Weather · resolved market
Will the highest temperature in Wellington be 12°C on August 20?
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0xf379b37ad4ae12421bdf1af017f833456536afc1fa7a726fec915743f5de2e7b
Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Yesof Yes, No
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Weatherevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $10,315
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $11,506
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $10,315 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 81 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Weather is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Weather | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0xfd36…a832backed Yes | 55c | 913.71$500 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$413.71 | 650 | 43.4%282 W · 368 L | -3.5wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -2.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb106…13f4backed No | 45c | 600$270 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$270 | 90 | 51.1%46 W · 44 L | -4.3wins | -0.05per pick | 56cpaid | -11.3%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xe40a…e4a2backed No | 41c | 461.23$190 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$190.42 | 1,316 | 56.2%740 W · 576 L | -18.6wins | -0.01per pick | 58cpaid | -10.2%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x30fb…7db4backed No | 48c | 411.21$197 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$197.39 | 4,117 | 47.6%1,958 W · 2,159 L | -158.0wins | -0.04per pick | 51cpaid | -12.4%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x229c…b966backed No | 11c | 341.44$39 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$38.56 | 1,567 | 37.2%583 W · 984 L | +243.6wins | +0.16per pick | 22cpaid | +25.1%equal weight | 67+0.15 edge/pick |
| 0x0484…4830backed No | 40c | 251.82$100 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$100.5 | 5,186 | 47.2%2,447 W · 2,739 L | +66.7wins | +0.01per pick | 46cpaid | +1.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbb7a…ed18backed No | 12c | 245.58$28 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$28.47 | 1,544 | 16.3%252 W · 1,292 L | +21.9wins | +0.01per pick | 15cpaid | +10.5%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x85d5…bbf0backed No | 41c | 195.68$80 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$80.44 | 640 | 21.7%139 W · 501 L | -23.6wins | -0.04per pick | 25cpaid | -43.8%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x1fc9…8b5ebacked Yes | 57c | 191.71$109 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$82.35 | 141 | 51.8%73 W · 68 L | +10.3wins | +0.07per pick | 44cpaid | +11.4%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x5a21…9318backed Yes | 78c | 185$144 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40.65 | 6,592 | 53.1%3,503 W · 3,089 L | +400.2wins | +0.06per pick | 47cpaid | -6.5%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xff34…bf20backed Yes | 59c | 168.83$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$68.83 | 5 | 20%1 W · 4 L | +0.3wins | +0.05per pick | 15cpaid | -66.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf514…07cdbacked Yes | 52c | 168.65$87 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$81.51 | 34 | 41.2%14 W · 20 L | +1.6wins | +0.05per pick | 36cpaid | +39.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x9418…e9f8backed Yes | 52c | 159.17$83 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$76.39 | 1,108 | 30%332 W · 776 L | -38.1wins | -0.03per pick | 33cpaid | -13.6%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf3a7…2657backed No | 22c | 143.26$32 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$31.88 | 183 | 28.4%52 W · 131 L | -9.0wins | -0.05per pick | 33cpaid | -39.3%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xf6f6…0e74backed No | 43c | 120$51 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$51 | 198 | 61.1%121 W · 77 L | +4.5wins | +0.02per pick | 59cpaid | +0.7%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x28ea…7367backed Yes | 44c | 112$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$62.2 | 1,896 | 61.5%1,166 W · 730 L | -5.9wins | 0.00per pick | 62cpaid | -0.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x38fa…26ffbacked No | 41c | 109.98$45 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$44.59 | 24 | 66.7%16 W · 8 L | +4.7wins | +0.20per pick | 47cpaid | +26.4%equal weight | 61+0.10 edge/pick |
| 0x6120…f1febacked Yes | 56c | 107.14$60 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$47.14 | 827 | 42.8%354 W · 473 L | +2.7wins | 0.00per pick | 42cpaid | -2.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x9c90…17efbacked No | 47c | 107.07$50 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$50.23 | 288 | 47.2%136 W · 152 L | +0.4wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | +3.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xc518…2594backed No | 59c | 105.99$63 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$62.72 | 1,928 | 53.5%1,032 W · 896 L | +39.0wins | +0.02per pick | 52cpaid | +2.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x74dd…2131backed No | 19c | 105.4$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$19.77 | 91 | 15.4%14 W · 77 L | +2.5wins | +0.03per pick | 13cpaid | -24.7%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x93cc…454ebacked No | 42c | 103.93$44 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$44.1 | 255 | 41.2%105 W · 150 L | +22.4wins | +0.09per pick | 32cpaid | +22.6%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0xf64a…db74backed Yes | 63c | 100.89$63 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$37.7 | 333 | 49.8%166 W · 167 L | -1.8wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -7.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb84c…e169backed No | 41c | 100$41 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$41 | 417 | 52%217 W · 200 L | -11.4wins | -0.03per pick | 55cpaid | -6.9%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x558f…1a56backed No | 40c | 98.01$39 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$39.35 | 548 | 67.3%369 W · 179 L | +26.4wins | +0.05per pick | 63cpaid | +10.6%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x4e72…ffb9backed Yes | 77c | 88.32$68 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20.45 | 2,102 | 56.5%1,188 W · 914 L | +61.4wins | +0.03per pick | 54cpaid | -3.9%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf7aa…ddd6backed No | 41c | 85.84$35 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$35.48 | 1,274 | 50.9%649 W · 625 L | -35.9wins | -0.03per pick | 54cpaid | -10.8%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x7956…eba5backed Yes | 54c | 83.28$45 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$38.28 | 1,048 | 38.1%399 W · 649 L | -3.8wins | 0.00per pick | 38cpaid | -3.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x9f20…12c3backed No | 44c | 77.54$34 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$33.94 | 4,104 | 56.6%2,322 W · 1,782 L | +50.5wins | +0.01per pick | 55cpaid | -6.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa4fb…32c8backed Yes | 60c | 75.03$45 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$30.28 | 91 | 46.2%42 W · 49 L | -0.8wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1f85…7b02backed No | 35c | 73.55$26 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25.75 | 2,068 | 55.9%1,156 W · 912 L | +44.2wins | +0.02per pick | 54cpaid | -5.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9cef…8fa3backed No | 43c | 72.38$31 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$31 | 393 | 46.6%183 W · 210 L | +29.9wins | +0.08per pick | 39cpaid | +18.9%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x29ae…c79fbacked Yes | 70c | 71.6$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.6 | 59 | 45.8%27 W · 32 L | -10.0wins | -0.17per pick | 63cpaid | -31.5%equal weight | 37-0.12 edge/pick |
| 0x1abc…45e7backed No | 37c | 71.24$27 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$26.67 | 2,099 | 58.3%1,224 W · 875 L | +83.2wins | +0.04per pick | 54cpaid | +0.5%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x2e1f…8fdebacked No | 30c | 70$21 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$21 | 982 | 36.7%360 W · 622 L | +37.9wins | +0.04per pick | 33cpaid | +9.2%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x122c…fbedbacked No | 25c | 67.68$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16.94 | 771 | 51%393 W · 378 L | +23.7wins | +0.03per pick | 48cpaid | -4.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x7e25…c7dbbacked No | 44c | 66$29 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$29.04 | 14 | 14.3%2 W · 12 L | -2.2wins | -0.16per pick | 30cpaid | -81.4%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x69f0…fb27backed No | 37c | 62.99$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$23.43 | 2,118 | 58.2%1,233 W · 885 L | +78.8wins | +0.04per pick | 54cpaid | -3%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa23b…b787backed Yes | 57c | 60$34 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$25.94 | 73 | 50.7%37 W · 36 L | +2.2wins | +0.03per pick | 48cpaid | +0.7%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x4add…6fe5backed Yes | 57c | 55$32 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$23.43 | 1,452 | 36.8%534 W · 918 L | +12.3wins | +0.01per pick | 36cpaid | -0.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xec62…9191backed Yes | 55c | 54.54$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24.54 | 1,102 | 40.7%448 W · 654 L | +18.7wins | +0.02per pick | 39cpaid | +3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xb40e…7cc9backed Yes | 54c | 53.36$29 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24.58 | 12,498 | 19.5%2,441 W · 10,057 L | -2,667.3wins | -0.21per pick | 41cpaid | -66.8%equal weight | 26-0.21 edge/pick |
| 0x2b40…ced4backed No | 49c | 50.03$24 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$24.39 | 958 | 52.5%503 W · 455 L | +103.2wins | +0.11per pick | 42cpaid | +9.4%equal weight | 62+0.11 edge/pick |
| 0x304b…a619backed No | 45c | 50$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.5 | 275 | 52%143 W · 132 L | +6.2wins | +0.02per pick | 50cpaid | +2.9%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x1d69…7a63backed No | 45c | 50$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.5 | 1,075 | 54.8%589 W · 486 L | -17.0wins | -0.02per pick | 56cpaid | -2.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x4248…60abbacked Yes | 55c | 48.89$27 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.85 | 2,219 | 58.7%1,303 W · 916 L | -11.5wins | -0.01per pick | 59cpaid | -2.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3653…ef74backed No | 41c | 46.16$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$18.82 | 2,124 | 57.4%1,220 W · 904 L | +69.9wins | +0.03per pick | 54cpaid | -2.7%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x13c3…fc7bbacked Yes | 56c | 45.41$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.98 | 4 | 50%2 W · 2 L | -0.1wins | -0.02per pick | 52cpaid | +7.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xad9d…e09dbacked Yes | 55c | 43.61$24 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.63 | 253 | 42.3%107 W · 146 L | +4.4wins | +0.02per pick | 41cpaid | +6.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xbb1a…1e6dbacked No | 28c | 40.88$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.63 | 1,359 | 30.2%411 W · 948 L | -92.9wins | -0.07per pick | 37cpaid | -22.9%equal weight | 43-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x72ed…203abacked Yes | 76c | 40$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.8 | 34 | 47.1%16 W · 18 L | -1.3wins | -0.04per pick | 51cpaid | -18.4%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2b27…ff88backed No | 34c | 40$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.6 | 98 | 49%48 W · 50 L | -6.1wins | -0.06per pick | 55cpaid | -13.1%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x97ce…ddadbacked Yes | 56c | 39.98$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$17.59 | 129 | 39.5%51 W · 78 L | +0.3wins | 0.00per pick | 39cpaid | -7.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x21ff…0d71backed No | 42c | 37.61$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15.69 | 5,897 | 49.4%2,913 W · 2,984 L | -103.3wins | -0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xbf13…b91abacked No | 46c | 37.38$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$17.24 | 264 | 42.4%112 W · 152 L | +12.8wins | +0.05per pick | 38cpaid | +16.7%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xcb32…79aabacked No | 34c | 37.21$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.61 | 1,187 | 62.2%738 W · 449 L | +27.8wins | +0.02per pick | 60cpaid | -2.1%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x8373…f0bcbacked No | 42c | 37$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15.65 | 178 | 59%105 W · 73 L | +2.7wins | +0.02per pick | 57cpaid | +1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x16c9…17afbacked Yes | 57c | 35.21$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.21 | 150 | 44.7%67 W · 83 L | +5.4wins | +0.04per pick | 41cpaid | +4.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x38e2…2909backed No | 43c | 34.88$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15 | 3,479 | 53%1,845 W · 1,634 L | +72.1wins | +0.02per pick | 51cpaid | +3.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe0e1…4995backed No | 44c | 34.04$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.98 | 63 | 46%29 W · 34 L | +1.4wins | +0.02per pick | 44cpaid | +37.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x005e…6d8ebacked Yes | 76c | 33.41$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.15 | 2,046 | 57%1,167 W · 879 L | +73.4wins | +0.04per pick | 53cpaid | -1.7%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xfbd8…4027backed No | 35c | 33$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.59 | 5,631 | 59.9%3,374 W · 2,257 L | -111.1wins | -0.02per pick | 62cpaid | -7.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe0fe…e62abacked No | 43c | 30$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.9 | 236 | 77.1%182 W · 54 L | +23.3wins | +0.10per pick | 67cpaid | +16.5%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x77ce…f364backed No | 45c | 29.78$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.4 | 4 | 50%2 W · 2 L | +0.1wins | +0.02per pick | 48cpaid | +11.8%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xa397…7817backed Yes | 52c | 28.85$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.85 | 140 | 53.6%75 W · 65 L | +5.4wins | +0.04per pick | 50cpaid | +8.1%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xc812…9350backed Yes | 57c | 27.95$16 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.02 | 4 | 50%2 W · 2 L | -0.4wins | -0.09per pick | 59cpaid | -20.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x29ef…dddabacked No | 49c | 26.66$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.11 | 182 | 47.3%86 W · 96 L | -10.7wins | -0.06per pick | 53cpaid | -11.9%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xb0c8…fe7fbacked No | 46c | 26.44$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.09 | 4,142 | 54.1%2,241 W · 1,901 L | -16.6wins | 0.00per pick | 55cpaid | -10.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8ce7…b17abacked Yes | 58c | 25.86$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.86 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | +0.2wins | +0.08per pick | 42cpaid | -13.8%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe0cd…d931backed No | 49c | 25.64$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.64 | 199 | 56.3%112 W · 87 L | -0.6wins | 0.00per pick | 57cpaid | 0%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x5425…4c65backed No | 44c | 25.14$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.11 | 278 | 52.9%147 W · 131 L | +1.3wins | 0.00per pick | 52cpaid | -0.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x7328…dbffbacked Yes | 51c | 25.1$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.37 | 1,122 | 24.4%274 W · 848 L | +24.8wins | +0.02per pick | 22cpaid | +6.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf73b…10bfbacked No | 44c | 24$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.56 | 283 | 44.5%126 W · 157 L | +6.9wins | +0.02per pick | 42cpaid | +6.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf51b…ca1bbacked Yes | 57c | 23.99$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.33 | 1,274 | 34%433 W · 841 L | +46.9wins | +0.04per pick | 30cpaid | +4.3%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x99bc…4f35backed Yes | 45c | 23.53$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.87 | 2,302 | 26.9%620 W · 1,682 L | -41.8wins | -0.02per pick | 29cpaid | -21.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xea12…993bbacked Yes | 69c | 20.38$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$6.35 | 87 | 44.8%39 W · 48 L | -9.2wins | -0.11per pick | 55cpaid | -16.3%equal weight | 41-0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x500e…7c9abacked Yes | 56c | 20$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.8 | 63 | 57.1%36 W · 27 L | -1.3wins | -0.02per pick | 59cpaid | -3.4%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x839e…f4d3backed Yes | 55c | 20$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9 | 10 | 30%3 W · 7 L | -1.0wins | -0.10per pick | 40cpaid | -45.2%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x3c11…33c9backed Yes | 65c | 20$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7 | 896 | 61.7%553 W · 343 L | +15.2wins | +0.02per pick | 60cpaid | +2.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe6b4…85d9backed Yes | 58c | 19.84$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.33 | 5 | 60%3 W · 2 L | -0.2wins | -0.04per pick | 64cpaid | -9.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x43cb…84dfbacked Yes | 71c | 19.57$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5.65 | 6,787 | 39.1%2,654 W · 4,133 L | +256.4wins | +0.04per pick | 35cpaid | -20.1%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Weather and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Will the highest temperature in Wellington be 12°C on August 20?this page
- Will the highest temperature in Wellington be 10°C on August 20?No won
- Will the highest temperature in Wellington be 11°C on August 20?No won
- Will the highest temperature in Wellington be 13°C on August 20?No won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.