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Dota 2: Team Falcons vs Team Yandex (BO1) - BLAST Slam Group Stage

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Yandexof Team Falcons, Team Yandex
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$255,391
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$310,594

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $255,391 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 252 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Team Yandex48c23,095$11,088 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,006.451546.7%7 W · 8 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-8.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9adf…55e8backed Team Falcons52c10,966$5,695 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,695.2619147.6%91 W · 100 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7600…4478backed Team Yandex48c10,000$4,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,20022647.3%107 W · 119 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xff80…9b4dbacked Team Falcons55c7,935$4,389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,389.2217444.8%78 W · 96 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-6.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2586…f071backed Team Yandex74c7,530$5,575 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,955.0134468.9%237 W · 107 L+26.3wins+0.08per pick61cpaid+2.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed Team Falcons53c7,330$3,885 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,885.0318452.2%96 W · 88 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+13.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xac70…2d8dbacked Team Yandex44c6,942$3,086 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,856.079245.7%42 W · 50 L+3.4wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7951…bb41backed Team Falcons52c6,606$3,430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,429.8564744.4%287 W · 360 L+13.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3833…33d1backed Team Yandex47c6,391$2,974 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,416.3342650%213 W · 213 L+4.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed Team Yandex46c6,000$2,760 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,239.9910445.2%47 W · 57 L+0.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcf24…7d4abacked Team Falcons54c5,939$3,206 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,206.085149%25 W · 26 L-4.0wins-0.08per pick57cpaid-17.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb4cd…4dd1backed Team Falcons44c5,574$2,428 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,428.152556%14 W · 11 L-1.8wins-0.07per pick63cpaid-19.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Team Falcons42c5,515$2,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,30033850.9%172 W · 166 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdc85…3532backed Team Yandex57c5,000$2,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,150.491631.3%5 W · 11 L-1.7wins-0.11per pick42cpaid+21.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5d81…294abacked Team Falcons58c4,661$2,723 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,722.641030%3 W · 7 L-2.4wins-0.24per pick54cpaid-42.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xf588…2b81backed Team Yandex74c4,361$3,249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,112.4415047.3%71 W · 79 L+7.0wins+0.05per pick43cpaid-6.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x97e1…017bbacked Team Falcons52c3,918$2,037 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,037.1534146.6%159 W · 182 L+4.8wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-7.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Team Falcons25c3,430$871 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$870.9715337.3%57 W · 96 L-6.7wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-33%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1461…30a1backed Team Falcons54c3,378$1,824 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,824.177665.8%50 W · 26 L+8.5wins+0.11per pick55cpaid+22.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xccf5…42f2backed Team Yandex48c3,105$1,496 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,608.9657455.4%318 W · 256 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcdf3…1bb5backed Team Yandex42c2,991$1,256 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,734.9128341%116 W · 167 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Team Falcons26c2,916$762 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$762.319242.7%82 W · 110 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-20%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x62f2…07f8backed Team Falcons54c2,778$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,500.1214253.5%76 W · 66 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2905…6255backed Team Falcons54c2,580$1,393 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,3933360.6%20 W · 13 L+2.9wins+0.09per pick52cpaid+18.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Team Falcons52c2,576$1,342 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,341.731,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9f7b…0cc9backed Team Falcons54c2,514$1,364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,364.227944.3%35 W · 44 L-8.8wins-0.11per pick55cpaid-20.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Team Falcons11c2,448$267 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$267.2314121.3%30 W · 111 L-10.5wins-0.07per pick29cpaid-60.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa558…1b44backed Team Yandex47c1,900$893 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0073050%15 W · 15 L+2.7wins+0.09per pick41cpaid+29.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Team Falcons22c1,522$331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$330.71,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x19ff…d0d0backed Team Falcons52c1,500$775 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$774.993354.5%18 W · 15 L+0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcdfb…980cbacked Team Yandex45c1,500$675 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$824.9917546.9%82 W · 93 L-4.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-9.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x778d…cbe2backed Team Falcons53c1,492$791 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$790.76475%3 W · 1 L+1.1wins+0.28per pick47cpaid+76.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xcbf4…e3a6backed Team Yandex44c1,436$626 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$809.899345.2%42 W · 51 L+5.4wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+14.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x5d1e…d5dfbacked Team Falcons48c1,420$681 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$681.2512654.8%69 W · 57 L+6.7wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+4.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Team Yandex61c1,414$863 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$551.121,15547.8%552 W · 603 L+29.5wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x30db…07c3backed Team Yandex45c1,311$590 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$721.0954445.8%249 W · 295 L-10.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x403f…2b6bbacked Team Falcons12c1,303$162 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$161.591040%4 W · 6 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-30.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0370…d000backed Team Falcons31c1,303$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4007451.4%38 W · 36 L-2.8wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-13.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1b44…d8debacked Team Falcons28c1,296$361 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$361.475149%25 W · 26 L+2.5wins+0.05per pick44cpaid-8.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9942…5c84backed Team Falcons18c1,285$228 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$227.5126453%140 W · 124 L+0.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc42f…9390backed Team Yandex55c1,273$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$572.739254.3%50 W · 42 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcccc…dbddbacked Team Yandex45c1,260$567 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$69319943.2%86 W · 113 L-3.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-1.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe42b…7ea9backed Team Yandex45c1,250$567 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$682.4946535.1%163 W · 302 L+22.9wins+0.05per pick30cpaid+18.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xbf5e…4e1abacked Team Falcons54c1,222$663 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$663.184146.3%19 W · 22 L+0.7wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x469f…3d4fbacked Team Yandex76c1,124$853 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.7923546.8%110 W · 125 L+10.7wins+0.05per pick42cpaid0%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Team Falcons39c1,123$436 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$436.22,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc7c7…24c2backed Team Falcons2c1,105$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.1313061.5%80 W · 50 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick61cpaid-3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed Team Yandex46c1,100$506 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$59458744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8c16…4b37backed Team Falcons49c1,096$537 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$536.877149.3%35 W · 36 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe999…12bdbacked Team Falcons57c1,047$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60018156.4%102 W · 79 L+8.9wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+8.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x39bc…42d2backed Team Falcons2c1,033$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$161030%3 W · 7 L-1.5wins-0.15per pick45cpaid-58.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1d1f…b254backed Team Yandex76c1,021$776 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$245.04366.7%2 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick70cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xca47…3ef4backed Team Falcons54c999.95$540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$539.97560%3 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick63cpaid-10.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked Team Falcons13c967.49$121 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$121.3999844.4%443 W · 555 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5e88…5ddabacked Team Yandex65c888.03$581 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$307.457562.7%47 W · 28 L+11.2wins+0.15per pick48cpaid+24.7%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed Team Falcons57c884.39$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50047660.7%289 W · 187 L-0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Team Falcons32c855.73$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$275.362,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked Team Falcons15c825.01$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$123.7692056.4%519 W · 401 L+78.3wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Team Yandex46c813.09$373 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$439.791,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x24de…53e7backed Team Falcons3c800$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201040%4 W · 6 L+3.2wins+0.32per pick8cpaid+405.7%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xc651…15d3backed Team Falcons56c750$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4207147.9%34 W · 37 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b64…eaf4backed Team Yandex65c716.15$466 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$250.3517740.7%72 W · 105 L-11.0wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-25.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Team Falcons40c695.2$281 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$280.711,90147.6%905 W · 996 L+4.6wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d97…f2bebacked Team Yandex47c599.99$282 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$317.994854.2%26 W · 22 L+2.9wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+7.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5aad…c5adbacked Team Falcons21c593.33$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125.521711.8%2 W · 15 L-2.6wins-0.15per pick27cpaid-78.8%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xc7c4…c025backed Team Yandex48c575.25$274 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$301.68333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.18per pick51cpaid-29.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x09d2…cc27backed Team Falcons29c573.9$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$167.354223.8%10 W · 32 L-4.2wins-0.10per pick34cpaid-50.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x1f4f…46c2backed Team Falcons53c570$302 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302.136054.4%196 W · 164 L+12.1wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Team Falcons19c552$106 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$105.9179341.7%331 W · 462 L-13.3wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-16.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfaa4…71c5backed Team Falcons27c550$148 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1486245.2%28 W · 34 L+2.8wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+10.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xb020…92f3backed Team Yandex50c500$248 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$251.958554.1%46 W · 39 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc85d…6832backed Team Falcons13c491.69$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.812438.7%48 W · 76 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-10%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc3fc…5176backed Team Falcons55c454.55$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2508543.5%37 W · 48 L-6.6wins-0.08per pick51cpaid-11.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x3265…d5b8backed Team Yandex73c453.34$332 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.815942.4%25 W · 34 L+2.9wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3abf…b143backed Team Falcons17c438.56$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$74.6433645.5%153 W · 183 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x22ca…3283backed Team Falcons40c426.3$170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$170.31030%3 W · 7 L-1.0wins-0.10per pick40cpaid-38.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked Team Falcons14c424.44$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.0977458.5%453 W · 321 L+75.1wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xc8ad…be4ebacked Team Falcons55c412.24$226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$225.5313251.5%68 W · 64 L+4.9wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc983…ebf0backed Team Yandex75c405.78$306 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.211637.5%6 W · 10 L-1.9wins-0.12per pick49cpaid-44.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x0c34…05cfbacked Team Yandex53c400.02$212 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$188.01540%2 W · 3 L-0.3wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-37.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb0e6…84a8backed Team Yandex61c400$244 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1561250%6 W · 6 L-0.9wins-0.08per pick58cpaid-18.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x1412…15d5backed Team Yandex67c400$269 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1311266.7%8 W · 4 L+0.3wins+0.03per pick64cpaid+4.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked Team Yandex69c396.66$272 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$124.4877256.5%436 W · 336 L+30.3wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+0.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Team Falcons41c395.63$163 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$162.532,37847.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L+15.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x871e…6566backed Team Falcons39c387.88$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$151.274456.8%25 W · 19 L+4.2wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+52.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xbe2d…77b4backed Team Falcons52c383.89$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200.374757.4%27 W · 20 L+2.7wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+31.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb569…6fe0backed Team Falcons54c381.39$205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205.2327548%132 W · 143 L-1.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x491d…f42bbacked Team Yandex54c371.11$202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$169.339660.1%238 W · 158 L+8.5wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93c8…adffbacked Team Falcons54c370.37$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2007851.3%40 W · 38 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0cd9…2a08backed Team Falcons15c361.13$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.9452243.9%229 W · 293 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb3bc…2f60backed Team Yandex75c358.68$269 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.245843.1%25 W · 33 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc371…1e28backed Team Falcons38c355.17$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.878950.6%45 W · 44 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-9.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbe5a…13f5backed Team Falcons28c352.66$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10045046.7%210 W · 240 L-11.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xaacf…5f84backed Team Yandex58c350.02$205 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$145.2759250.5%299 W · 293 L-20.7wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-10%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xacf6…41fcbacked Team Falcons30c330.99$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10060646.9%284 W · 322 L+10.5wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6e63…9e38backed Team Falcons6c306.34$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.3834561.2%211 W · 134 L+17.7wins+0.05per pick56cpaid+4.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc0c8…97b4backed Team Falcons52c300$156 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15615465.6%101 W · 53 L+4.3wins+0.03per pick63cpaid+2.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xda14…12a9backed Team Falcons10c300$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3010%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.10per pick10cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d86…ea87backed Team Falcons36c299.99$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1085451.9%28 W · 26 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf9b5…09eebacked Team Falcons51c298$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15155157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.