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NHL · resolved market

Canadiens vs. Penguins

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Penguinsof Canadiens, Penguins
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,304,558
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,310,239

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,304,558 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,347 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6a72…33eebacked Canadiens46c210,486$96,051 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96,051.031,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Penguins50c134,603$67,914 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66,688.3638748.3%187 W · 200 L+1.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf1ff…e56abacked Penguins51c76,702$38,810 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37,891.685749.1%28 W · 29 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xee00…cea1backed Penguins66c37,000$24,420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,580.0944848.9%219 W · 229 L+12.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x16b2…a881backed Canadiens49c33,189$16,263 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,262.5788151.2%451 W · 430 L+10.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd267…9dc6backed Penguins50c23,070$11,535 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,5357659.2%45 W · 31 L+7.9wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+29.4%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Penguins49c21,319$10,446 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,872.662,66451.6%1,375 W · 1,289 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Canadiens49c20,000$9,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,80042552.2%222 W · 203 L+25.0wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xcf6c…7e66backed Penguins51c15,977$8,148 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,828.9315949.7%79 W · 80 L-0.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Penguins66c15,757$10,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,357.3662951.2%322 W · 307 L+18.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9c95…ed41backed Penguins50c15,000$7,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,499.785841.4%24 W · 34 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-8.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Penguins51c13,983$7,074 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,908.9238738%147 W · 240 L-13.9wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-28.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Penguins50c13,533$6,802 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,730.521,67954.4%914 W · 765 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3b5c…126ebacked Canadiens50c12,608$6,304 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,30424349.8%121 W · 122 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84f7…ade1backed Canadiens52c12,563$6,558 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,557.661,02448.4%496 W · 528 L+1.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x05e3…4b87backed Canadiens50c10,595$5,261 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,261.3111953.8%64 W · 55 L-0.3wins0.00per pick54cpaid+1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x50dd…c186backed Penguins50c8,865$4,433 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,432.52955.2%16 W · 13 L+2.4wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+20.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Penguins50c8,752$4,376 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,375.847951.4%246 W · 233 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x45e1…c872backed Penguins51c8,000$4,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,9202846.4%13 W · 15 L-1.8wins-0.07per pick53cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0aa3…64e9backed Penguins48c7,670$3,685 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,985.612343.5%10 W · 13 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick45cpaid+52.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1f7b…d405backed Penguins50c7,640$3,820 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,8201163.6%7 W · 4 L+1.9wins+0.18per pick46cpaid+44%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xad6a…9dbdbacked Penguins50c7,200$3,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,6005259.6%31 W · 21 L+5.6wins+0.11per pick49cpaid+23.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xaa07…2125backed Canadiens49c7,112$3,485 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,484.681,07049.9%534 W · 536 L+22.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed Penguins48c7,004$3,387 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,617.878252.4%43 W · 39 L+6.2wins+0.08per pick45cpaid+12.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked Penguins72c7,000$5,050 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,950977.8%7 W · 2 L+1.1wins+0.12per pick65cpaid+14.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Penguins50c6,947$3,473 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,473.4338844.6%173 W · 215 L-17.1wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Penguins50c6,870$3,436 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,434.181,43450.8%728 W · 706 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Penguins53c6,581$3,513 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,068.276527.7%18 W · 47 L-6.3wins-0.10per pick37cpaid-39.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x3679…2bacbacked Canadiens44c6,263$2,751 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,751.458952.8%47 W · 42 L+7.6wins+0.09per pick44cpaid+4.1%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x7298…fe8dbacked Canadiens49c6,100$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,00033243.7%145 W · 187 L-16.1wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9ded…3423backed Canadiens51c6,000$3,030 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,030.01742.9%3 W · 4 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-8.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd269…8055backed Canadiens50c6,000$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,00028152%146 W · 135 L+2.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Canadiens51c5,913$3,016 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,015.6375251.7%389 W · 363 L-2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd696…8a49backed Penguins51c5,642$2,877 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,764.3751452.3%269 W · 245 L+17.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe405…6179backed Penguins51c5,161$2,632 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,528.691100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+96.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1399…84f0backed Canadiens49c5,010$2,455 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,454.910%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Canadiens48c5,000$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,40066951%341 W · 328 L-14.2wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6555…b650backed Canadiens49c4,985$2,443 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,442.85250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7a1c…a99ebacked Penguins51c4,837$2,467 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,370.232100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.52per pick48cpaid+109.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb875…68a8backed Penguins51c4,835$2,466 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,369.1524654.5%134 W · 112 L+9.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+9.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc94a…9401backed Penguins50c4,759$2,380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,379.6814553.1%77 W · 68 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Penguins48c4,622$2,207 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,414.272,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x2e7c…f4febacked Canadiens49c4,500$2,205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,20510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc955…c3abbacked Penguins52c4,500$2,340 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,1601100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.48per pick52cpaid+92.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x42b5…b5b6backed Penguins48c4,054$1,927 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,126.421,37749.1%676 W · 701 L+39.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc5ee…65bebacked Penguins52c4,000$2,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,9201100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.48per pick52cpaid+92.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x25cc…5998backed Canadiens49c4,000$1,960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,96020%0 W · 2 L-1.1wins-0.53per pick53cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xec13…862bbacked Canadiens53c4,000$2,120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,119.9922546.2%104 W · 121 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8c2d…6b32backed Canadiens49c3,800$1,862 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,86210%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3613…79e1backed Canadiens41c3,645$1,490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,490.0570249%344 W · 358 L+14.2wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0a77…9d74backed Penguins50c3,578$1,789 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,788.7652050%260 W · 260 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3342…f908backed Penguins73c3,368$2,449 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$918.631100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.27per pick73cpaid+37.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8f90…163cbacked Canadiens51c3,340$1,705 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,704.620%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8753…85adbacked Penguins51c3,260$1,663 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,597.461959.1%366 W · 253 L+17.9wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x17e0…80aebacked Penguins69c3,087$2,130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$957.3432744%144 W · 183 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-11.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe7ca…a175backed Canadiens50c3,000$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50013333.1%44 W · 89 L-11.9wins-0.09per pick42cpaid-22%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x1dff…b486backed Penguins51c3,000$1,530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,4701181.8%9 W · 2 L+3.4wins+0.31per pick51cpaid+68.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Canadiens34c2,937$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0001952.6%10 W · 9 L+1.0wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+21.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Penguins50c2,722$1,361 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,36179350.1%397 W · 396 L-11.5wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x3b76…adb3backed Penguins51c2,600$1,326 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,274366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.7wins+0.24per pick43cpaid+34.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7bd8…aeabbacked Penguins51c2,544$1,298 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,246.726955.8%150 W · 119 L+7.0wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb9fc…da76backed Canadiens50c2,500$1,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,25023751.5%122 W · 115 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5487…a014backed Canadiens50c2,500$1,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,25084953.8%457 W · 392 L+20.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xaf31…d3d1backed Canadiens50c2,450$1,225 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,225757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.3wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x74f6…0773backed Canadiens51c2,396$1,222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,22240%0 W · 4 L-2.0wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xc4f5…8adfbacked Penguins50c2,382$1,191 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,190.87425%1 W · 3 L-1.0wins-0.25per pick50cpaid-50%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x43a8…b290backed Penguins50c2,380$1,190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,190250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc5b2…9c5abacked Penguins50c2,380$1,190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,190250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x509e…f531backed Canadiens51c2,375$1,211 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,21140%0 W · 4 L-2.0wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9f65…84a5backed Canadiens51c2,363$1,205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,20540%0 W · 4 L-2.0wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9495…d83dbacked Canadiens51c2,353$1,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,20040%0 W · 4 L-2.0wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x5419…7e75backed Penguins50c2,340$1,170 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,170250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb2e2…4e99backed Penguins52c2,308$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,107.699846.9%46 W · 52 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa99f…9c1ebacked Canadiens4c2,300$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82290%0 W · 29 L-1.8wins-0.06per pick6cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x13a1…d9bcbacked Canadiens27c2,293$619 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$619.2357157.8%330 W · 241 L+12.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Penguins57c2,234$1,271 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$963.2395049.1%466 W · 484 L+12.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Penguins57c2,149$1,231 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$917.41,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x96ca…5a71backed Penguins50c2,000$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,00055446.4%257 W · 297 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf9fe…366bbacked Penguins50c2,000$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,00025552.5%134 W · 121 L-0.7wins0.00per pick53cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6acc…e6eebacked Canadiens52c2,000$1,050 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,049.991435.7%5 W · 9 L-1.0wins-0.07per pick43cpaid-28.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3103…d804backed Penguins59c2,000$1,170 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$829.714447.7%21 W · 23 L0.0wins0.00per pick48cpaid-15.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf1ef…8cd6backed Canadiens50c2,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0008845.5%40 W · 48 L-6.3wins-0.07per pick53cpaid-15.1%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xe2d7…da62backed Canadiens50c2,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00018840.4%76 W · 112 L+4.8wins+0.03per pick38cpaid-1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8a06…fb08backed Penguins50c2,000$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0001100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Penguins51c2,000$1,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$979.9762249.4%307 W · 315 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xca6e…875ebacked Canadiens49c1,959$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$960.1510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd9e…7382backed Penguins51c1,942$991 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$951.671100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+96.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xda5f…2e9bbacked Canadiens52c1,910$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0006253.2%33 W · 29 L+0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x84f6…2e01backed Canadiens52c1,866$978 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$978.478645.3%39 W · 47 L-4.0wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-9.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x06e6…87e6backed Penguins50c1,806$903 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$903.4917744.6%79 W · 98 L-12.0wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-13.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x5c57…5b16backed Penguins50c1,792$901 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8911,47548.3%712 W · 763 L+2.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8ade…e692backed Penguins49c1,699$839 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$860.048257.3%47 W · 35 L+4.5wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+9.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9e6f…ffaabacked Penguins49c1,594$785 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$808.6111947.9%57 W · 62 L-4.4wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-4.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Canadiens53c1,511$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$799.9389547%421 W · 474 L-18.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x63d6…86bdbacked Canadiens52c1,500$780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$780850%4 W · 4 L-0.4wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-13.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x06b4…19b6backed Penguins48c1,500$720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$780966.7%6 W · 3 L+1.6wins+0.17per pick49cpaid+25.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xba42…b46bbacked Penguins48c1,500$720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7801172.7%8 W · 3 L+2.7wins+0.24per pick49cpaid+46.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x6695…b387backed Penguins48c1,500$720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7801080%8 W · 2 L+3.0wins+0.30per pick50cpaid+52.6%equal weight59+0.09 edge/pick
0xbc35…25fcbacked Penguins48c1,500$720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7801163.6%7 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.11per pick53cpaid+15.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0be5…8a37backed Canadiens52c1,500$780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7801258.3%7 W · 5 L+1.2wins+0.10per pick48cpaid+11.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.