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NHL · resolved market

Red Wings vs. Blue Jackets

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Blue Jacketsof Red Wings, Blue Jackets
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$608,628
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$610,562

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $608,628 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 255 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xe20a…e469backed Red Wings48c192,290$92,525 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92,525.0939047.9%187 W · 203 L-13.2wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-6.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd6b4…a278backed Blue Jackets52c166,666$86,666 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79,999.6810349.5%51 W · 52 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xef54…d1eebacked Blue Jackets52c150,569$78,635 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71,933.7817749.2%87 W · 90 L+6.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+5.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9165…5b98backed Red Wings49c78,219$38,196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38,195.911955.5%66 W · 53 L+3.6wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+6.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Red Wings47c68,934$32,399 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32,398.7638748.3%187 W · 200 L+1.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Red Wings41c60,000$24,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,599.9942552.2%222 W · 203 L+25.0wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Blue Jackets72c46,832$33,791 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,040.821,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9c16…09cbbacked Blue Jackets52c45,176$23,491 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,684.328354.2%45 W · 38 L+5.2wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+14.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3b5c…126ebacked Red Wings49c40,000$19,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19,60024349.8%121 W · 122 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1057…9ea5backed Blue Jackets51c28,282$14,424 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,858.18540%2 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.13per pick53cpaid-26.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed Blue Jackets51c21,893$11,166 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,727.7321755.3%120 W · 97 L+0.3wins0.00per pick55cpaid+0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Blue Jackets51c13,333$6,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,583.131,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x17e0…80aebacked Red Wings29c11,841$3,445 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,445.4232744%144 W · 183 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-11.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa315…cabbbacked Blue Jackets51c10,850$5,534 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,316.532251.9%167 W · 155 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x56c6…f706backed Red Wings47c6,638$3,120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,119.8615954.1%86 W · 73 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcb43…3c74backed Red Wings49c6,000$2,940 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,94030447.4%144 W · 160 L-5.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3a7a…15a4backed Blue Jackets51c5,882$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,882.3523047.4%109 W · 121 L-7.5wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Red Wings29c5,856$1,726 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,726.162951.2%322 W · 307 L+18.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xaa07…2125backed Red Wings48c4,689$2,244 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,243.731,07049.9%534 W · 536 L+22.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Blue Jackets51c4,290$2,186 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,103.61,44149.2%709 W · 732 L+6.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8e68…d99bbacked Red Wings49c4,081$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,999.6928652.4%150 W · 136 L+6.1wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Blue Jackets51c3,063$1,562 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,500.752,89451.3%1,484 W · 1,410 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Red Wings28c3,027$839 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$838.651,02540.8%418 W · 607 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-3.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Blue Jackets17c3,000$510 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,49089547%421 W · 474 L-18.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x360d…5e0fbacked Red Wings52c2,909$1,499 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,499.034032.5%13 W · 27 L-8.5wins-0.21per pick54cpaid-39.6%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0x057a…3bacbacked Red Wings34c2,439$818 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$818.0827143.5%118 W · 153 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0bf1…9eaebacked Red Wings43c2,082$897 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$896.585261.5%32 W · 20 L+4.5wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+14%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x8511…4a6bbacked Blue Jackets52c2,070$1,076 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$993.620147.8%96 W · 105 L-5.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2366…1078backed Red Wings50c2,001$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00045954.2%249 W · 210 L-1.5wins0.00per pick55cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x84f6…2e01backed Blue Jackets52c2,000$1,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9608645.3%39 W · 47 L-4.0wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-9.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Red Wings48c1,818$873 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$872.8668449.9%341 W · 343 L-3.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Blue Jackets50c1,700$850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8501,23053.7%661 W · 569 L-9.1wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Red Wings49c1,588$778 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$778.2869550.1%348 W · 347 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5adf…a5e7backed Blue Jackets53c1,559$826 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$732.7363249.5%313 W · 319 L+2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x22e6…409fbacked Red Wings47c1,500$705 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$704.937338.4%28 W · 45 L-8.0wins-0.11per pick49cpaid-20.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x2195…16f9backed Red Wings48c1,458$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7004440.9%18 W · 26 L-3.4wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-18.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Blue Jackets51c1,419$725 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$693.831,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Blue Jackets52c1,362$702 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$660.311,63650.4%825 W · 811 L-20.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x81f5…70afbacked Red Wings50c1,285$642 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$642.1520751.2%106 W · 101 L+10.9wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+11.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x8717…49a8backed Blue Jackets52c1,272$662 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$610.6730152.5%158 W · 143 L+17.8wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+12.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x5be4…09acbacked Blue Jackets51c1,253$639 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$614.381100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+96.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe956…6eb7backed Red Wings51c1,200$612 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61210%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Red Wings26c1,158$301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$301.112,66451.6%1,375 W · 1,289 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5529…86d2backed Red Wings49c1,148$561 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$560.996547.7%31 W · 34 L-1.9wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Red Wings1c1,111$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.117450.7%5 W · 740 L-13.2wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-94.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Blue Jackets52c1,102$572 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$530.121,14350.8%581 W · 562 L+11.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x80d1…beefbacked Red Wings50c1,055$528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$527.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x832b…d2a4backed Blue Jackets50c1,001$501 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$500.51100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x98a3…d61ebacked Red Wings50c1,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5004746.8%22 W · 25 L-1.9wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x977a…f2cabacked Red Wings1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101,1632.3%27 W · 1,136 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-87.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc29a…7816backed Red Wings48c1,000$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4808240.2%33 W · 49 L-5.9wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Blue Jackets52c977.48$513 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$464.3562249.4%307 W · 315 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x42b5…b5b6backed Red Wings46c887.46$412 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$412.221,37749.1%676 W · 701 L+39.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5c57…5b16backed Blue Jackets50c819.18$411 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$408.21,47548.3%712 W · 763 L+2.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5137…1556backed Blue Jackets51c797.01$405 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$391.7687447%411 W · 463 L+3.5wins0.00per pick47cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x77c5…9a0ebacked Red Wings26c680.58$179 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$178.5727357.5%157 W · 116 L+18.6wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+17.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x9dd9…08bdbacked Red Wings36c675$241 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$240.91,05442.5%448 W · 606 L-25.3wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-17.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Blue Jackets52c669.32$351 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$317.9699638.2%380 W · 616 L-10.3wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-12.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd696…8a49backed Blue Jackets51c658.99$336 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$322.951452.3%269 W · 245 L+17.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0fae…3488backed Blue Jackets50c651.61$326 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$325.819550.5%48 W · 47 L+5.8wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+7.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x27df…e67cbacked Red Wings48c625$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30014148.9%69 W · 72 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3103…d804backed Blue Jackets56c616.55$345 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272.024447.7%21 W · 23 L0.0wins0.00per pick48cpaid-15.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf41a…ea2bbacked Blue Jackets51c600$303 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29791945.6%419 W · 500 L-27.3wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6036…d2ccbacked Blue Jackets52c590$307 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$283.247051.5%242 W · 228 L+12.7wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+6.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4602…3315backed Blue Jackets52c576.92$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$276.928956.2%50 W · 39 L+5.4wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+13.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x094e…f10bbacked Red Wings49c555$272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$271.957240.3%29 W · 43 L-5.8wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-19.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Blue Jackets60c519.02$309 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$210.143,70450.5%1,871 W · 1,833 L+105.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9703…69c2backed Blue Jackets52c507$264 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$243.368450%42 W · 42 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb47e…c602backed Red Wings48c500$240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24038445.8%176 W · 208 L-10.1wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-7.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d01…0ab1backed Blue Jackets51c500$255 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24575946.6%354 W · 405 L-3.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5942…5641backed Blue Jackets52c500$260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24011849.2%58 W · 60 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+8.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xaeb5…58e2backed Red Wings51c499.99$254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$254.119548.2%94 W · 101 L+0.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9c95…ed41backed Blue Jackets50c493$247 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.55841.4%24 W · 34 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-8.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7634…1b96backed Blue Jackets51c467$238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$228.8320047.5%95 W · 105 L-9.1wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5c6e…a791backed Red Wings47c455$214 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$213.8530%0 W · 3 L-0.5wins-0.16per pick16cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0936…8c82backed Blue Jackets54c450$243 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$207425%1 W · 3 L+0.4wins+0.11per pick14cpaid-53.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa00b…f702backed Blue Jackets54c440$238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$202.4250%1 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.23per pick27cpaid-7.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1350…14debacked Red Wings47c435$204 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$204.4510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.47per pick47cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7ba2…48d4backed Red Wings49c435$213 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$213.1510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf641…7b6fbacked Red Wings66c434$288 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$287.5152172.6%378 W · 143 L+36.7wins+0.07per pick66cpaid+9.9%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x370c…9017backed Blue Jackets49c419.98$206 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$214.191100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.51per pick49cpaid+104.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1244…c851backed Red Wings49c408$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.9222248.2%107 W · 115 L-5.2wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3ae9…74acbacked Blue Jackets50c400$199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$200.7213448.5%65 W · 69 L+7.4wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x84f7…ade1backed Blue Jackets51c392$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$192.081,02448.4%496 W · 528 L+1.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Red Wings47c389$183 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$182.8338844.6%173 W · 215 L-17.1wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xce4d…a7fabacked Blue Jackets49c359$176 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$183.0925555.3%141 W · 114 L+10.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+3.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1b44…d8debacked Blue Jackets37c350.08$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$219.5429553.6%158 W · 137 L+13.9wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xae1e…d204backed Blue Jackets55c325$179 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$146.251973.7%14 W · 5 L+4.1wins+0.22per pick52cpaid+40%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x3944…c0d8backed Red Wings48c314.5$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$150.9610%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe530…a2cabacked Red Wings48c312.5$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15069142.8%296 W · 395 L-2.2wins0.00per pick43cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcc75…3d30backed Blue Jackets53c312.3$166 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$146.781100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.47per pick53cpaid+88.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x15e3…009fbacked Blue Jackets52c300$156 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14438857.2%222 W · 166 L+8.8wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8bca…16bfbacked Blue Jackets53c293.02$155 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$137.723661.1%22 W · 14 L+3.4wins+0.09per pick52cpaid+15.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x273c…7a42backed Blue Jackets72c259.22$188 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.4618159.7%108 W · 73 L+8.3wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+7.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc5b5…7e80backed Blue Jackets61c256.01$156 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.21,10752%576 W · 531 L+63.9wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+7.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x50bb…9aa6backed Red Wings50c250$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1257245.8%33 W · 39 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb080…5eddbacked Red Wings47c250$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$117.516246.9%76 W · 86 L-4.8wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-7.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x58c8…0300backed Blue Jackets49c235.19$116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$119.360141.9%252 W · 349 L-8.5wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-18.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6643…0109backed Blue Jackets53c234.95$124 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.6948748.3%235 W · 252 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc684…2228backed Blue Jackets51c223.93$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$109.9720137.8%76 W · 125 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-0.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.