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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: TheMongolz vs paiN (BO3) - Esports World Cup Group D

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
TheMongolzof TheMongolz, paiN
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$696,297
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$838,062

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $696,297 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 353 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xc64f…e677backed paiN40c106,442$42,577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42,576.74540%2 W · 3 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-31.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1610…ae49backed TheMongolz60c101,821$61,083 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40,737.4413548.9%66 W · 69 L+8.2wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+5.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x79ae…9a4abacked paiN41c47,942$19,656 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19,656.0414145.4%64 W · 77 L+4.7wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed TheMongolz69c44,699$30,894 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,804.71,39638.9%543 W · 853 L-41.2wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-29%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xcd30…f316backed paiN39c39,619$15,452 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15,451.5212249.2%60 W · 62 L+6.9wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+17.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x30c7…ac3bbacked paiN38c35,951$13,627 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,626.6175452.7%397 W · 357 L+27.1wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked TheMongolz60c32,380$19,404 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,975.661,71446.7%801 W · 913 L+1.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcd66…664fbacked TheMongolz59c31,642$18,669 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,973.2438358.7%225 W · 158 L-7.9wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-2.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf177…5f6abacked TheMongolz62c22,664$14,052 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,612.222060%12 W · 8 L+1.6wins+0.08per pick52cpaid+25.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xdfaf…d959backed paiN19c21,748$4,132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,132.113435.3%12 W · 22 L-2.8wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-23.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xcf60…a6f5backed TheMongolz61c15,000$9,150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,85050054.4%272 W · 228 L-9.9wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-3.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xadfa…324ebacked paiN40c15,000$6,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,00036152.6%190 W · 171 L+13.7wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa103…1c14backed paiN39c14,310$5,581 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,580.924650%23 W · 23 L+2.4wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+15.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x927c…6633backed TheMongolz75c11,000$8,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,7503040%12 W · 18 L-3.6wins-0.12per pick52cpaid-32.2%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x447d…5eeabacked TheMongolz75c11,000$8,241 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,758.823647.2%17 W · 19 L-1.7wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-22%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8d83…d89cbacked paiN40c10,986$4,394 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,394.45451.9%28 W · 26 L+3.7wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+19.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xd27c…c081backed TheMongolz61c10,500$6,405 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,0957766.2%51 W · 26 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick65cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0d7c…b7dbbacked TheMongolz61c8,013$4,888 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,125.1923646.2%109 W · 127 L-11.4wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-15%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xff80…9b4dbacked paiN23c7,937$1,787 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,786.532552.6%171 W · 154 L+11.7wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xad94…85b1backed TheMongolz61c7,632$4,663 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,969.481662.5%10 W · 6 L+2.9wins+0.18per pick44cpaid+29%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed paiN25c7,371$1,870 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,870.2187047.9%417 W · 453 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-14%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8adb…e4f6backed TheMongolz60c5,000$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,00029449.3%145 W · 149 L-10.3wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-8.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xc922…2618backed paiN40c5,000$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00026952.8%142 W · 127 L+12.9wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+12.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xdcaf…e271backed paiN38c5,000$1,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,899.9737946.4%176 W · 203 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked paiN18c4,800$864 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$863.971,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked TheMongolz79c4,000$3,160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8401,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x57b2…9da2backed paiN39c4,000$1,560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,56032345.2%146 W · 177 L+12.8wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+15.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed TheMongolz76c3,504$2,670 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$833.722,05741.5%853 W · 1,204 L-50.1wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5135…7217backed TheMongolz61c3,148$1,920 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,227.541,60552.6%845 W · 760 L+57.1wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked TheMongolz79c3,010$2,378 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$631.71,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x86b1…c094backed paiN19c3,000$570 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57056822.5%128 W · 440 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick23cpaid-5.9%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed TheMongolz79c3,000$2,370 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63088746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1f2d…2b35backed TheMongolz61c3,000$1,830 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,17015251.3%78 W · 74 L-3.8wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-6.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed TheMongolz61c3,000$1,830 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,17071645.9%329 W · 387 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed paiN37c2,549$938 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$937.52,61051.7%1,349 W · 1,261 L+16.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4097…9397backed TheMongolz78c2,537$1,971 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$565.543551.4%18 W · 17 L+1.4wins+0.04per pick48cpaid-8.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x5505…aa44backed paiN40c2,513$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$999.9938841.8%162 W · 226 L+8.1wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x806a…b7dabacked TheMongolz76c2,484$1,887 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$596.92161.9%13 W · 8 L+1.5wins+0.07per pick55cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8a2c…3c32backed TheMongolz62c2,419$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$919.3519061.6%117 W · 73 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick62cpaid-3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6f3e…bcf8backed paiN40c2,374$950 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$949.596152.5%32 W · 29 L0.0wins0.00per pick53cpaid-8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2064…240dbacked TheMongolz75c2,200$1,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$550560%3 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.05per pick65cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x86e9…4cdfbacked TheMongolz62c2,116$1,312 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$804.1636453.8%196 W · 168 L-8.0wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-6.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf4ec…c574backed TheMongolz61c2,029$1,240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$789.4848350.9%246 W · 237 L-20.9wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-10%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed TheMongolz59c2,000$1,180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$82051252.3%268 W · 244 L+16.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x73f6…a10abacked TheMongolz60c2,000$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8001353.8%7 W · 6 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-8.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb6e0…ff0fbacked TheMongolz60c2,000$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8002152.4%11 W · 10 L-0.9wins-0.04per pick57cpaid+7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed TheMongolz61c2,000$1,220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$779.981,08050.9%550 W · 530 L+38.2wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcc57…2b3cbacked TheMongolz61c1,967$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$767.2114659.6%87 W · 59 L+8.9wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+10.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2714…960fbacked paiN40c1,842$737 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$736.817954.2%97 W · 82 L+0.4wins0.00per pick54cpaid+4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed paiN20c1,773$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$360.365,81037.8%2,196 W · 3,614 L+78.9wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xe075…bf89backed TheMongolz73c1,734$1,272 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$462.3617146.2%79 W · 92 L+5.7wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+23%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x31c1…bc19backed TheMongolz61c1,639$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$639.3415862.7%99 W · 59 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+8.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6dcd…5ef7backed TheMongolz59c1,500$885 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61530153.8%162 W · 139 L-1.3wins0.00per pick54cpaid-4.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa9ca…6a8bbacked TheMongolz62c1,500$930 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57075145.4%341 W · 410 L-22.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd3e7…bf64backed paiN12c1,500$182 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$181.5456941.3%235 W · 334 L-21.0wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-11%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5f8e…21b7backed paiN17c1,493$254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$253.8614949.7%74 W · 75 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-11.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1af1…8bd4backed TheMongolz77c1,440$1,103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$336.735143.1%22 W · 29 L-3.5wins-0.07per pick50cpaid-20.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x136b…c35abacked TheMongolz75c1,440$1,077 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$363.35850%4 W · 4 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-20%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x182d…73e9backed TheMongolz61c1,400$854 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54678639.4%310 W · 476 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9ab3…3044backed TheMongolz62c1,292$801 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$490.91,06242.2%448 W · 614 L-11.6wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4a55…a82abacked paiN27c1,226$325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32511146.8%52 W · 59 L-2.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-11.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbe6c…a2c3backed paiN41c1,220$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5002356.5%13 W · 10 L+1.8wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+6.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x051c…ca3fbacked TheMongolz62c1,200$744 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45635347.9%169 W · 184 L-12.0wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x53ab…65aabacked paiN39c1,111$433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$433.281,14449.4%565 W · 579 L+16.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xd592…9618backed paiN19c1,005$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1916752.2%35 W · 32 L+1.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xba27…ac4abacked paiN10c1,000$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1002429.2%7 W · 17 L-1.3wins-0.06per pick35cpaid-27.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x74f9…6024backed paiN17c1,000$170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1703438.2%13 W · 21 L-2.8wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-28.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbadb…31a7backed TheMongolz62c1,000$620 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38011844.9%53 W · 65 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-5.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x60e3…57b5backed TheMongolz60c1,000$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40020859.6%124 W · 84 L-6.6wins-0.03per pick63cpaid-7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9bd1…864bbacked TheMongolz63c1,000$630 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3702857.1%16 W · 12 L+2.0wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x64ef…befcbacked TheMongolz60c1,000$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4001952.6%10 W · 9 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick54cpaid+16.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8be4…a700backed TheMongolz61c999.99$610 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3905253.8%28 W · 24 L-4.1wins-0.08per pick62cpaid-15.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xaf6f…9f0abacked TheMongolz77c989.11$765 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2246251.6%32 W · 30 L+2.3wins+0.04per pick48cpaid-1.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked paiN40c946.81$377 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$377.491,76859.2%1,047 W · 721 L+105.5wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+4.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x9e3e…f882backed paiN50c946.6$469 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$469.4667645%304 W · 372 L-24.2wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-17.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5d7e…2ef7backed TheMongolz50c929.87$465 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$464.9416858.9%99 W · 69 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick60cpaid-5.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5944…764ebacked TheMongolz61c904.44$552 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$352.737450%37 W · 37 L-4.6wins-0.06per pick56cpaid-12.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6b0e…0517backed TheMongolz61c820$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$319.82236.4%8 W · 14 L-2.5wins-0.11per pick48cpaid-30%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb39b…9826backed TheMongolz60c818.08$491 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$327.08771.4%5 W · 2 L+1.5wins+0.21per pick51cpaid+26.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xeefa…f400backed TheMongolz59c800$472 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3282445.8%11 W · 13 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick43cpaid-5.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7069…325bbacked paiN38c799.99$304 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30494445.7%431 W · 513 L+17.8wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+6.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc2fe…71d6backed TheMongolz62c791.82$491 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$300.899048.9%44 W · 46 L+1.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+10.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xefbc…b344backed TheMongolz71c784.35$559 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$225.440542%170 W · 235 L-10.4wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-17%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xbc0c…dac0backed TheMongolz63c743.02$468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$274.740175.1%301 W · 100 L+20.2wins+0.05per pick70cpaid+6.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xb421…8856backed paiN19c731.58$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13921550.2%108 W · 107 L+5.6wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+8.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7f88…c6e8backed TheMongolz61c706.4$433 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$273.239033.3%30 W · 60 L-3.7wins-0.04per pick37cpaid-21%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xdda3…d55fbacked TheMongolz62c700$434 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2668744.8%39 W · 48 L-0.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb775…36f5backed TheMongolz62c700$434 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26622757.3%130 W · 97 L+10.2wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+15.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7c12…4b54backed paiN24c700$165 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1652020%4 W · 16 L-1.9wins-0.10per pick30cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked TheMongolz61c678$414 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$264.4264852%337 W · 311 L+10.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb18c…694fbacked TheMongolz71c648.56$461 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$187.23256.3%18 W · 14 L+1.8wins+0.06per pick51cpaid-0.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7787…bf58backed paiN49c633.88$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$312.183542.9%15 W · 20 L-1.2wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-4.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa033…4938backed TheMongolz73c600$438 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1628545.9%39 W · 46 L+2.2wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfbaf…2a03backed TheMongolz61c599.99$366 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23411341.6%47 W · 66 L+5.5wins+0.05per pick37cpaid-2.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked TheMongolz56c594.82$330 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$264.537,89250.5%3,983 W · 3,909 L+182.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked paiN22c593.62$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.262,11942.9%909 W · 1,210 L-66.7wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-19.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xeef6…cd4cbacked TheMongolz61c583.99$356 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.7616749.1%82 W · 85 L+0.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid+3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed TheMongolz60c525$315 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21026360.8%160 W · 103 L-13.4wins-0.05per pick66cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x420d…7540backed TheMongolz80c522$418 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.4633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.1wins-0.19per pick52cpaid-45.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2d40…ec52backed TheMongolz61c500$305 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19538954.5%212 W · 177 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 7 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.