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Athletics vs. Chicago White Sox

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Chicago White Soxof Athletics, Chicago White Sox
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
MLBevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$480,112
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$492,576

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $480,112 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a prediction-market account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 264 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in MLB is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in MLB
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x5e94…5ba1backed Chicago White Sox55c191,431$105,301 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86,129.2848648.8%237 W · 249 L-7.4wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x3dfb…abafbacked Chicago White Sox58c52,773$30,608 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22,164.61,43649.3%708 W · 728 L-6.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.6%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x9703…69c2backed Athletics43c43,321$18,655 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,654.683,54151%1,805 W · 1,736 L+53.5wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x224a…a3d5backed Athletics42c38,544$16,072 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,072.114,40147.5%2,090 W · 2,311 L-76.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x472b…5d5fbacked Athletics6c38,490$2,149 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,148.561154.5%6 W · 5 L+1.4wins+0.13per pick42cpaid+31.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xabb8…bba3backed Chicago White Sox59c20,847$12,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,547.4698849.9%493 W · 495 L-17.7wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf438…9559backed Athletics47c20,000$9,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,4004949%24 W · 25 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4f29…7a7ebacked Chicago White Sox53c19,330$10,251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,079.763,10748.1%1,495 W · 1,612 L-15.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Athletics43c18,086$7,777 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,7771,69250.2%849 W · 843 L-21.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5268…135dbacked Athletics43c16,974$7,376 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,376.111,60652.8%6,131 W · 5,475 L+210.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-0.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4bff…fc26backed Athletics42c15,417$6,475 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,475.3344646.9%209 W · 237 L-3.8wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Chicago White Sox59c15,000$8,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,15050652.6%266 W · 240 L+16.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Athletics45c11,726$5,291 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,291.054,52448.9%2,214 W · 2,310 L-42.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9c3c…e8c9backed Athletics44c11,364$4,976 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,975.6636343%156 W · 207 L-20.0wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-12.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Athletics46c11,257$5,124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,123.56,12855.4%3,394 W · 2,734 L+347.5wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+8.7%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xde49…fe85backed Chicago White Sox55c10,000$5,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,50049150.9%250 W · 241 L-11.4wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb7f5…c669backed Athletics42c9,000$3,780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,78047953.2%255 W · 224 L+18.0wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0eb5…d57abacked Athletics44c8,685$3,811 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,810.9121644.9%97 W · 119 L+0.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Athletics44c8,135$3,583 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,582.935,51750.6%2,791 W · 2,726 L+26.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1.2%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Athletics45c7,468$3,356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,356.241,59348.6%774 W · 819 L-1.7wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5811…0976backed Athletics45c6,074$2,722 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,722.161,67149.1%820 W · 851 L+1.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x44a1…bd21backed Athletics42c5,952$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,500.0128042.1%118 W · 162 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Athletics45c5,639$2,514 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,513.857,04650.5%3,560 W · 3,486 L+2.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5482…b6eebacked Athletics0c4,635$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.938762.9%25 W · 851 L+5.5wins+0.01per pick2cpaid+19.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0467…fb2ebacked Athletics45c4,530$2,039 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,038.56747.8%32 W · 35 L+2.3wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5505…aa44backed Athletics46c4,317$1,985 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,985.2952045.2%235 W · 285 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9f15…bdb3backed Athletics47c4,281$2,012 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,011.9680147.7%382 W · 419 L+3.6wins0.00per pick47cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa804…2a75backed Athletics47c4,037$1,897 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,897.429147.1%137 W · 154 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf7f0…912cbacked Athletics46c3,954$1,817 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,817.352,31951.1%1,184 W · 1,135 L+26.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x23d1…52c5backed Chicago White Sox59c3,390$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,389.833948.7%19 W · 20 L-4.8wins-0.12per pick61cpaid-19.3%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed Athletics45c3,020$1,359 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,359.128,45147.9%4,048 W · 4,403 L+81.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0844…f46abacked Athletics43c3,000$1,280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,28016948.5%82 W · 87 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Athletics43c2,454$1,066 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,066.391,53059.4%909 W · 621 L+82.7wins+0.05per pick54cpaid-1.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x9ec2…bd08backed Athletics41c2,427$995 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$995.221,14142.7%487 W · 654 L+11.2wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Athletics42c2,275$966 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$965.88,25146.3%3,820 W · 4,431 L+41.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-6.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd619…c461backed Athletics43c2,077$900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$90065252.5%342 W · 310 L+28.6wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+10.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xd255…4676backed Athletics42c2,000$840 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8407852.6%41 W · 37 L+4.1wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+9.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x09af…9728backed Chicago White Sox58c1,737$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$736.7190453.5%484 W · 420 L+24.3wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xeef6…cd4cbacked Athletics45c1,575$709 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$708.7558852.9%311 W · 277 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Athletics19c1,337$251 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$251.3212,32846.4%5,726 W · 6,602 L-66.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-9.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0eb7…1f17backed Chicago White Sox60c1,170$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$470.0435155.8%196 W · 155 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbe88…67a8backed Athletics43c1,164$497 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$497.1697050.7%492 W · 478 L+13.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x52d9…fb1abacked Athletics42c1,152$484 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$483.631,00324.7%248 W · 755 L-70.1wins-0.07per pick32cpaid-23.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xf7c4…5919backed Athletics5c1,036$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.681,1807.2%85 W · 1,095 L-13.6wins-0.01per pick8cpaid-37.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfc08…a137backed Athletics41c1,003$412 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$412.0632158.6%188 W · 133 L+27.1wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+17.4%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x64ef…befcbacked Athletics44c999.1$443 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$442.7530746.9%144 W · 163 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa0f2…1848backed Athletics18c974$172 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$171.7683742.8%358 W · 479 L-12.2wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-17%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xd69a…d57fbacked Chicago White Sox53c943.4$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$443.42365.2%15 W · 8 L+2.8wins+0.12per pick53cpaid+27.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x09ee…90a4backed Athletics43c928$397 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$396.971,56951.1%801 W · 768 L+15.6wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x46f8…68ccbacked Athletics43c916$397 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$396.8746045.7%210 W · 250 L-11.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-4.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x63ec…3b76backed Chicago White Sox55c909.09$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$409.0910750.5%54 W · 53 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-3.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x441d…544dbacked Chicago White Sox58c900$522 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3786459.4%38 W · 26 L+8.9wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+30.2%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xdc9e…5a9ebacked Athletics37c862.24$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32035254.5%192 W · 160 L+8.1wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1a2f…647abacked Athletics7c830$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.182636.6%302 W · 524 L-6.1wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-5.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe8c4…395dbacked Athletics45c800$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36071853.3%383 W · 335 L+12.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9b11…5375backed Athletics45c796$354 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$354.221,89449.3%934 W · 960 L+24.1wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1ba2…d212backed Athletics44c794.99$347 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$347.3392946.1%428 W · 501 L-11.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-9.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9cb4…8285backed Chicago White Sox53c764.17$408 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$356.541346.7%193 W · 220 L-10.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xcf73…0215backed Athletics44c750.01$327 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$326.6131252.2%163 W · 149 L+5.9wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x37e2…4b92backed Chicago White Sox52c730.77$380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$350.7713043.1%56 W · 74 L+4.2wins+0.03per pick40cpaid-3.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa3c2…df3dbacked Athletics47c690.01$323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$322.582,80049.3%1,381 W · 1,419 L+0.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5d9e…e0e3backed Chicago White Sox73c640.01$467 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$172.841,07558.3%627 W · 448 L-21.3wins-0.02per pick60cpaid-8.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3262…5427backed Athletics46c637.89$293 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$293.4310%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.46per pick46cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbf9c…3648backed Athletics45c633.08$285 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$284.891,74249.1%856 W · 886 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc249…8a61backed Athletics43c600$258 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25861652.8%325 W · 291 L+31.2wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+12.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xfc23…8283backed Athletics42c595.24$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25043153.6%231 W · 200 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+1.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x519d…37a1backed Athletics2c572.38$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.915862%12 W · 574 L-1.7wins0.00per pick2cpaid-45.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x986c…3180backed Athletics47c533.61$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$248.7152547.4%249 W · 276 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa1a9…e22ebacked Athletics47c523$246 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$245.8137348.3%180 W · 193 L+5.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcece…8d7abacked Athletics11c500$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5520%0 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.22per pick22cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb6e0…ff0fbacked Athletics44c500$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22032547.7%155 W · 170 L-0.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8bec…7800backed Athletics39c455$177 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$177.455961%36 W · 23 L+2.1wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+13.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc546…058ebacked Athletics49c440.83$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$215.565,17254.6%2,824 W · 2,348 L+227.9wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+7.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1ba7…67a1backed Chicago White Sox55c439.2$242 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.6437052.2%193 W · 177 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-1.7%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x81a9…df08backed Athletics44c431.36$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.369949.5%49 W · 50 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0a77…9d74backed Chicago White Sox57c421$240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.031,41548.9%692 W · 723 L-10.2wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf102…1348backed Athletics48c417$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200.161,14446.3%530 W · 614 L+36.9wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+7.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4483…c565backed Athletics48c416.67$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20026052.3%136 W · 124 L+7.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x19b7…9ee6backed Athletics47c408.33$192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.661,04552%543 W · 502 L+3.8wins0.00per pick52cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2002…a75ebacked Chicago White Sox62c386.22$241 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$145.1815751.6%81 W · 76 L+6.5wins+0.04per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x54d0…8e20backed Chicago White Sox53c377.36$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$177.3633056.4%186 W · 144 L+1.0wins0.00per pick56cpaid+1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xeb2e…7821backed Athletics46c359.98$166 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$165.9573849.3%364 W · 374 L+0.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe741…a9d1backed Chicago White Sox58c346.17$201 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$145.391163.6%7 W · 4 L+1.1wins+0.10per pick54cpaid+15%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd58d…c2d6backed Chicago White Sox58c344.83$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.8315149.7%75 W · 76 L-2.7wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x27ca…e628backed Athletics43c340$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$146.210546.7%49 W · 56 L+4.7wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+20.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf1b5…7e9abacked Chicago White Sox59c338.98$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$138.986946.4%32 W · 37 L-0.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Athletics21c320.61$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.6398045%441 W · 539 L-14.0wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-22.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa95a…6b78backed Athletics47c314.06$148 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$147.616552.3%34 W · 31 L+3.2wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+10.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5b8d…bb92backed Athletics45c300$135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13559552.6%313 W · 282 L+13.9wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+5.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7772…0e56backed Athletics42c300$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12620848.6%101 W · 107 L+5.4wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+6.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xce6d…28b5backed Athletics43c300$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1291,48350.2%745 W · 738 L+5.4wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8d0c…c90abacked Athletics43c299.99$128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$128.52,42349.9%1,208 W · 1,215 L+20.3wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xba62…3e29backed Chicago White Sox53c283.02$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$133.0222349.3%110 W · 113 L-6.1wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-2.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4dea…5e23backed Athletics48c279$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.9242550.1%213 W · 212 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbca0…9705backed Athletics42c275$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$114.758,65452.6%4,550 W · 4,104 L+506.7wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd991…faeabacked Athletics46c260.87$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12040449.3%199 W · 205 L-13.7wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-7.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x72f3…d396backed Athletics46c260$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.652246.7%244 W · 278 L-22.3wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-8.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe292…84b8backed Athletics47c260$122 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.21,42343.6%620 W · 803 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1967…30b5backed Athletics43c250$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.510747.7%51 W · 56 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick49cpaid+0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x89c9…9534backed Chicago White Sox59c235$139 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96.3592350.1%462 W · 461 L-1.9wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in MLB and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.