1614763.8%30 W · 17 L+2.6wins+0.06per pick58cpaid+9.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x498c…6f4dbacked MOUZ40c437$174 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17420%0 W · 2 L-0.8wins-0.40per pick40cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbda6…6ae0backed Tundra Esports69c412$284 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.7436051.9%187 W · 173 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x58c9…e194backed Tundra Esports62c402.55$248 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.474035%14 W · 26 L-3.7wins-0.09per pick44cpaid-28.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x20b2…f114backed MOUZ35c371.43$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13015131.8%48 W · 103 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick33cpaid+2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf393…9b65backed Tundra Esports76c365.99$279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.187650%38 W · 38 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-5.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdede…92d0backed Tundra Esports65c358.51$232 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$126.181283.3%10 W · 2 L+1.6wins+0.14per pick70cpaid+20.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5b64…eaf4backed Tundra Esports70c336.93$237 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.0217740.7%72 W · 105 L-11.0wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-25.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x16ea…6df7backed MOUZ22c330.59$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.9612720.5%26 W · 101 L-22.6wins-0.18per pick38cpaid-62.9%equal weight34-0.15 edge/pick
0xed10…15edbacked Tundra Esports61c330$201 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$128.788166.7%588 W · 293 L+76.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+12.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xb279…2c15backed Tundra Esports79c320.07$253 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67.22757.1%4 W · 3 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick60cpaid-16.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfadf…dda0backed Tundra Esports64c310.36$199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$111.7329245.9%134 W · 158 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-1.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xec61…4a2ebacked MOUZ36c300$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10810941.3%45 W · 64 L-3.8wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-15.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x02d7…0c39backed MOUZ21c300$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6420530.7%63 W · 142 L-0.4wins0.00per pick31cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4867…e1dcbacked MOUZ24c299.99$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.994639.1%18 W · 28 L-2.4wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-17.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x766c…bb56backed MOUZ35c287.62$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100616.7%1 W · 5 L-1.8wins-0.30per pick47cpaid-76.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xbd1e…ff14backed Tundra Esports63c282$178 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.3411253.6%60 W · 52 L-1.9wins-0.02per pick55cpaid+2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.