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Dota2 · resolved market

Game Handicap: Liquid (-1.5) vs Vici Gaming (+1.5)

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Vici Gamingof Team Liquid, Vici Gaming
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$61,484
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$66,597

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $61,484 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 119 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x0993…525fbacked Vici Gaming55c17,152$9,440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,711.71844.4%8 W · 10 L0.0wins0.00per pick44cpaid-7.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa3c5…6930backed Team Liquid43c9,100$3,913 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,913714.3%1 W · 6 L-2.4wins-0.35per pick49cpaid-70.8%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xb496…1f45backed Team Liquid47c6,025$2,832 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,832.12259.1%13 W · 9 L+4.1wins+0.19per pick40cpaid+65.2%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x6b97…8d30backed Vici Gaming57c6,005$3,423 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,582.2836248.6%176 W · 186 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcf60…a6f5backed Team Liquid49c6,000$2,935 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,934.9911953.8%64 W · 55 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe16d…5e30backed Team Liquid46c4,348$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,0001,21057.1%691 W · 519 L+44.5wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+4.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed Vici Gaming57c4,000$2,280 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,72015544.5%69 W · 86 L-5.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7822…9348backed Team Liquid43c3,640$1,565 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,565.2520%1 W · 4 L-1.3wins-0.25per pick45cpaid-54.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2ff1…98c0backed Team Liquid43c2,662$1,145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,144.75250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.09per pick59cpaid-33.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed Vici Gaming53c2,500$1,325 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,17541351.8%214 W · 199 L+1.0wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x82d2…beeabacked Vici Gaming50c2,470$1,235 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,23516746.1%77 W · 90 L-4.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2a74…de59backed Vici Gaming52c2,200$1,144 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,055.992343.5%10 W · 13 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-14.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed Vici Gaming57c2,000$1,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86019742.1%83 W · 114 L-12.6wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x94cb…64e3backed Vici Gaming51c2,000$1,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98018830.9%58 W · 130 L-7.0wins-0.04per pick35cpaid-17.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xfe0e…ea7bbacked Team Liquid43c1,870$804 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$804.120%0 W · 2 L-1.1wins-0.54per pick54cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xaa5e…1468backed Team Liquid43c1,334$574 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$573.652157.1%12 W · 9 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-6.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2d40…dd57backed Team Liquid43c1,215$522 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$522.283132.3%10 W · 21 L-3.6wins-0.11per pick44cpaid-30.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x10d4…d953backed Vici Gaming53c1,180$625 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$554.61435.7%5 W · 9 L-0.9wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-25.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf2bb…3250backed Vici Gaming53c1,132$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$532.086352.4%33 W · 30 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed Team Liquid47c1,049$492 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$492.1380443.9%353 W · 451 L-1.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc581…0f24backed Team Liquid47c1,000$470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4701650%8 W · 8 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-8.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed Team Liquid47c999.99$470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47065441.9%274 W · 380 L-1.3wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9ccc…e7e8backed Vici Gaming53c932.43$494 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$438.244542.2%19 W · 26 L-1.5wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-12.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0698…b91dbacked Team Liquid45c841.71$377 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$376.974332.6%14 W · 29 L-3.5wins-0.08per pick41cpaid-20.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Team Liquid51c619.41$315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$314.9332548.9%159 W · 166 L-7.5wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc644…07bbbacked Team Liquid48c603.32$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$289.591855.6%10 W · 8 L-0.7wins-0.04per pick59cpaid-13.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x39c9…7debbacked Team Liquid50c600$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3004434.1%15 W · 29 L-4.8wins-0.11per pick45cpaid-25.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x60ec…f7b0backed Vici Gaming53c527.03$279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$247.750353.9%271 W · 232 L+26.7wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+4.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked Team Liquid46c511.87$235 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$235.191,15447.7%550 W · 604 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-12.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc746…3943backed Team Liquid56c509.99$285 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$284.896440.6%26 W · 38 L-5.5wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-22.8%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x0758…9532backed Vici Gaming48c499.98$240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$259.9918437.5%69 W · 115 L-3.4wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7dc6…4b55backed Team Liquid43c465.12$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001040%4 W · 6 L-1.0wins-0.10per pick50cpaid-28.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf58d…1fadbacked Team Liquid43c465.12$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200450%2 W · 2 L+0.1wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed Vici Gaming58c460.03$267 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$193.2141050.2%206 W · 204 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x54ea…f74abacked Team Liquid42c451.6$190 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$189.675158.8%30 W · 21 L+2.0wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+2.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6407…d360backed Team Liquid46c430.13$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.0410853.7%58 W · 50 L+7.1wins+0.07per pick47cpaid+18.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x09a6…73c7backed Vici Gaming50c400$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2006654.5%36 W · 30 L+2.4wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+5.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9166…b479backed Team Liquid49c373.67$183 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$183.112348%59 W · 64 L-4.6wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb3f8…e0b1backed Vici Gaming55c361.09$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$161.0926343%113 W · 150 L+13.9wins+0.05per pick38cpaid+15.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x07fa…f5cdbacked Vici Gaming55c350$193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$157.546240.7%188 W · 274 L+15.4wins+0.03per pick37cpaid+9.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf5ea…d07fbacked Vici Gaming57c350$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.55749.1%28 W · 29 L+0.9wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-8.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa57e…ed54backed Vici Gaming58c332.76$193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$139.762552%13 W · 12 L-0.9wins-0.04per pick56cpaid-10.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4a66…fa83backed Team Liquid43c331.86$143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$142.7616.7%1 W · 5 L-1.7wins-0.28per pick44cpaid-66%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf9a1…d1eebacked Team Liquid52c305.77$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1591315.4%2 W · 11 L-4.2wins-0.33per pick48cpaid-73%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x8b55…d74bbacked Vici Gaming52c300$156 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14421045.7%96 W · 114 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+12.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5537…f9c8backed Vici Gaming58c300$173 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12721353.5%114 W · 99 L-5.4wins-0.03per pick56cpaid-8.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed Team Liquid50c300$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15063032.5%205 W · 425 L+1.4wins0.00per pick32cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf20b…e27dbacked Vici Gaming58c300$174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12611746.2%54 W · 63 L-0.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid-11.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe075…bf89backed Team Liquid42c295.24$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1243240.6%13 W · 19 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9b94…9c0dbacked Vici Gaming51c266.67$136 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$130.674358.1%25 W · 18 L+1.3wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb66c…a0f5backed Team Liquid46c260.87$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12022260.4%134 W · 88 L+6.3wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+4.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe9cb…f7dbbacked Vici Gaming52c258.85$133 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$125.458842%37 W · 51 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3d1f…c47bbacked Team Liquid43c251.16$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$108366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.04per pick63cpaid-7.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x64a3…450abacked Vici Gaming49c220$109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$111.25429.6%16 W · 38 L-8.4wins-0.16per pick45cpaid-36.3%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xa371…eaa5backed Team Liquid47c217.85$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10214643.8%64 W · 82 L-8.2wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-10.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbf86…3e17backed Team Liquid46c217.37$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.997957%45 W · 34 L+5.4wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+6.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x4281…1a5abacked Team Liquid42c208.67$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.644344.2%19 W · 24 L-3.3wins-0.08per pick52cpaid-20.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x73e0…388bbacked Team Liquid43c195.35$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8420%0 W · 2 L-1.2wins-0.59per pick59cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x42cd…2359backed Vici Gaming53c188.68$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.686657.6%38 W · 28 L+4.2wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+10.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xbf69…4fa2backed Vici Gaming50c171.42$86 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$85.7853634%182 W · 354 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x84d9…76dbbacked Vici Gaming57c170$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7326741.9%112 W · 155 L-6.1wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x24d0…6cbabacked Vici Gaming55c165.89$91 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74.861050%5 W · 5 L+0.5wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+5.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3135…f6c3backed Vici Gaming53c163.55$87 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76.8712065.8%79 W · 41 L+15.4wins+0.13per pick53cpaid+25%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x2da3…f258backed Vici Gaming50c163.46$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81.1643860.5%265 W · 173 L+44.5wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+14.6%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x5d08…5d9fbacked Team Liquid48c157.38$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75.126845.6%31 W · 37 L-0.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2b3c…9f22backed Vici Gaming53c154.72$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72.727549.3%37 W · 38 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3296…c186backed Team Liquid48c151.32$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7216552.1%86 W · 79 L+7.5wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+4.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x6983…88c3backed Team Liquid46c148.76$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.434746.8%22 W · 25 L+2.9wins+0.06per pick41cpaid+11.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xb6c5…20d0backed Vici Gaming51c145.6$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72.0617537.1%65 W · 110 L-13.9wins-0.08per pick45cpaid-22.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x2b35…0bfebacked Team Liquid42c145.16$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.2326445.1%119 W · 145 L-4.9wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd943…8676backed Team Liquid43c144.19$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$627839.7%31 W · 47 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick37cpaid+3.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x528a…12f1backed Team Liquid47c136.89$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.462050%10 W · 10 L+1.8wins+0.09per pick41cpaid+26.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xdc40…89cfbacked Team Liquid69c136.89$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.4536041.4%149 W · 211 L-22.2wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-12.7%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4b39…8b50backed Vici Gaming50c127.55$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.5511751.3%60 W · 57 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick49cpaid-5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8b4e…417cbacked Team Liquid43c124$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.322231.8%7 W · 15 L-2.6wins-0.12per pick44cpaid-27.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x312c…0f42backed Team Liquid50c124$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6237252.7%196 W · 176 L+1.2wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6df3…b8bebacked Vici Gaming57c122.81$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.812060%12 W · 8 L+1.1wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+10.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xccf6…52bfbacked Team Liquid43c116.28$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50520%1 W · 4 L-0.8wins-0.16per pick36cpaid-39.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2799…b1e1backed Vici Gaming57c115.28$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.561060%6 W · 4 L+1.5wins+0.15per pick45cpaid+26.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1ace…3038backed Team Liquid48c104.17$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5023562.1%146 W · 89 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick59cpaid+2.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa032…2090backed Team Liquid42c101.69$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.2111847.5%56 W · 62 L-3.3wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x15d1…ccfebacked Team Liquid47c100$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4754659.7%326 W · 220 L+6.9wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1fd6…d4a0backed Team Liquid43c100$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$431442.9%6 W · 8 L-0.8wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-15.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb171…7d2bbacked Vici Gaming55c99.99$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$452065%13 W · 7 L+1.2wins+0.06per pick59cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa78e…7cbcbacked Vici Gaming51c97.43$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.439337.6%35 W · 58 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7179…7d79backed Team Liquid50c95.66$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.8319053.2%101 W · 89 L+11.5wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+15.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb1a1…dd34backed Team Liquid51c93.09$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.3319856.1%111 W · 87 L-4.8wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-6.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6326…6329backed Team Liquid52c90$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.815545.2%70 W · 85 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+6.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb5a2…a9bfbacked Vici Gaming53c75.47$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.4719455.7%108 W · 86 L+0.3wins0.00per pick56cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x17ef…9a2cbacked Team Liquid50c75.31$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.5614856.8%84 W · 64 L+4.9wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x23d3…fc0ebacked Team Liquid45c74.81$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.6612544%55 W · 70 L-4.6wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-6.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x95e9…67b6backed Team Liquid46c71.74$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3318550.8%94 W · 91 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3f20…934fbacked Team Liquid56c70$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.212860.9%78 W · 50 L+4.0wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xce08…510bbacked Vici Gaming50c68$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3435951.3%184 W · 175 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa514…9c8fbacked Team Liquid50c67.92$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.963764.9%24 W · 13 L+5.3wins+0.14per pick50cpaid+35.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x6401…f240backed Team Liquid61c61.73$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.664141.5%17 W · 24 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-9.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6db…3155backed Team Liquid47c58.14$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.318445.2%38 W · 46 L-4.2wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-15.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xcebf…832ebacked Vici Gaming58c51.99$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.84250%1 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.05per pick45cpaid-13.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d0e…4f01backed Vici Gaming52c50$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.1725047.6%119 W · 131 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xa01f…8192backed Vici Gaming57c47.33$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.51666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.0wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+40.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.