Dota2 · resolved market
Dota 2: South America Rejects vs L1ga Team - Game 2 Winner
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What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- South America Rejectsof South America Rejects, L1ga Team
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $45,971
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $52,545
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $45,971 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 78 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Dota2 | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0xd06c…cdafbacked L1ga Team | 34c | 4,451$1,518 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,518.24 | 1,186 | 43.2%512 W · 674 L | +42.2wins | +0.04per pick | 40cpaid | +1.9%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x913c…39b3backed South America Rejects | 70c | 3,719$2,605 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,113.95 | 714 | 54.5%389 W · 325 L | +55.6wins | +0.08per pick | 47cpaid | +7.9%equal weight | 58+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x84ad…bfb7backed South America Rejects | 69c | 3,518$2,442 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,075.9 | 457 | 50.8%232 W · 225 L | +14.3wins | +0.03per pick | 48cpaid | -5.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x2f2a…9c0abacked L1ga Team | 30c | 3,000$900 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$899.96 | 42 | 38.1%16 W · 26 L | -3.9wins | -0.09per pick | 47cpaid | -24.6%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x2924…0f31backed South America Rejects | 75c | 2,922$2,190 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$731.84 | 470 | 46.6%219 W · 251 L | +1.9wins | 0.00per pick | 46cpaid | -12.5%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf3ce…a57abacked South America Rejects | 72c | 2,893$2,096 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$796.83 | 1,202 | 59.3%713 W · 489 L | +64.6wins | +0.05per pick | 54cpaid | +10.4%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x30db…07c3backed L1ga Team | 35c | 2,753$961 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$960.95 | 544 | 45.8%249 W · 295 L | -10.5wins | -0.02per pick | 48cpaid | -7.8%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xcb5b…f243backed L1ga Team | 29c | 2,712$790 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$789.8 | 1,272 | 45%572 W · 700 L | -40.5wins | -0.03per pick | 48cpaid | -17.7%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xd3b0…329ebacked South America Rejects | 70c | 2,658$1,865 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$793.38 | 802 | 56%449 W · 353 L | +22.9wins | +0.03per pick | 53cpaid | +6.6%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x03f4…7e44backed South America Rejects | 64c | 2,500$1,606 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$893.73 | 568 | 52.5%298 W · 270 L | -5.6wins | -0.01per pick | 53cpaid | -4.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9d94…017dbacked South America Rejects | 66c | 2,228$1,480 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$748.05 | 1,521 | 37.9%576 W · 945 L | -57.8wins | -0.04per pick | 42cpaid | -26.5%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa35c…a113backed L1ga Team | 30c | 2,100$638 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$638.18 | 617 | 45.7%282 W · 335 L | -12.4wins | -0.02per pick | 48cpaid | -7.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf67d…c986backed L1ga Team | 35c | 1,958$690 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$690.17 | 390 | 42.1%164 W · 226 L | -2.9wins | -0.01per pick | 43cpaid | -3.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x31a4…7afcbacked L1ga Team | 33c | 1,550$512 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$511.5 | 953 | 42.2%402 W · 551 L | -20.7wins | -0.02per pick | 44cpaid | -5.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf3ef…ca6bbacked South America Rejects | 69c | 1,501$1,033 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$467.65 | 1,066 | 57%608 W · 458 L | +52.7wins | +0.05per pick | 52cpaid | +1.9%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x6628…05aebacked L1ga Team | 31c | 1,049$329 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$328.57 | 153 | 42.5%65 W · 88 L | +2.7wins | +0.02per pick | 41cpaid | +2.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x4133…165bbacked L1ga Team | 26c | 1,027$263 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$262.66 | 1,275 | 33.5%427 W · 848 L | -15.6wins | -0.01per pick | 35cpaid | -18.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x07fa…f5cdbacked L1ga Team | 29c | 750$218 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$217.5 | 462 | 40.7%188 W · 274 L | +15.4wins | +0.03per pick | 37cpaid | +9.9%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x1709…c148backed South America Rejects | 67c | 648.21$433 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$215.55 | 483 | 52.4%253 W · 230 L | -2.2wins | 0.00per pick | 53cpaid | -5.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xbfd7…f0bfbacked South America Rejects | 79c | 553.39$437 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$116.19 | 2,378 | 47.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L | +15.8wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -7.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3621…2d2dbacked South America Rejects | 71c | 545.88$388 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$158.31 | 55 | 58.2%32 W · 23 L | +7.6wins | +0.14per pick | 44cpaid | +65.4%equal weight | 61+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0xa042…5539backed South America Rejects | 67c | 500$335 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$165 | 174 | 54%94 W · 80 L | +7.2wins | +0.04per pick | 50cpaid | -4.8%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xe8e1…49ddbacked South America Rejects | 72c | 417.58$300 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$117.25 | 670 | 43.3%290 W · 380 L | -6.8wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -14%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x953f…15e6backed South America Rejects | 68c | 392.2$265 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$127.46 | 150 | 64.7%97 W · 53 L | +4.5wins | +0.03per pick | 62cpaid | +3%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x5028…91c5backed South America Rejects | 79c | 390$307 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$83.21 | 94 | 44.7%42 W · 52 L | +2.1wins | +0.02per pick | 42cpaid | +2.5%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x51db…f9b3backed South America Rejects | 76c | 386.86$293 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$93.7 | 2,828 | 43.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L | -39.5wins | -0.01per pick | 45cpaid | -20.9%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x77f2…eec6backed South America Rejects | 66c | 371.06$245 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$126.16 | 554 | 57.8%320 W · 234 L | +12.3wins | +0.02per pick | 56cpaid | +0.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xd4f9…f619backed South America Rejects | 62c | 358.73$221 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$137.24 | 147 | 51.7%76 W · 71 L | +11.1wins | +0.08per pick | 44cpaid | -1.1%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x2f03…77dcbacked L1ga Team | 33c | 310.81$104 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$103.76 | 292 | 40.4%118 W · 174 L | +8.4wins | +0.03per pick | 38cpaid | +1.6%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xd7f5…40d7backed L1ga Team | 30c | 300$90 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$90 | 41 | 41.5%17 W · 24 L | -0.5wins | -0.01per pick | 43cpaid | -11%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa0b0…ab95backed L1ga Team | 27c | 273.59$74 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$73.87 | 10 | 40%4 W · 6 L | -1.5wins | -0.15per pick | 55cpaid | -39%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x785d…4e88backed South America Rejects | 77c | 269.57$208 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$61.53 | 41 | 48.8%20 W · 21 L | +0.4wins | +0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf437…ff9bbacked L1ga Team | 29c | 256.6$75 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$74.69 | 321 | 48.3%155 W · 166 L | -6.1wins | -0.02per pick | 50cpaid | -5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6eac…ed37backed L1ga Team | 19c | 254.2$48 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$47.56 | 574 | 49%281 W · 293 L | +33.5wins | +0.06per pick | 43cpaid | +12.1%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x86c8…fc02backed South America Rejects | 79c | 237.94$188 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$50.1 | 306 | 47.4%145 W · 161 L | -2.4wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -9.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1365…c82abacked South America Rejects | 73c | 236.9$173 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$64.18 | 614 | 56%344 W · 270 L | +13.5wins | +0.02per pick | 54cpaid | +4.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6e63…9e38backed L1ga Team | 30c | 226.41$68 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$67.92 | 345 | 61.2%211 W · 134 L | +17.7wins | +0.05per pick | 56cpaid | +4.9%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x00f8…2c23backed L1ga Team | 25c | 216.2$54 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$53.95 | 305 | 34.4%105 W · 200 L | -14.3wins | -0.05per pick | 39cpaid | -15.5%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x6e59…beeebacked South America Rejects | 72c | 212.47$153 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$59.52 | 53 | 54.7%29 W · 24 L | +0.9wins | +0.02per pick | 53cpaid | -7.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xfabc…7178backed L1ga Team | 9c | 199.99$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$19 | 107 | 38.3%41 W · 66 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 38cpaid | -11.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2d87…df1dbacked L1ga Team | 18c | 195.2$35 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$35.04 | 13 | 46.2%6 W · 7 L | +1.0wins | +0.08per pick | 38cpaid | -7.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x6d4c…935ebacked South America Rejects | 66c | 174.74$115 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$59.41 | 26 | 19.2%5 W · 21 L | -6.1wins | -0.23per pick | 43cpaid | -67.8%equal weight | 37-0.12 edge/pick |
| 0x35e7…2f43backed L1ga Team | 30c | 168.73$51 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$51.23 | 36 | 41.7%15 W · 21 L | -0.6wins | -0.02per pick | 43cpaid | +4.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf9be…a0c1backed South America Rejects | 72c | 155.19$111 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$44.17 | 252 | 53.2%134 W · 118 L | +20.3wins | +0.08per pick | 45cpaid | +7.7%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x4969…6d77backed L1ga Team | 31c | 154.4$48 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$47.93 | 48 | 29.2%14 W · 34 L | -4.7wins | -0.10per pick | 39cpaid | -35%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x5799…db25backed South America Rejects | 68c | 144.24$98 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$46.16 | 460 | 49.8%229 W · 231 L | +2.3wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -1.9%equal weight | 510.00 edge/pick |
| 0x82ef…840bbacked South America Rejects | 70c | 140.29$98 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$42.09 | 90 | 58.9%53 W · 37 L | +3.5wins | +0.04per pick | 55cpaid | +7.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x11ea…594fbacked South America Rejects | 77c | 129.8$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$29.64 | 159 | 42.8%68 W · 91 L | -1.7wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -12.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x02a4…6854backed South America Rejects | 63c | 120$76 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$44 | 1,797 | 55.8%1,003 W · 794 L | +37.5wins | +0.02per pick | 54cpaid | -1.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x82bf…de71backed South America Rejects | 67c | 117.62$79 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$38.82 | 547 | 53.6%293 W · 254 L | +22.9wins | +0.04per pick | 49cpaid | +2.8%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xec69…d6d8backed South America Rejects | 70c | 109.11$77 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$32.27 | 208 | 58.7%122 W · 86 L | +22.1wins | +0.11per pick | 48cpaid | +14.4%equal weight | 61+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x505f…645ebacked South America Rejects | 64c | 100$64 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$36 | 1,280 | 45%576 W · 704 L | -12.7wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -15%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x41da…c470backed L1ga Team | 15c | 96.58$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.23 | 13 | 61.5%8 W · 5 L | +1.9wins | +0.15per pick | 47cpaid | +26.2%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xa07d…a037backed L1ga Team | 27c | 94.56$26 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25.75 | 1,034 | 16.3%169 W · 865 L | -158.1wins | -0.15per pick | 32cpaid | -51%equal weight | 33-0.15 edge/pick |
| 0x2738…358abacked South America Rejects | 74c | 84.77$63 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.84 | 12 | 58.3%7 W · 5 L | -0.5wins | -0.04per pick | 63cpaid | -15.9%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd439…21d3backed South America Rejects | 59c | 82.66$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$33.89 | 316 | 44.9%142 W · 174 L | -18.9wins | -0.06per pick | 51cpaid | -17.9%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xdbdd…a5debacked South America Rejects | 71c | 73.66$52 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.44 | 1,901 | 47.6%905 W · 996 L | +4.6wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | -6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x812a…73edbacked L1ga Team | 21c | 70.4$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.66 | 372 | 23.1%86 W · 286 L | -38.2wins | -0.10per pick | 33cpaid | -38.8%equal weight | 39-0.10 edge/pick |
| 0xf39a…fe47backed South America Rejects | 76c | 70$53 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.57 | 1,013 | 45.5%461 W · 552 L | -46.3wins | -0.05per pick | 50cpaid | -18.3%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xfa77…bf95backed South America Rejects | 77c | 63.51$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$14.61 | 259 | 53.3%138 W · 121 L | +2.3wins | +0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -1.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1c39…442dbacked L1ga Team | 28c | 58.57$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16.2 | 245 | 18.8%46 W · 199 L | -31.2wins | -0.13per pick | 32cpaid | -46%equal weight | 37-0.12 edge/pick |
| 0xb7ab…16d0backed South America Rejects | 69c | 57.66$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.13 | 430 | 67%288 W · 142 L | +31.9wins | +0.07per pick | 60cpaid | +11.4%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xc63b…6e4ebacked South America Rejects | 71c | 49.63$35 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$14.61 | 350 | 32.3%113 W · 237 L | -7.1wins | -0.02per pick | 34cpaid | -22%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x257c…97e0backed South America Rejects | 66c | 44.53$29 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.14 | 10 | 80%8 W · 2 L | +1.2wins | +0.12per pick | 68cpaid | +14%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x9332…a3dbbacked South America Rejects | 70c | 42.09$29 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.63 | 760 | 48.6%369 W · 391 L | +26.2wins | +0.03per pick | 45cpaid | +0.8%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x9919…f261backed L1ga Team | 29c | 41.56$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.05 | 189 | 54%102 W · 87 L | +7.4wins | +0.04per pick | 50cpaid | +4.2%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xcd2d…d7f8backed South America Rejects | 76c | 40.3$31 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.67 | 60 | 55%33 W · 27 L | -0.8wins | -0.01per pick | 56cpaid | -2.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x76b5…a423backed L1ga Team | 25c | 40$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10 | 43 | 53.5%23 W · 20 L | -0.8wins | -0.02per pick | 55cpaid | -11%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x968a…3841backed South America Rejects | 68c | 30.58$21 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.76 | 209 | 39.2%82 W · 127 L | -10.8wins | -0.05per pick | 44cpaid | -25.9%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xf6c8…a184backed South America Rejects | 67c | 30$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.9 | 360 | 44.2%159 W · 201 L | +7.4wins | +0.02per pick | 42cpaid | -3.3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x3085…7568backed South America Rejects | 67c | 30$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.9 | 168 | 37.5%63 W · 105 L | -1.6wins | -0.01per pick | 38cpaid | -19.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x736d…c635backed L1ga Team | 40c | 30$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12 | 971 | 42.7%415 W · 556 L | -20.4wins | -0.02per pick | 45cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x14ed…6584backed South America Rejects | 73c | 28.33$21 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.67 | 29 | 51.7%15 W · 14 L | -0.4wins | -0.01per pick | 53cpaid | -6.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x11b5…d0fdbacked South America Rejects | 74c | 26.61$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$6.92 | 32 | 40.6%13 W · 19 L | -3.5wins | -0.11per pick | 51cpaid | -29.6%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x29a5…a3c4backed South America Rejects | 66c | 24.05$16 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.3 | 273 | 57.1%156 W · 117 L | +9.7wins | +0.04per pick | 54cpaid | +1.1%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xc8df…4b48backed South America Rejects | 60c | 20.76$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.3 | 11 | 54.5%6 W · 5 L | +0.7wins | +0.07per pick | 48cpaid | +15.4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x4f9b…cdeebacked South America Rejects | 67c | 20.06$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$6.62 | 690 | 33.3%230 W · 460 L | -27.9wins | -0.04per pick | 37cpaid | -32.1%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x9235…3fbdbacked South America Rejects | 73c | 16.82$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4.52 | 151 | 67.5%102 W · 49 L | -1.0wins | -0.01per pick | 68cpaid | -2.3%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Dota 2: South America Rejects vs L1ga Team - Game 2 Winnerthis page
- Dota 2: South America Rejects vs L1ga Team (BO3) - DreamLeague Division 2 Group BSouth America Rejects won
- Dota 2: South America Rejects vs L1ga Team - Game 1 WinnerL1ga Team won
- Game Handicap: SAR (-1.5) vs L1ga Team (+1.5)L1ga Team won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.