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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: illwill vs Nuclear TigeRES (BO3) - NODWIN Clutch Series Playoffs

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
illwillof illwill, Nuclear TigeRES
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$53,053
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$54,398

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $53,053 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 136 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x2606…ba10backed Nuclear TigeRES48c12,374$5,913 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,913.373956.4%22 W · 17 L-1.8wins-0.05per pick61cpaid-8.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked illwill44c9,561$4,230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,331.453,25650.3%1,637 W · 1,619 L+97.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6551…e043backed Nuclear TigeRES48c7,000$3,360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,359.963158.1%18 W · 13 L+2.8wins+0.09per pick49cpaid+8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3a95…343bbacked illwill52c6,493$3,376 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,116.591442.9%6 W · 8 L+0.9wins+0.06per pick36cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked illwill53c5,714$3,029 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,684.517,89250.5%3,983 W · 3,909 L+182.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4b59…3aa6backed Nuclear TigeRES48c4,000$1,920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,919.9984658.4%494 W · 352 L+60.7wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+15.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed illwill45c1,263$571 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$692.16,46642.9%2,777 W · 3,689 L-78.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd8b6…c7dbbacked Nuclear TigeRES51c1,100$560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$559.9436253.3%193 W · 169 L+6.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed illwill54c1,075$577 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$497.54,22049.2%2,078 W · 2,142 L+61.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x36d8…c7c7backed illwill52c965.27$499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$466.1957641.5%239 W · 337 L-8.3wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7140…47e3backed illwill52c933.85$486 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$448.2510651.9%55 W · 51 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-6.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbf3b…0375backed illwill52c768.87$399 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$369.3839145.8%179 W · 212 L-7.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf6ee…0e41backed illwill50c731.99$366 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3661,03739.8%413 W · 624 L+20.4wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0d42…f124backed Nuclear TigeRES48c718.5$348 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$348.0917644.9%79 W · 97 L+9.4wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+9.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xab6a…3319backed illwill55c710.33$389 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$321.185858.6%34 W · 24 L+2.7wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+15.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Nuclear TigeRES44c677.86$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.154,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5674…8b14backed illwill42c643.95$271 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$372.6536742.8%157 W · 210 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed Nuclear TigeRES48c626.2$301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.5835153.8%189 W · 162 L+12.5wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9fca…e8edbacked illwill52c622.9$323 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$299.792035%7 W · 13 L-0.9wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-33.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2529…548abacked illwill47c577.02$273 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$303.653,21751.3%1,649 W · 1,568 L+89.2wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x058e…a2acbacked illwill51c565.6$291 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$274.334837.5%18 W · 30 L-7.9wins-0.17per pick54cpaid-33%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x8ddc…9c0fbacked illwill54c503.89$272 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$232.3729044.8%130 W · 160 L-7.2wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-2.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xdc98…5308backed illwill52c442.8$229 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$213.661136.4%4 W · 7 L-1.8wins-0.16per pick52cpaid-35.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x906f…2877backed Nuclear TigeRES50c434.49$217 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$216.8864554.4%351 W · 294 L+25.9wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+7.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa16b…b541backed Nuclear TigeRES44c420.02$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.7343055.1%237 W · 193 L+13.9wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8e8c…65ddbacked Nuclear TigeRES44c419.63$185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$184.6484454.3%458 W · 386 L+4.6wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9902…34b3backed illwill50c419.09$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$209.493828.9%11 W · 27 L-1.8wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-42.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Nuclear TigeRES50c375.95$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$187.355,81037.8%2,196 W · 3,614 L+78.9wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x4d62…5409backed illwill52c373.54$194 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$179.348562.7%304 W · 181 L+2.8wins+0.01per pick62cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xaa0f…574cbacked illwill52c373.54$194 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$179.32263.6%14 W · 8 L+0.6wins+0.03per pick61cpaid-3.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked illwill52c353.02$182 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$170.75,47446.9%2,565 W · 2,909 L+38.6wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-4.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8bec…7800backed illwill51c341.03$173 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$168.4133148.3%160 W · 171 L+6.7wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd3d1…f540backed Nuclear TigeRES49c323.09$158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$158.3217849.4%88 W · 90 L+5.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2b85…bf37backed illwill51c304.08$156 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$148.0619850.5%100 W · 98 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-11.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3996…1b4fbacked Nuclear TigeRES49c299.99$147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1473751.4%19 W · 18 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0d78…b8b9backed Nuclear TigeRES49c298.44$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.3816450.6%83 W · 81 L+6.0wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+6.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x30db…44e1backed illwill52c295.62$154 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$141.94555.6%25 W · 20 L0.0wins0.00per pick56cpaid-3.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d29…c9eebacked illwill56c289.55$164 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$125.961850%9 W · 9 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-10.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd9a5…c602backed illwill47c277.76$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$147.4433237%123 W · 209 L-1.4wins0.00per pick37cpaid-11.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf42a…7ef9backed illwill50c259.89$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$129.912100%2 W · 0 L+0.8wins+0.38per pick62cpaid+67.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4ec3…34a7backed illwill53c259.78$137 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$122.51,10950.5%560 W · 549 L-3.0wins0.00per pick51cpaid-7.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdf66…e823backed Nuclear TigeRES43c220$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.617941.3%74 W · 105 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick42cpaid+1.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked illwill42c218.04$91 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.541,39848.4%676 W · 722 L+11.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2baf…8023backed Nuclear TigeRES46c210$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.644555.6%25 W · 20 L+2.7wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+20.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5de7…5417backed illwill52c201.03$105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96.511,14643.5%499 W · 647 L-17.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-2.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x00b7…5b93backed Nuclear TigeRES50c195.36$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.8719653.1%104 W · 92 L+5.4wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2409…215ebacked illwill53c192$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.9812746.5%59 W · 68 L-11.0wins-0.09per pick55cpaid-13.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed illwill68c191.13$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.264,04050.9%2,057 W · 1,983 L+71.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid-6.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5625…6c2abacked illwill52c186.77$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.6536151.8%187 W · 174 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+5.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8a3d…316cbacked illwill51c174.71$89 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$85.6154348.6%264 W · 279 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcb59…fb90backed Nuclear TigeRES55c167.36$92 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.055048%24 W · 26 L+2.1wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+10.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x24ca…5829backed Nuclear TigeRES50c164.03$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82.0233352.6%175 W · 158 L+0.6wins0.00per pick52cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d28…6d7abacked illwill52c161.08$84 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$77.321827.8%5 W · 13 L-3.1wins-0.17per pick45cpaid-38.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1769…94efbacked illwill50c150$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7591648.9%448 W · 468 L+4.4wins0.00per pick48cpaid-3.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x87ed…b497backed illwill51c150$76 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7418352.5%96 W · 87 L+0.6wins0.00per pick52cpaid-4.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x37d7…f131backed illwill55c141.59$78 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.4733451.5%172 W · 162 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick52cpaid+0.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcb3e…9120backed illwill51c135.12$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.2114641.1%60 W · 86 L-5.6wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-8.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x49ec…ac1cbacked illwill53c132.9$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.139538.9%37 W · 58 L-5.2wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-22.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x62a1…d53ebacked Nuclear TigeRES44c115.93$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.2317930.2%54 W · 125 L-10.8wins-0.06per pick36cpaid-21%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0ac5…f963backed illwill52c115.37$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.3851055.9%285 W · 225 L+19.4wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+5.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd208…cbcdbacked illwill52c112.06$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.793461.8%21 W · 13 L+2.3wins+0.07per pick55cpaid+25%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xef5c…6ababacked illwill53c110.72$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.431963.2%12 W · 7 L+1.2wins+0.06per pick57cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x73a2…3b68backed illwill52c110.64$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.0695649.7%475 W · 481 L-18.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x16fd…b4d3backed illwill29c103.01$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72.8629840.3%120 W · 178 L-9.3wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-24.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xced8…221ebacked Nuclear TigeRES47c100$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4770038.9%272 W · 428 L-29.5wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-18.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked illwill46c100$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$542,60352.6%1,370 W · 1,233 L+97.5wins+0.04per pick49cpaid-3.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xeaff…5f75backed Nuclear TigeRES57c99.96$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.865223.1%12 W · 40 L-9.3wins-0.18per pick41cpaid-52.3%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick
0x1eb3…6bfebacked illwill50c99$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.57540%30 W · 45 L-6.0wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-20.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa74a…4893backed illwill46c98.82$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.131,21640.1%488 W · 728 L-65.0wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-28.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6722…865fbacked Nuclear TigeRES49c98$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.4827754.9%152 W · 125 L+7.5wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+6.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x04b7…7491backed Nuclear TigeRES48c97$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.5611756.4%66 W · 51 L+7.7wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+12.8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8726…0f36backed Nuclear TigeRES48c95.99$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.0873854.5%402 W · 336 L+14.4wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2273…7e01backed illwill49c93.76$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.134555.6%25 W · 20 L+1.6wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+13.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4177…a2b4backed illwill31c93.66$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.91,24841.3%516 W · 732 L+5.1wins0.00per pick41cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x08a6…a40abacked illwill52c93.58$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.022548%12 W · 13 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-9.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x523e…3128backed illwill52c93.42$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.8615544.5%69 W · 86 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0c1c…dd59backed illwill52c93.38$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.821163.6%7 W · 4 L+2.4wins+0.22per pick41cpaid+25.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x3e6d…2671backed Nuclear TigeRES51c92.85$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.9276248.4%369 W · 393 L+13.2wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd12…9debbacked illwill53c92.76$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.841560%9 W · 6 L+1.5wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+25%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xdde2…743dbacked illwill53c92.37$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.791100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.47per pick53cpaid+90.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf13d…6b6ebacked illwill54c91.59$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.982454.2%13 W · 11 L-1.2wins-0.05per pick59cpaid-15.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2528…b77dbacked illwill57c87.71$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.438858.2%226 W · 162 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick60cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc3f6…bab8backed illwill57c85.95$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.252254.5%12 W · 10 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick56cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked illwill60c85.91$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34.052,32655.7%1,296 W · 1,030 L+44.8wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4c4c…dc70backed Nuclear TigeRES44c85.65$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.6911651.7%60 W · 56 L+4.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+15.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1110…4f1dbacked Nuclear TigeRES69c81.31$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.111181.8%9 W · 2 L+1.8wins+0.16per pick66cpaid+29.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x8670…b34bbacked illwill50c78.15$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.083148.4%15 W · 16 L+2.2wins+0.07per pick41cpaid+14.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2077…8161backed illwill58c77.31$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.4710757%61 W · 46 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-1.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xfcb6…ef3abacked illwill49c75.97$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38.741758.8%10 W · 7 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick57cpaid-0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xadb9…ef55backed illwill52c74.71$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.861471.4%10 W · 4 L+1.5wins+0.11per pick61cpaid+12.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x07b9…3efebacked illwill67c73.15$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.141346.2%6 W · 7 L-0.6wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-8.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x267b…5081backed Nuclear TigeRES18c67.4$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.27425%1 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.18per pick43cpaid-65.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xaee4…471fbacked Nuclear TigeRES48c66.38$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.8435752.9%189 W · 168 L+22.6wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+12.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x7b28…ff4fbacked Nuclear TigeRES33c63.95$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.211,31851.7%682 W · 636 L+28.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa427…f87fbacked Nuclear TigeRES48c63.37$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.423732.4%12 W · 25 L-4.2wins-0.11per pick44cpaid-10.9%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xf4e0…cf2dbacked Nuclear TigeRES51c63.09$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.184852.1%25 W · 23 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-4.7%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xe2df…2368backed illwill32c59.35$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.3611750.4%59 W · 58 L-5.1wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-9.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7344…98f6backed illwill33c58.17$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38.9718043.3%78 W · 102 L-3.1wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x09ad…1e6dbacked illwill52c57.09$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.4944.4%4 W · 5 L-0.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-13.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb1cc…1958backed illwill53c55.36$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.211060%6 W · 4 L+1.3wins+0.13per pick47cpaid+13%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.