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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Team Spirit vs Tundra Esports - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Tundra Esportsof Team Spirit, Tundra Esports
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$97,359
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$112,420

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $97,359 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 111 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf9b5…09eebacked Tundra Esports60c25,253$15,098 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,154.955157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x380c…951cbacked Tundra Esports66c13,259$8,808 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,451.284973.5%36 W · 13 L+1.6wins+0.03per pick70cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Team Spirit41c11,214$4,580 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,580.322,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb555…0c4bbacked Team Spirit36c10,018$3,566 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,565.6510342.7%44 W · 59 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf6f9…bff5backed Team Spirit40c6,753$2,708 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,707.9820949.3%103 W · 106 L+8.4wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-4.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Team Spirit36c5,149$1,837 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,836.941,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed Tundra Esports59c5,101$3,008 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,093.3647660.7%289 W · 187 L-0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed Team Spirit41c4,999$2,069 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,068.91,03647.2%489 W · 547 L+15.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9adf…55e8backed Team Spirit39c4,328$1,673 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,673.2919147.6%91 W · 100 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Team Spirit31c4,321$1,350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,350.431,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Team Spirit42c4,000$1,683 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,682.51,15547.8%552 W · 603 L+29.5wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6304…e570backed Tundra Esports53c3,600$1,908 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,691.927645.3%125 W · 151 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-10.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4d84…21b1backed Team Spirit39c2,574$999 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$999.1718143.6%79 W · 102 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-14.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2733…ac38backed Tundra Esports46c2,292$1,054 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,237.55825%2 W · 6 L-1.1wins-0.14per pick39cpaid-54.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3fc5…197fbacked Tundra Esports74c2,183$1,611 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$572.77475%3 W · 1 L+0.7wins+0.18per pick57cpaid+56.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x3542…c3c8backed Team Spirit36c1,655$592 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$591.573455.9%19 W · 15 L+1.8wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+6.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed Team Spirit47c1,500$710 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71058744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Team Spirit37c1,143$427 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$427.2896357.3%552 W · 411 L+48.2wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+6.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed Tundra Esports64c1,000$638 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$362.2679559.4%472 W · 323 L+3.7wins0.00per pick59cpaid-2.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Tundra Esports62c990.42$618 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$372.051,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1aaa…0c04backed Team Spirit57c902.48$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$510.2620251%103 W · 99 L-3.4wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9fa8…591bbacked Team Spirit51c792.61$403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$402.581250%6 W · 6 L+0.7wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+5.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb9fb…95fbbacked Tundra Esports52c768.87$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$368.878854.5%48 W · 40 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf679…16acbacked Team Spirit41c699.99$286 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28622954.1%124 W · 105 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+7.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Team Spirit41c665.62$271 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$270.632,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6503…0c3dbacked Tundra Esports50c604.89$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$304.898461.9%52 W · 32 L+5.3wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+7.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x368d…d853backed Team Spirit62c600$372 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37261548.8%300 W · 315 L+8.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdb12…4210backed Team Spirit47c591.78$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$279.531952.6%10 W · 9 L+0.9wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x00a1…5062backed Tundra Esports72c551.74$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.7421346.5%99 W · 114 L-8.1wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2133…7903backed Team Spirit38c528$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.0434044.4%151 W · 189 L+0.6wins0.00per pick44cpaid-9.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked Team Spirit47c527.66$248 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24853444.4%237 W · 297 L-4.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8e3a…780cbacked Tundra Esports53c508.4$269 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$238.955839.7%23 W · 35 L+2.7wins+0.05per pick35cpaid+7.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked Team Spirit36c503.93$182 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$182.0491756.5%518 W · 399 L+79.2wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.3%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x7f52…c525backed Team Spirit50c500$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2509053.3%48 W · 42 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa257…ea6ebacked Team Spirit35c499.99$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1751361.5%8 W · 5 L+2.4wins+0.18per pick43cpaid+31.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x07fa…f5cdbacked Tundra Esports46c436.47$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$236.4745940.5%186 W · 273 L+14.4wins+0.03per pick37cpaid+9.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xad69…7397backed Team Spirit56c400$226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22651140.3%206 W · 305 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x033e…1bb9backed Tundra Esports61c400$243 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15756848.8%277 W · 291 L-1.1wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Team Spirit45c385.1$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$175.131,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2905…6255backed Tundra Esports53c361$191 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$169.673360.6%20 W · 13 L+2.9wins+0.09per pick52cpaid+18.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xac93…0cfcbacked Tundra Esports56c350$197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15358152.5%305 W · 276 L-10.5wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d96…d524backed Team Spirit63c312.9$197 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$197.1426957.6%155 W · 114 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1f4f…46c2backed Team Spirit39c300$117 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11736054.4%196 W · 164 L+12.1wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbe5a…13f5backed Team Spirit34c294.12$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10045046.7%210 W · 240 L-11.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked Team Spirit24c279.17$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6799844.4%443 W · 555 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x149b…0ca8backed Team Spirit37c270.27$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001926.3%5 W · 14 L-3.8wins-0.20per pick46cpaid-57.3%equal weight41-0.09 edge/pick
0xf3be…f543backed Team Spirit41c243.9$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10025457.9%147 W · 107 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+6.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1709…c148backed Team Spirit47c226.21$105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$105.2548352.4%253 W · 230 L-2.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3abf…b143backed Tundra Esports65c205.12$134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.1233645.5%153 W · 183 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfa03…0799backed Team Spirit37c202.32$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$74.861181.8%9 W · 2 L+2.6wins+0.23per pick59cpaid+35.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x8dc0…5f47backed Team Spirit36c200$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.53943.6%17 W · 22 L+3.3wins+0.09per pick35cpaid-5.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked Tundra Esports65c200$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.0677258.5%452 W · 320 L+74.8wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xce1f…7392backed Tundra Esports52c200$104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9667853.5%363 W · 315 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x63ec…3b5bbacked Team Spirit44c190.4$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$841643.8%7 W · 9 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x08cc…1a44backed Tundra Esports65c189.54$123 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.34250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-23.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x672d…dbd7backed Team Spirit45c186.27$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.8240047.5%190 W · 210 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-5.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x912e…0eaebacked Team Spirit32c162.56$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.387424.3%18 W · 56 L-8.3wins-0.11per pick36cpaid-33.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Team Spirit58c161.53$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$941,89447.7%903 W · 991 L+6.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid-5.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1532…1dadbacked Tundra Esports54c150$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68.522654.4%123 W · 103 L+0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa750…0d0fbacked Team Spirit41c150$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62.237654.8%206 W · 170 L+20.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+9.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x65e0…e51dbacked Tundra Esports75c133.22$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.2219443.3%84 W · 110 L-9.2wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-15.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe239…1761backed Team Spirit54c124.07$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$673240.6%13 W · 19 L-3.2wins-0.10per pick51cpaid-21.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x9718…dd82backed Team Spirit41c123.43$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$508636%31 W · 55 L-7.7wins-0.09per pick45cpaid-24.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1963…8122backed Team Spirit49c122.45$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$609548.4%46 W · 49 L-9.6wins-0.10per pick59cpaid-19.8%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xaacf…5f84backed Team Spirit47c120$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.459250.5%299 W · 293 L-20.7wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-10%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed Team Spirit59c117.08$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69.0843647.5%207 W · 229 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed Team Spirit26c116.42$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.131,03416.3%169 W · 865 L-158.1wins-0.15per pick32cpaid-51%equal weight33-0.15 edge/pick
0xf2ae…0864backed Tundra Esports54c110$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.0226661.7%164 W · 102 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick60cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb9db…3999backed Team Spirit18c108.76$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$204151.2%21 W · 20 L+1.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+14.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe6a4…4249backed Tundra Esports58c108$63 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.3619664.8%127 W · 69 L+0.3wins0.00per pick65cpaid-4.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9332…a3dbbacked Team Spirit45c105.72$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.876048.6%369 W · 391 L+26.2wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+0.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf32d…bbbbbacked Tundra Esports52c104.04$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.9461057.9%353 W · 257 L+2.8wins0.00per pick57cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcf24…1208backed Tundra Esports69c100$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$314540%18 W · 27 L-5.2wins-0.12per pick52cpaid-25.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xadaf…aefdbacked Team Spirit60c100$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6012938%49 W · 80 L-4.5wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-16.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3265…d5b8backed Tundra Esports52c100$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$485942.4%25 W · 34 L+2.9wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x40ba…7ea5backed Team Spirit58c100$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5853757.7%310 W · 227 L+11.8wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xefff…2d98backed Tundra Esports66c96.28$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.7416445.7%75 W · 89 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xab05…52e9backed Tundra Esports54c95.41$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.8917448.9%85 W · 89 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xddb8…6c31backed Team Spirit54c92.59$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501163.6%7 W · 4 L+1.8wins+0.17per pick47cpaid+40.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x0030…04e9backed Tundra Esports52c91.77$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.0534152.2%178 W · 163 L+7.4wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x58f1…7032backed Tundra Esports66c80$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.229550.2%148 W · 147 L+8.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbda6…6ae0backed Tundra Esports67c78.98$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.2936051.9%187 W · 173 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfebc…0194backed Tundra Esports66c71$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.951560%9 W · 6 L-1.0wins-0.07per pick67cpaid-14.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf142…03cbbacked Team Spirit48c62.5$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309137.4%34 W · 57 L-8.8wins-0.10per pick47cpaid-25.8%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x4946…e041backed Team Spirit42c60.26$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.3155161.7%340 W · 211 L+4.5wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5de7…5417backed Team Spirit59c60$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.447951.8%248 W · 231 L+17.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+6.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd9bd…ed23backed Tundra Esports65c58.37$38 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.431844.4%8 W · 10 L+0.8wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+18.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x540d…c8f9backed Team Spirit30c56.6$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.9838855.2%214 W · 174 L+29.8wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x07b0…4758backed Tundra Esports65c55.98$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.443956.4%22 W · 17 L-0.1wins0.00per pick57cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf883…b8b4backed Team Spirit56c53.57$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3018764.7%121 W · 66 L+17.3wins+0.09per pick55cpaid+15%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xaa57…a128backed Tundra Esports61c52.54$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.4446664.2%299 W · 167 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick62cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0f3a…7dcbbacked Tundra Esports59c51.15$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.1520952.6%110 W · 99 L-7.3wins-0.04per pick56cpaid-10.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3fb9…a8b3backed Tundra Esports64c46.88$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.8859456.7%337 W · 257 L+13.2wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6e4d…1cb0backed Tundra Esports65c46.15$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.1557654.5%314 W · 262 L+29.2wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc393…590abacked Tundra Esports68c44.19$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.1423849.6%118 W · 120 L-6.9wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x28ba…9fecbacked Tundra Esports54c42.82$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.8210546.7%49 W · 56 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-2.9%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xb4f9…32b1backed Team Spirit50c42.36$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.1831245.8%143 W · 169 L+10.2wins+0.03per pick43cpaid-5.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4605…5299backed Team Spirit42c42.12$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.698833%29 W · 59 L-4.8wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-25.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc7c7…24c2backed Tundra Esports55c40$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1813061.5%80 W · 50 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick61cpaid-3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x209f…0eb4backed Tundra Esports65c34.06$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12.063348.5%16 W · 17 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.