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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Team Resilience vs Team Yandex - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Yandexof Team Resilience, Team Yandex
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$278,209
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$376,716

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $278,209 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 127 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xabf5…cfebbacked Team Resilience28c28,749$8,044 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,043.9130%0 W · 3 L-1.1wins-0.38per pick38cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8002…8b6cbacked Team Yandex78c27,144$21,188 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,956.353250%16 W · 16 L-3.1wins-0.10per pick60cpaid-23.8%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x6b60…edbebacked Team Yandex72c23,263$16,758 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,504.784837.5%18 W · 30 L-7.9wins-0.16per pick54cpaid-31.8%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x66b1…6b9dbacked Team Yandex78c15,611$12,238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,373.069339.8%37 W · 56 L-0.4wins0.00per pick40cpaid-19.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2146…d41bbacked Team Resilience20c15,575$3,152 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,152.4589741.5%372 W · 525 L+22.7wins+0.03per pick39cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd63…050fbacked Team Resilience25c10,000$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,5003951.3%20 W · 19 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-8.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xadea…b96dbacked Team Resilience11c9,150$997 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$997.49731.4%1 W · 72 L-7.1wins-0.10per pick11cpaid-91.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xfa88…85a5backed Team Yandex71c9,000$6,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,60069644.5%310 W · 386 L-3.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x84fb…675ebacked Team Resilience25c8,683$2,171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,170.755834.5%20 W · 38 L-3.9wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-20.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb3a4…6c3ebacked Team Resilience11c8,000$880 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8805137.3%19 W · 32 L-3.0wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-21.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1c01…e7d0backed Team Resilience29c5,570$1,640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,640.3212350.4%62 W · 61 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf7c2…9b8dbacked Team Resilience26c4,273$1,111 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,11125549%125 W · 130 L+9.4wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+7.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc949…fa93backed Team Resilience25c4,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0008242.7%35 W · 47 L-8.2wins-0.10per pick53cpaid-22.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x3a95…343bbacked Team Resilience16c4,000$640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64069835.2%246 W · 452 L+15.7wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7414…72a3backed Team Yandex74c4,000$2,960 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0403633.3%12 W · 24 L-5.8wins-0.16per pick49cpaid-24.4%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x57b4…b46bbacked Team Yandex70c3,990$2,793 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,197.0524246.7%113 W · 129 L-4.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xad69…7397backed Team Resilience25c3,443$861 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$860.7851140.3%206 W · 305 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Team Resilience16c3,193$515 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$515.471143%306 W · 405 L-3.9wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-14.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x57f1…5ecfbacked Team Resilience28c3,130$883 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8836642.4%28 W · 38 L-3.0wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xbbd9…de31backed Team Yandex73c2,753$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$753.3214258.5%83 W · 59 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd6db…2f0dbacked Team Yandex77c2,349$1,814 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$534.731361.5%8 W · 5 L+1.5wins+0.12per pick50cpaid+34%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xd3bc…5bd2backed Team Resilience32c2,188$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70013943.9%61 W · 78 L-11.8wins-0.08per pick52cpaid-17.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked Team Resilience26c2,158$561 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$561.0396645.1%436 W · 530 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-13.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xec69…6fbabacked Team Resilience24c2,133$508 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$508.1922543.6%98 W · 127 L-12.0wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-25.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x08b8…e7dabacked Team Resilience28c2,112$591 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$591.0731055.2%171 W · 139 L+12.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+8.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1311…d450backed Team Resilience25c2,100$525 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52521146.9%99 W · 112 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xba03…0486backed Team Resilience30c2,000$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6007234.7%25 W · 47 L-4.0wins-0.06per pick40cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Team Yandex75c1,636$1,227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$408.9332548.9%159 W · 166 L-7.5wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x958c…a328backed Team Resilience27c1,634$434 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$434.4728347%133 W · 150 L+10.9wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+9.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc69b…2076backed Team Resilience2c1,564$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.3318844.7%84 W · 104 L-5.2wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-21.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2117…5c26backed Team Yandex79c1,376$1,090 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$285.817648.3%85 W · 91 L-7.6wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-8.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed Team Resilience2c1,300$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.56132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x04f6…f24abacked Team Resilience30c1,111$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$333.350347.1%237 W · 266 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1568…2a89backed Team Resilience10c1,100$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1109122%20 W · 71 L-3.5wins-0.04per pick26cpaid-31.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x60ec…f7b0backed Team Resilience26c1,082$281 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$281.3150353.9%271 W · 232 L+26.7wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+4.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6eac…ed37backed Team Resilience29c1,000$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29057449%281 W · 293 L+33.5wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+12.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x1e89…af95backed Team Resilience29c999.99$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29014943.6%65 W · 84 L-5.8wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-9.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3308…f04bbacked Team Yandex74c997.44$741 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$256.1835850.6%181 W · 177 L+6.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid-10.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfbc6…9092backed Team Resilience5c958.01$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$508420.2%17 W · 67 L-5.3wins-0.06per pick27cpaid-35.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf32d…bbbbbacked Team Yandex75c906.67$680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$226.6761057.9%353 W · 257 L+2.8wins0.00per pick57cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed Team Resilience22c882$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.0477941.1%320 W · 459 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf34b…bcb3backed Team Resilience28c867.67$243 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242.9558356.8%331 W · 252 L+28.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+9.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xdbaf…f5d1backed Team Resilience26c836$217 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$217.3635737%132 W · 225 L-9.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-5.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8154…7d37backed Team Resilience26c787.99$207 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20720233.2%67 W · 135 L-3.9wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-2.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x14ca…8f43backed Team Resilience26c754$196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$196.0410743.9%47 W · 60 L+2.9wins+0.03per pick41cpaid-5.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdc40…89cfbacked Team Resilience21c720$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$151.236041.4%149 W · 211 L-22.2wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-12.7%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Team Resilience14c698.72$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.7766947.1%315 W · 354 L-10.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked Team Resilience16c628.35$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.791,70241.2%701 W · 1,001 L-44.0wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-26.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6129…0807backed Team Resilience26c560$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.63641.7%15 W · 21 L-3.4wins-0.09per pick51cpaid-20.1%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xc9f4…c1e4backed Team Resilience11c520.39$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.6742639.4%168 W · 258 L-39.9wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-31.6%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x274f…971abacked Team Yandex78c514.93$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$114.9314657.5%84 W · 62 L+0.2wins0.00per pick57cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7f88…c6e8backed Team Yandex79c514.2$406 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$108.3912335.8%44 W · 79 L-13.7wins-0.11per pick47cpaid-32.9%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked Team Resilience26c500$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13050749.7%252 W · 255 L+15.3wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xddb6…b9b3backed Team Resilience15c460.72$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.9558943%253 W · 336 L-25.9wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-25.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdb3d…9fc5backed Team Resilience30c433.9$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$130.173540%14 W · 21 L-1.8wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-15.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xed10…15edbacked Team Yandex71c420$298 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.888166.7%588 W · 293 L+76.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+12.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xd619…c461backed Team Resilience20c416$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.217040.6%69 W · 101 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+11.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93bd…bbc5backed Team Resilience6c412.32$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.7453764.4%346 W · 191 L+26.5wins+0.05per pick60cpaid+2.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x02fe…c5a5backed Team Resilience27c410.96$111 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$110.968740.2%35 W · 52 L+2.9wins+0.03per pick37cpaid+10%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9fe3…ca9dbacked Team Yandex74c406.97$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$107.418944.9%40 W · 49 L-6.1wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-19.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x28e0…2e6bbacked Team Yandex78c400$312 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8813258.3%77 W · 55 L+6.6wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+12.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x34ec…2711backed Team Resilience25c400$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10010039%39 W · 61 L-3.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-15.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb55e…735bbacked Team Resilience26c380$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.83129%9 W · 22 L-1.8wins-0.06per pick35cpaid-32.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb3f8…e0b1backed Team Resilience22c318.18$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7026343%113 W · 150 L+13.9wins+0.05per pick38cpaid+15.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf4da…3f9dbacked Team Resilience26c307.69$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$803026.7%8 W · 22 L-1.9wins-0.06per pick33cpaid-28.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4572…47e7backed Team Resilience5c300$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1540844.1%180 W · 228 L0.0wins0.00per pick44cpaid-4.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked Team Resilience13c297.97$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3856945.2%257 W · 312 L-18.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-22.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8b6f…aab3backed Team Yandex75c294.7$222 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72.742660.1%256 W · 170 L+19.0wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+1.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0e23…1c3dbacked Team Resilience17c290$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5011254.5%61 W · 51 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked Team Yandex74c281.39$207 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$73.9148539.2%190 W · 295 L-8.4wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked Team Resilience22c270.39$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.431,15447.7%550 W · 604 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-12.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x55d9…832cbacked Team Yandex74c256.58$190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.7141944.2%185 W · 234 L-1.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9bd2…b613backed Team Yandex78c256.41$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.414577.8%35 W · 10 L+4.1wins+0.09per pick69cpaid+17.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xc670…b781backed Team Yandex75c247.01$186 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.1618247.8%87 W · 95 L+9.2wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+14.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xb6c5…20d0backed Team Resilience28c195.88$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.3817537.1%65 W · 110 L-13.9wins-0.08per pick45cpaid-22.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xe99e…0084backed Team Resilience26c192.31$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5087645.7%400 W · 476 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x333e…538cbacked Team Resilience26c192.31$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$503354.5%18 W · 15 L+3.7wins+0.11per pick43cpaid+29.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe76d…5a75backed Team Yandex72c182$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.961,24844.4%554 W · 694 L+17.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3aa6…9c54backed Team Yandex71c140.24$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.671650%8 W · 8 L-1.5wins-0.09per pick59cpaid-6.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xb4cd…c041backed Team Resilience26c134.89$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.0713547.4%64 W · 71 L-4.8wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-11.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xef21…18babacked Team Resilience29c120.69$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$353831.6%12 W · 26 L-4.3wins-0.11per pick43cpaid-30.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1ed1…fd2abacked Team Resilience22c120$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.422738.3%87 W · 140 L-6.1wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-9.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc21b…36bbbacked Team Yandex78c115.91$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.919866.3%65 W · 33 L+2.9wins+0.03per pick63cpaid+5.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xeaae…ec88backed Team Resilience26c115.38$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3017146.8%80 W · 91 L+8.2wins+0.05per pick42cpaid+7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked Team Resilience10c113.47$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.6358746.5%273 W · 314 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-18.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7d8a…f907backed Team Yandex72c111.75$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.2914136.9%52 W · 89 L-13.3wins-0.09per pick46cpaid-27.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Team Yandex70c109.21$76 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.761,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8b9d…9b0ebacked Team Resilience10c100$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1031126%81 W · 230 L-17.5wins-0.06per pick32cpaid-37.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf1f2…8c8dbacked Team Resilience27c100$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.8442146.6%196 W · 225 L-1.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid-13.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfb8e…3dc3backed Team Resilience20c100$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$207030%21 W · 49 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick32cpaid+0.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x736d…c635backed Team Resilience20c100$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2097142.7%415 W · 556 L-20.4wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9aff…b136backed Team Resilience22c100$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2232445.1%146 W · 178 L+14.7wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed Team Resilience27c100$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.7562841.1%258 W · 370 L-17.8wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-18.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1973…9fb5backed Team Yandex70c100$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$306457.8%37 W · 27 L+4.1wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+12%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x75c5…5bbabacked Team Resilience20c100$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2021941.1%90 W · 129 L-6.5wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-11.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Team Yandex78c97.74$77 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.152,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x559b…4959backed Team Resilience24c92.11$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.118143.2%35 W · 46 L-1.4wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xff80…9b4dbacked Team Resilience26c87.76$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.8217444.8%78 W · 96 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-6.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x880e…dec8backed Team Resilience24c83.33$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$204847.9%23 W · 25 L+2.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+10.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2529…548abacked Team Yandex73c75$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.2530844.8%138 W · 170 L-5.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-14.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.