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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: Natus Vincere vs Astralis (BO3) - PGL Cluj-Napoca Group Stage

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Natus Vincereof Natus Vincere, Astralis
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$301,948
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$312,135

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $301,948 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 378 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x99e4…e4c4backed Astralis33c48,961$16,157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,157.121842.7%93 W · 125 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc257…358ebacked Natus Vincere63c27,078$17,060 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,017.239249%192 W · 200 L+0.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x25e2…9a09backed Natus Vincere67c25,500$17,085 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,4152060%12 W · 8 L-1.2wins-0.06per pick66cpaid-12.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf2d2…c2b9backed Astralis32c24,720$7,988 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,988.4410%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.32per pick32cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked Astralis33c20,000$6,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,60075758.3%441 W · 316 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Astralis38c19,652$7,468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,467.7621051%107 W · 103 L0.0wins0.00per pick51cpaid-4.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1eb0…d25bbacked Astralis32c15,807$4,984 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,983.6227133.2%90 W · 181 L-12.8wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-23.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x9d2a…9ee3backed Natus Vincere70c11,200$7,838 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,361.1921650.9%110 W · 106 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-3.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb7f5…c669backed Astralis30c10,000$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,00067041.8%280 W · 390 L-5.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed Astralis34c10,000$3,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,40019645.4%89 W · 107 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-11.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb726…0664backed Natus Vincere74c8,119$6,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,118.8812649.2%62 W · 64 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x21ec…5348backed Natus Vincere66c8,000$5,280 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,719.9672453.7%389 W · 335 L+11.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9c30…54a2backed Natus Vincere68c6,436$4,354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,081.963066.7%20 W · 10 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick68cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Natus Vincere68c6,324$4,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,023.5381751.7%422 W · 395 L-6.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbf5e…4e1abacked Astralis31c6,048$1,894 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,893.6212038.3%46 W · 74 L-8.1wins-0.07per pick45cpaid-18.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed Natus Vincere66c4,500$2,970 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,529.9871645.9%329 W · 387 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Natus Vincere77c4,371$3,357 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,014.063,25650.3%1,637 W · 1,619 L+97.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4440…959abacked Natus Vincere69c4,216$2,909 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,306.531643.8%7 W · 9 L-1.0wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-22.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xd27c…c081backed Natus Vincere71c3,958$2,791 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,167.47766.2%51 W · 26 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick65cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5674…8b14backed Astralis28c3,901$1,108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,10836742.8%157 W · 210 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc6bc…5a82backed Natus Vincere69c3,848$2,638 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,210.18250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-27.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Astralis21c3,174$651 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$651.451,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe2a6…9837backed Natus Vincere69c3,090$2,132 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$957.94643.5%20 W · 26 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick45cpaid+21.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x77a3…0e3fbacked Astralis33c3,030$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00026045%117 W · 143 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7951…bb41backed Astralis32c3,016$970 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$969.6896740.7%394 W · 573 L+12.6wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+7.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed Astralis14c2,892$405 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$404.933043.3%143 W · 187 L+1.5wins0.00per pick43cpaid-1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Astralis29c2,800$817 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8171,40833.7%475 W · 933 L+43.0wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+8.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed Natus Vincere67c2,754$1,845 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$908.6826360.8%160 W · 103 L-13.4wins-0.05per pick66cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbe61…4665backed Natus Vincere69c2,467$1,702 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$764.7333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.9wins-0.31per pick64cpaid-51.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x94f8…e851backed Natus Vincere67c2,279$1,524 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$755.397060%42 W · 28 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick59cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed Natus Vincere64c2,221$1,416 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$804.991,08050.9%550 W · 530 L+38.2wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Astralis26c2,126$555 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$554.532,05741.5%853 W · 1,204 L-50.1wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7791…af80backed Astralis31c2,017$625 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$625.44837.5%3 W · 5 L-0.5wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-17.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Natus Vincere70c1,937$1,354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$582.3938037.4%142 W · 238 L-14.8wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-26.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xb555…0c4bbacked Astralis18c1,887$340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$339.779038.9%35 W · 55 L-4.3wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-32.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7b8e…9338backed Natus Vincere68c1,824$1,240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$583.6475%3 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.04per pick71cpaid+8.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked Astralis12c1,818$218 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$218.1597952.4%513 W · 466 L+26.4wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x10b2…b77ebacked Astralis32c1,811$580 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$579.68250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-33.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Astralis8c1,810$143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$142.761,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5031…1ffbbacked Astralis33c1,622$543 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$543.344163.4%26 W · 15 L+4.2wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+16.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xd5a1…0544backed Natus Vincere67c1,579$1,053 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$526.2716750.9%85 W · 82 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x994d…3d8dbacked Astralis32c1,524$488 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$487.6352834.3%181 W · 347 L-6.4wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-13.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe283…7190backed Natus Vincere67c1,493$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.5496545.7%441 W · 524 L+10.9wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6b54…0b79backed Natus Vincere67c1,482$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$481.563778.4%29 W · 8 L+6.8wins+0.18per pick60cpaid+27.6%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xebe7…ddf5backed Natus Vincere69c1,449$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$449.2834156.6%193 W · 148 L+2.8wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x653a…4d06backed Natus Vincere67c1,418$946 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$472.54771.4%5 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick73cpaid+4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x033e…1bb9backed Astralis37c1,351$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.8120050.5%101 W · 99 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick52cpaid+37.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf6f9…bff5backed Astralis31c1,260$391 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$390.626046.9%122 W · 138 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-12%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x69aa…e28bbacked Natus Vincere67c1,228$823 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$405.362755.6%15 W · 12 L-2.7wins-0.10per pick66cpaid-17.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x586f…ce5dbacked Astralis34c1,200$408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4081450%7 W · 7 L+1.0wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+16.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5984…76ebbacked Astralis35c1,153$403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40352236.8%192 W · 330 L+20.2wins+0.04per pick33cpaid+11.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Astralis28c1,142$319 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$318.883,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Astralis36c1,111$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$399.962917.2%5 W · 24 L-4.6wins-0.16per pick33cpaid-52.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x5bd3…394cbacked Astralis34c1,096$370 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$370.399349.5%46 W · 47 L+1.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x213f…1da2backed Astralis33c1,076$355 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$355.0310244.1%45 W · 57 L+0.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x14a0…22bbbacked Natus Vincere72c1,030$742 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$287.781,39365.9%918 W · 475 L+26.8wins+0.02per pick64cpaid+1.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbbef…d421backed Natus Vincere70c1,000$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$300475%3 W · 1 L+1.2wins+0.30per pick45cpaid+47.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x7d91…bb2abacked Natus Vincere68c1,000$680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3203066.7%20 W · 10 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick66cpaid-2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6c47…7a9fbacked Astralis32c1,000$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32014137.6%53 W · 88 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xed2c…9597backed Astralis32c1,000$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32012150.4%61 W · 60 L+5.1wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-0.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x12c0…692bbacked Astralis31c999.98$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309.996048.3%29 W · 31 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x17cd…7423backed Astralis34c909.88$309 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309.3646143.4%200 W · 261 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+0.5%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Natus Vincere80c907.14$724 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$182.661,56729.8%467 W · 1,100 L-86.0wins-0.05per pick35cpaid-39%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9c88…1275backed Natus Vincere67c891.04$597 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$294.04250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-25.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb936…0a66backed Natus Vincere67c888.94$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$288.94875%6 W · 2 L+0.3wins+0.04per pick71cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x96f0…a122backed Astralis34c882.35$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300728.6%2 W · 5 L-0.9wins-0.14per pick42cpaid-16.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8f13…daaebacked Astralis31c871.21$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$269.5216135.4%57 W · 104 L-5.4wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-22.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4651…8da8backed Astralis12c866.4$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$103.97825%2 W · 6 L+0.3wins+0.03per pick22cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6dc0…699abacked Astralis10c823.54$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79.761,18122.5%266 W · 915 L+3.6wins0.00per pick22cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Astralis24c817.99$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.66,46642.9%2,777 W · 3,689 L-78.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe779…335ebacked Natus Vincere66c800$528 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272250%1 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.13per pick63cpaid-24.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Natus Vincere74c793$585 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$208.3832930.4%100 W · 229 L-21.9wins-0.07per pick37cpaid-50.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf56d…9eeabacked Astralis30c776.96$236 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$236.4214853.4%79 W · 69 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+8.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x50ac…a924backed Astralis14c764.71$107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.0613850%69 W · 69 L-5.9wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-12.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xb963…3fa0backed Natus Vincere67c750.15$503 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$247.5550043%215 W · 285 L-10.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-4.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x26e9…4a51backed Natus Vincere63c750$473 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$277.56248.4%30 W · 32 L-0.2wins0.00per pick49cpaid+4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x076b…354cbacked Natus Vincere67c746.27$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.274100%4 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.24per pick76cpaid+32.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xdf05…3e27backed Natus Vincere67c746.27$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.271050%5 W · 5 L-1.0wins-0.10per pick60cpaid-21.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa89c…398fbacked Astralis34c729.99$248 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$248.22128.6%6 W · 15 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick30cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2ae9…0801backed Astralis35c717.82$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$250862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.5wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+2.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xb187…bbe1backed Natus Vincere66c702$463 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$238.681060%6 W · 4 L+0.6wins+0.06per pick54cpaid-0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcf41…bfd4backed Astralis34c700$235 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$235425%1 W · 3 L-0.3wins-0.07per pick32cpaid-48.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa632…4c96backed Astralis33c681.82$225 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2257149.3%35 W · 36 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6179…6f80backed Astralis28c644.37$179 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$179.0850340.2%202 W · 301 L+5.4wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2560…0b02backed Natus Vincere67c627.99$419 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$208.622448.7%109 W · 115 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb0b4…834ebacked Natus Vincere74c619.75$460 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$159.759561.1%58 W · 37 L-3.1wins-0.03per pick64cpaid-7.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7da6…4ff3backed Astralis22c606.38$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.410053%53 W · 47 L+5.0wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf5a7…63e7backed Astralis34c600$204 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20410538.1%40 W · 65 L-8.5wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-23.5%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xc694…1171backed Astralis13c600$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7847441.6%197 W · 277 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-13.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0303…1770backed Natus Vincere67c597.01$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.012100%2 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.27per pick73cpaid+37.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb1ec…9c6dbacked Natus Vincere67c597.01$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.017255.6%40 W · 32 L-3.0wins-0.04per pick60cpaid-9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed Natus Vincere67c596$399 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$196.6860248.7%293 W · 309 L+0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe4cb…d9d2backed Natus Vincere68c592$403 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$189.44862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick60cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x33d0…f7ebbacked Astralis34c591.18$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20140%0 W · 4 L-1.1wins-0.28per pick28cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x48de…95babacked Astralis32c569.35$180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$180.3314744.2%65 W · 82 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked Astralis33c561.28$185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1851,62144.8%726 W · 895 L+3.6wins0.00per pick45cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Astralis30c555.54$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.665,81037.8%2,196 W · 3,614 L+78.9wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x389a…cf3dbacked Natus Vincere67c510$342 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$168.34953.1%26 W · 23 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x851a…2e1bbacked Natus Vincere67c502.99$337 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$165.992100%2 W · 0 L+0.8wins+0.40per pick60cpaid+67.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6e3e…e3ebbacked Natus Vincere67c500$335 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16510163.4%64 W · 37 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick64cpaid-2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.