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NBA · resolved market

Rockets vs. Suns

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Rocketsof Rockets, Suns
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,183,678
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,260,463

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,183,678 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 755 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x94d7…bef5backed Suns22c115,318$24,894 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,893.8125925.9%67 W · 192 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick23cpaid+8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Suns16c69,809$11,456 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,456.441,19032%381 W · 809 L-58.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-34.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Suns33c50,551$16,644 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,644.272,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0140…9028backed Suns33c40,000$13,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,2004544.4%20 W · 25 L+2.6wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+12.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed Rockets69c36,232$25,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,231.8834062.1%211 W · 129 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Rockets72c30,486$21,985 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,501.185,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Rockets67c30,000$20,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,899.9238248.7%186 W · 196 L+13.9wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+0.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe405…bf91backed Rockets68c29,250$20,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,249.8948448.8%236 W · 248 L-5.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Rockets68c25,263$17,278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,985.544,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbddf…c684backed Suns31c18,176$5,634 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,634.4672648.3%351 W · 375 L+30.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x439b…2c9abacked Suns30c16,641$4,948 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,947.5712843.8%56 W · 72 L-8.1wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-10.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd6ce…0772backed Rockets67c15,299$10,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,048.6711741.9%49 W · 68 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6ce2…e868backed Rockets68c15,000$10,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,8005850%29 W · 29 L-2.0wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-17.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x817b…3c25backed Suns14c14,000$2,030 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,029.921,04841.1%431 W · 617 L+23.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x90ab…ded1backed Suns34c13,309$4,564 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,5647745.5%35 W · 42 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+8.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Rockets67c12,102$8,104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,998.4669852%363 W · 335 L+10.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Suns32c11,211$3,612 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,611.8976850.3%386 W · 382 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x057a…3bacbacked Rockets79c10,525$8,287 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,238.8226038.1%99 W · 161 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-24%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x8c81…dcd3backed Suns31c10,000$3,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,10046342.5%197 W · 266 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe16e…18d4backed Rockets68c9,000$6,120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,880933.3%3 W · 6 L-1.1wins-0.12per pick45cpaid+24.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0a59…770cbacked Suns23c8,904$2,078 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,078.466665.2%43 W · 23 L+1.7wins+0.03per pick63cpaid-3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4c03…0cc1backed Suns1c8,868$89 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$88.681,60211.8%189 W · 1,413 L-4.8wins0.00per pick12cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x16b2…a881backed Rockets66c7,807$5,153 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,654.452,29851.7%1,188 W · 1,110 L+65.4wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x85a4…896cbacked Rockets68c7,382$5,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,362.21366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick51cpaid+30.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3a7a…15a4backed Suns27c7,339$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00031044.8%139 W · 171 L+1.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x06e6…87e6backed Suns33c7,187$2,367 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,366.6344648%214 W · 232 L-12.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Rockets71c7,078$5,022 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,056.83,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5b8e…5c3cbacked Rockets67c7,007$4,710 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,296.4544459.7%265 W · 179 L+12.4wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Suns31c6,495$2,020 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,020.029,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdefe…5432backed Rockets66c6,382$4,212 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,170.047468.9%51 W · 23 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick67cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4c14…7bc1backed Suns35c5,642$1,982 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,981.511142.3%47 W · 64 L-4.9wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-9.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xec13…862bbacked Rockets67c5,555$3,722 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,833.128850.3%145 W · 143 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd2b2…d101backed Rockets68c5,147$3,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,647.0616251.9%84 W · 78 L+0.6wins0.00per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfc25…1f7fbacked Rockets66c5,013$3,316 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,696.4196447.8%461 W · 503 L+35.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+17.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8980…d4f4backed Suns32c5,000$1,620 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,619.9521951.1%112 W · 107 L+7.4wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+9.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Rockets67c4,500$3,015 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,484.994,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4278…0e92backed Suns33c4,250$1,403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,402.541652.2%217 W · 199 L+1.2wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Rockets74c4,175$3,098 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,077.471,34129.9%401 W · 940 L-53.8wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Rockets67c4,090$2,757 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,333.533,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7412…85d0backed Rockets68c4,006$2,714 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,292.0826544.9%119 W · 146 L-8.7wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-4.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3c59…2848backed Rockets70c3,884$2,709 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,175.142846.4%13 W · 15 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-8.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Rockets78c3,849$3,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$828.482,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Suns15c3,475$523 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$523.073,34243.4%1,450 W · 1,892 L+81.2wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-0.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x0432…1660backed Suns14c3,475$487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$486.513345.5%15 W · 18 L+1.0wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+21.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Suns13c3,303$442 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$442.4885742.6%365 W · 492 L-15.6wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-13.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7546…3a91backed Suns34c3,235$1,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,1002445.8%11 W · 13 L+1.2wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+13.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2839…0efebacked Suns31c3,234$1,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,002.491741.2%7 W · 10 L0.0wins0.00per pick41cpaid-7.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0a7e…fce4backed Suns32c3,200$1,009 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,008.9861835.4%219 W · 399 L+7.8wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+6.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3c82…e0cbbacked Suns20c3,092$623 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$622.5227041.5%112 W · 158 L+10.7wins+0.04per pick38cpaid+2.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4701…7954backed Suns32c3,000$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$960560%3 W · 2 L+0.9wins+0.19per pick41cpaid+84.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Rockets67c3,000$2,010 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$989.991,19746.7%559 W · 638 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52ec…a6f3backed Rockets66c3,000$1,980 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,019.9943051.4%221 W · 209 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6ade…f5b0backed Rockets67c3,000$2,010 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$989.981,55652.8%822 W · 734 L+40.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+10.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3ffb…df76backed Suns35c2,857$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$999.9347048.5%228 W · 242 L-18.6wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-7.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfbb3…d38ebacked Suns32c2,823$903 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$903.343455.9%19 W · 15 L+1.0wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+8.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Suns22c2,773$604 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$603.911,40940.2%567 W · 842 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7591…9829backed Rockets67c2,690$1,802 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$887.614544.4%20 W · 25 L-3.1wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-20%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x59b6…307fbacked Rockets80c2,639$2,098 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$540.6727152%141 W · 130 L-17.9wins-0.07per pick59cpaid-12.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x9ecd…a578backed Rockets68c2,480$1,686 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$793.623135.1%81 W · 150 L-11.1wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-11.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd561…218cbacked Suns16c2,455$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400250%1 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.11per pick39cpaid-19.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcd3a…67cabacked Suns24c2,415$578 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$578.2350838.2%194 W · 314 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x62fb…4d60backed Rockets63c2,343$1,479 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$863.3535547.3%168 W · 187 L+6.1wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+4.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x306a…0d29backed Rockets69c2,300$1,587 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7138048.8%39 W · 41 L-5.0wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-12.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbfc6…ce6bbacked Suns15c2,190$335 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$334.571241.7%5 W · 7 L+0.7wins+0.06per pick36cpaid-31.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x20b9…9110backed Suns10c2,176$221 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$221.413950.4%70 W · 69 L-7.4wins-0.05per pick56cpaid+9.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x0d08…d21bbacked Rockets67c2,059$1,380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$679.471050%5 W · 5 L-1.3wins-0.13per pick63cpaid-23.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2ac2…4fcfbacked Suns34c2,059$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$700757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.4wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+6.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x0d16…85f3backed Rockets68c2,059$1,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$658.824742.6%20 W · 27 L-3.5wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-2.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8d83…d3f2backed Suns16c2,009$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311.551136.4%4 W · 7 L-1.2wins-0.11per pick47cpaid-41.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Rockets67c2,000$1,333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$667.512,79650.3%1,405 W · 1,391 L+27.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa5cf…8cc5backed Rockets65c2,000$1,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70043247.5%205 W · 227 L+11.4wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+3.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xccdd…aab4backed Suns32c2,000$640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6401457.1%8 W · 6 L+2.1wins+0.15per pick42cpaid+52.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8526…3b5dbacked Suns33c2,000$653 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$653.336636.4%24 W · 42 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1d3a…7b63backed Rockets64c2,000$1,280 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72076249.5%377 W · 385 L-8.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid+0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd9dd…b525backed Suns24c2,000$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48044337.9%168 W · 275 L-0.7wins0.00per pick38cpaid-9.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x062a…c2a3backed Rockets66c2,000$1,320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$679.9719048.4%92 W · 98 L+4.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+25.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Suns32c1,981$634 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$633.9292753.5%496 W · 431 L+20.1wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa250…ca0fbacked Suns33c1,970$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$650728.6%2 W · 5 L-0.8wins-0.11per pick40cpaid-44.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xedb1…819ebacked Rockets68c1,941$1,320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$621.1815855.7%88 W · 70 L-9.8wins-0.06per pick62cpaid-10.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcdf3…1bb5backed Suns32c1,875$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$599.9912239.3%48 W · 74 L-6.6wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-9.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0d20…f812backed Suns14c1,823$258 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25860346.4%280 W · 323 L-12.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xec8b…152bbacked Rockets67c1,760$1,179 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$580.9515945.9%73 W · 86 L-4.8wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd162…0d24backed Suns28c1,713$484 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4844843.8%21 W · 27 L+4.8wins+0.10per pick34cpaid+33.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x5fa9…a36dbacked Suns33c1,618$528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$527.6724038.3%92 W · 148 L-8.1wins-0.03per pick42cpaid+2.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x60cc…f0dfbacked Suns31c1,613$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50010852.8%57 W · 51 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7c85…77c6backed Suns22c1,600$348 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34870153.5%375 W · 326 L+6.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x685e…6f30backed Suns26c1,600$416 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41610757.9%62 W · 45 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-5.7%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xc7e5…2d3abacked Suns32c1,563$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50065339.5%258 W · 395 L-24.6wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-10.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x41e2…5487backed Rockets67c1,551$1,039 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$511.98922.2%2 W · 7 L-1.7wins-0.18per pick41cpaid-68.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xc3b0…28f6backed Suns33c1,515$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5003246.9%15 W · 17 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-10.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Rockets67c1,510$1,012 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$498.281,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc1b3…501cbacked Rockets67c1,500$1,007 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4938445.2%38 W · 46 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x69c2…40cfbacked Suns22c1,500$326 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32648132.6%157 W · 324 L-2.0wins0.00per pick33cpaid+2.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x22e6…409fbacked Suns31c1,500$465 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46519441.2%80 W · 114 L-3.9wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-8.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Suns32c1,500$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4801,82052.1%948 W · 872 L+48.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xaf90…fa89backed Suns32c1,500$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$480650%3 W · 3 L+0.4wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+46.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xe403…3d50backed Rockets67c1,493$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.6954747.5%260 W · 287 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xeb6b…943abacked Rockets68c1,453$988 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$464.9415461.7%95 W · 59 L+5.8wins+0.04per pick58cpaid+1.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe8c9…dfeabacked Rockets70c1,414$983 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$431.054259.5%25 W · 17 L-2.7wins-0.07per pick66cpaid-11.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Suns33c1,410$464 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$463.6555346.8%259 W · 294 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 12 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.