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NFL · resolved market

Panthers vs. Jets

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Panthersof Panthers, Jets
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NFLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$2,662,480
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$2,800,807

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $2,662,480 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 915 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NFL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NFL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x7fb7…e33dbacked Jets50c1,075,788$534,283 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$534,283.2941851.9%217 W · 201 L+13.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xed88…f3c4backed Panthers50c903,056$451,477 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$451,579.228344.6%37 W · 46 L-3.6wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-9.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Panthers52c215,546$112,273 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103,273.5647738.6%184 W · 293 L-6.8wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-12.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1496…a429backed Jets50c163,370$81,685 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81,68527454.7%150 W · 124 L+13.3wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+11.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1fce…2229backed Panthers50c125,834$62,917 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62,916.931855.6%10 W · 8 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+10.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd38b…5029backed Panthers51c96,871$48,970 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47,901.5619553.8%105 W · 90 L+16.1wins+0.08per pick46cpaid+23.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xfc25…1f7fbacked Panthers50c74,361$37,237 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37,124.2112144.6%54 W · 67 L+6.4wins+0.05per pick39cpaid+15.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0d3b…c46bbacked Jets50c72,017$35,771 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35,771.1511145.9%51 W · 60 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4d45…9054backed Jets50c67,732$33,793 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33,793.1131350.2%157 W · 156 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Panthers73c58,328$42,374 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,954.1730043.7%131 W · 169 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-15.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1117…3532backed Panthers50c57,190$28,595 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28,595.0131240.7%127 W · 185 L-22.0wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-16.5%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x8058…d023backed Panthers51c53,133$27,282 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25,851.593268.8%22 W · 10 L+5.0wins+0.16per pick53cpaid+27.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xc996…bb65backed Jets18c52,695$9,728 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,727.8341947.3%198 W · 221 L+1.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Jets49c50,425$24,835 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,835.0114951%76 W · 73 L+4.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+10.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x090a…01b4backed Jets49c50,000$24,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,499.8916836.9%62 W · 106 L-5.3wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-4.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfe14…11eebacked Panthers52c45,152$23,479 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,672.991283.3%10 W · 2 L+2.9wins+0.24per pick59cpaid+44.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed Panthers50c41,111$20,444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,666.6120755.1%114 W · 93 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0584…de3ebacked Panthers52c38,462$20,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,461.54771.4%5 W · 2 L+1.4wins+0.20per pick52cpaid+30.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xfd2b…8e50backed Jets51c35,000$17,850 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,85010026%26 W · 74 L-2.7wins-0.03per pick29cpaid-5.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x83b9…6124backed Jets19c34,382$6,431 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,431.0722950.2%115 W · 114 L+9.5wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Jets21c30,502$6,259 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,258.6620026%52 W · 148 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick27cpaid-29.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Panthers50c20,000$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,00030743.6%134 W · 173 L-1.2wins0.00per pick44cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe895…c3dabacked Panthers50c20,000$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,0005048%24 W · 26 L+0.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid+8.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8f03…64d6backed Jets50c20,000$10,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,00024957%142 W · 107 L+12.6wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+12.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6f8b…01aabacked Jets50c20,000$10,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,0008343.4%36 W · 47 L+7.7wins+0.09per pick34cpaid+24%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x3850…c4b4backed Panthers50c20,000$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,0008946.1%41 W · 48 L+5.4wins+0.06per pick40cpaid+15.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3745…cf3bbacked Jets50c20,000$10,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,0004637%17 W · 29 L-5.3wins-0.12per pick49cpaid-24.3%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xecb1…5da3backed Jets46c20,000$9,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,299.9919645.4%89 W · 107 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-1.2%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x14c4…ae78backed Jets49c17,100$8,379 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,378.95425%1 W · 3 L-0.8wins-0.21per pick46cpaid-55.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Panthers51c16,292$8,356 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,936.4964747.3%306 W · 341 L+42.5wins+0.07per pick41cpaid+56.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x242e…ee63backed Jets52c15,488$7,997 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,996.81353.8%7 W · 6 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4231…f63ebacked Jets50c15,072$7,487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,487.2341248.5%200 W · 212 L-4.8wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x31c5…ede4backed Jets49c13,000$6,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,40016545.5%75 W · 90 L+4.2wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+12.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Panthers50c12,393$6,257 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,136.1153348.4%258 W · 275 L+1.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb786…b18dbacked Jets48c11,359$5,481 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,481.1831848.1%153 W · 165 L+5.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xade8…b0bdbacked Jets41c11,332$4,597 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,596.712552%13 W · 12 L+1.3wins+0.05per pick47cpaid-7.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x04b9…cdaabacked Jets49c11,308$5,508 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,507.9211649.1%57 W · 59 L-2.7wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4337…8882backed Jets50c11,111$5,556 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,555.510442.3%44 W · 60 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-17.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Panthers49c10,619$5,165 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,454.183147.8%397 W · 434 L+13.7wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4488…e319backed Jets51c10,000$5,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,10035848.6%174 W · 184 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7b88…5d08backed Panthers50c10,000$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,00018650%93 W · 93 L+9.3wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+14.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x220c…43c8backed Panthers51c10,000$5,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,9002065%13 W · 7 L+2.8wins+0.14per pick51cpaid+28.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Jets49c10,000$4,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,90051352.2%268 W · 245 L+16.0wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+12.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x576d…767dbacked Jets49c10,000$4,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,899.851145.5%5 W · 6 L-1.1wins-0.10per pick55cpaid-15.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd1fa…ae2ebacked Panthers52c9,800$5,096 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,704450%2 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.13per pick63cpaid-10.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfa21…1438backed Panthers50c9,530$4,765 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,7656459.4%38 W · 26 L+2.0wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+4.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x52d2…2280backed Jets45c8,622$3,917 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,917.42633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.4wins-0.23per pick56cpaid-43.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x88a2…d974backed Jets50c8,000$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,00013142%55 W · 76 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+0.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x6edc…18cebacked Panthers55c8,000$4,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,599.9917548%84 W · 91 L-3.4wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-10.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x53e5…6177backed Jets50c7,500$3,750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,75014450%72 W · 72 L+2.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+4.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2699…29f6backed Jets50c7,000$3,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,5003056.7%17 W · 13 L+0.1wins0.00per pick56cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x64b5…7543backed Panthers49c6,769$3,324 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,444.3314342%60 W · 83 L+6.9wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+10.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xc210…f0cabacked Jets49c6,735$3,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,3002638.5%10 W · 16 L-2.4wins-0.09per pick48cpaid-28.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x1d85…228ebacked Panthers51c6,667$3,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,266.673056.7%17 W · 13 L+1.3wins+0.04per pick52cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb789…706fbacked Jets49c6,500$3,185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,1852347.8%11 W · 12 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+5.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5d47…d0a2backed Panthers52c6,385$3,320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,064.621283.3%10 W · 2 L+3.5wins+0.29per pick54cpaid+53.3%equal weight61+0.09 edge/pick
0xa315…cabbbacked Jets47c6,150$2,870 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,87028447.5%135 W · 149 L-5.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Jets50c5,947$2,947 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,946.641,19649.9%597 W · 599 L+1.4wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcb43…3c74backed Jets36c5,656$2,033 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,033.0426547.2%125 W · 140 L+10.4wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+11.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xebc0…fa41backed Panthers76c5,584$4,244 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,340.1510462.5%65 W · 39 L+9.5wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+45.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xcc30…c8a5backed Panthers54c5,505$2,962 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,542.721850%9 W · 9 L+2.1wins+0.12per pick38cpaid+30.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc0fe…41fbbacked Panthers52c5,305$2,759 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,546.4366.7%2 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick68cpaid+6.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3904…0dcfbacked Jets49c5,300$2,597 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,597333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.16per pick49cpaid-57.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8768…dd9bbacked Panthers50c5,000$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,5001163.6%7 W · 4 L-0.8wins-0.07per pick70cpaid-10%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb45d…a406backed Jets24c4,907$1,202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,201.612138.8%47 W · 74 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Jets49c4,833$2,367 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,366.625956.8%147 W · 112 L+14.8wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+12.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2129…4222backed Jets46c4,512$2,075 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,074.8661148.6%297 W · 314 L+10.7wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xaf38…a59bbacked Jets47c4,387$2,062 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,061.924456.6%138 W · 106 L+17.3wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+17%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe212…d5f4backed Panthers56c4,226$2,387 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,839.136850%34 W · 34 L-6.1wins-0.09per pick59cpaid-15%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xe7ca…a175backed Panthers50c4,000$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,00025744.4%114 W · 143 L+0.3wins0.00per pick44cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d45…4418backed Jets50c4,000$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,000540%2 W · 3 L0.0wins0.00per pick40cpaid-18.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6c11…529bbacked Panthers52c3,850$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,849.641100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.48per pick52cpaid+92.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x759b…2ab3backed Panthers52c3,846$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,846.152259.1%13 W · 9 L+4.4wins+0.20per pick39cpaid+246.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xcce5…bdafbacked Jets49c3,817$1,872 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,872.321553.3%8 W · 7 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-7.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf6c0…722ebacked Panthers51c3,690$1,882 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,808.14671.7%33 W · 13 L+2.5wins+0.05per pick66cpaid+8.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Panthers52c3,685$1,916 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,768.6854451.7%281 W · 263 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Panthers53c3,473$1,844 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,628.1532050.9%163 W · 157 L+7.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcacf…35ffbacked Jets2c3,388$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.111486.8%10 W · 138 L+6.7wins+0.05per pick2cpaid+296.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9c09…c9b4backed Jets47c3,380$1,588 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,588.418140.9%74 W · 107 L-0.1wins0.00per pick41cpaid+42.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x00d6…aa44backed Jets46c3,229$1,485 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,485.343423.5%8 W · 26 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick22cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x709b…0a2dbacked Panthers51c3,000$1,530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,470475%3 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.12per pick63cpaid+21.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x58c0…0faabacked Jets50c3,000$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,500450%2 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.13per pick63cpaid-27.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1e1f…c855backed Jets55c3,000$1,650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,6502657.7%15 W · 11 L+1.1wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+4.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcbd6…bc18backed Panthers51c2,941$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,441.181764.7%11 W · 6 L+3.2wins+0.19per pick46cpaid+46%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Jets36c2,940$1,047 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,047.4927348.7%133 W · 140 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb13d…2e90backed Jets48c2,874$1,388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,387.7931854.7%174 W · 144 L+16.8wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+12.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3248…aad4backed Panthers50c2,840$1,420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,4202454.2%13 W · 11 L+3.8wins+0.16per pick38cpaid+52%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x024a…decbbacked Panthers52c2,821$1,467 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,354.086549.2%32 W · 33 L-2.9wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x205b…dd3cbacked Panthers51c2,661$1,357 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,303.9714148.2%68 W · 73 L-5.9wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-14.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x19ec…ca01backed Panthers51c2,599$1,326 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,273.71100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+96.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8f7a…db40backed Jets50c2,500$1,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,25018044.4%80 W · 100 L+3.3wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-0.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x778c…f3afbacked Panthers51c2,500$1,275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,2253815.8%6 W · 32 L-4.7wins-0.12per pick28cpaid-75.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x434c…0536backed Panthers51c2,500$1,275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,225475%3 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.12per pick63cpaid+21.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4fc1…ec92backed Jets49c2,500$1,212 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,212.4720646.1%95 W · 111 L+0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3a3e…afbdbacked Jets50c2,475$1,237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,237.4910%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x234c…813fbacked Jets51c2,424$1,236 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,236.2710%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb820…cbe7backed Jets19c2,374$451 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4514761.7%29 W · 18 L+3.8wins+0.08per pick54cpaid+21.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x4592…77aebacked Jets14c2,200$308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3081020%2 W · 8 L-1.1wins-0.11per pick31cpaid-61.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x32d5…4404backed Panthers51c2,199$1,121 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,077.311100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+96.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb1fe…9974backed Panthers55c2,052$1,120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$931.851250%6 W · 6 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NFL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 11 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.