MLB · resolved market
Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland Guardians: O/U 7.5
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What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Underof Over, Under
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- MLBevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $51,063
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $50,559
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $51,063 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 79 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in MLB is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in MLB | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x6498…8910backed Over | 57c | 11,721$6,680 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$6,680.21 | 517 | 56.5%292 W · 225 L | +5.2wins | +0.01per pick | 55cpaid | +3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5268…135dbacked Over | 44c | 7,482$3,292 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$3,292.3 | 11,519 | 52.9%6,092 W · 5,427 L | +213.9wins | +0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -0.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2dc1…b33cbacked Under | 56c | 7,302$4,089 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$3,212.88 | 262 | 57.3%150 W · 112 L | +4.9wins | +0.02per pick | 55cpaid | +3.4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7760…21f0backed Under | 46c | 4,369$1,998 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$2,371.23 | 2,375 | 47.3%1,123 W · 1,252 L | -13.4wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x84cf…2f63backed Over | 58c | 3,476$2,006 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$2,006.15 | 4,553 | 49.2%2,238 W · 2,315 L | -9.6wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x462d…ce9bbacked Over | 58c | 3,388$1,949 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,949.04 | 84 | 47.6%40 W · 44 L | -4.7wins | -0.06per pick | 53cpaid | -12.3%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x6814…a9e7backed Over | 31c | 3,144$980 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$979.94 | 2,389 | 43.4%1,037 W · 1,352 L | -25.4wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -11.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9c76…c926backed Under | 42c | 3,000$1,260 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,740 | 1,301 | 50.2%653 W · 648 L | +19.0wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | +3.7%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9870…b9d3backed Under | 45c | 2,329$1,048 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,281.33 | 190 | 53.7%102 W · 88 L | +4.1wins | +0.02per pick | 52cpaid | +9.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xadfb…c2efbacked Under | 44c | 2,316$1,011 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,304.73 | 2,407 | 48.5%1,167 W · 1,240 L | -62.3wins | -0.03per pick | 51cpaid | -4.6%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe401…7b88backed Under | 54c | 2,031$1,104 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$927.91 | 9,819 | 46.4%4,557 W · 5,262 L | +39.8wins | 0.00per pick | 46cpaid | -8.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x9495…9a27backed Under | 42c | 2,006$848 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,157.42 | 2,293 | 48.1%1,103 W · 1,190 L | -24.0wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5e30…acbfbacked Under | 42c | 1,959$823 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,136.08 | 1,538 | 48.6%747 W · 791 L | -5.6wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | +1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x78b0…9f1abacked Over | 57c | 1,752$999 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$998.56 | 390 | 47.4%185 W · 205 L | -11.5wins | -0.03per pick | 50cpaid | -5.2%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xae51…0d08backed Over | 24c | 1,746$413 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$413.05 | 364 | 40.1%146 W · 218 L | +9.4wins | +0.03per pick | 38cpaid | +6.9%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xfe78…0319backed Under | 66c | 1,412$931 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$481 | 10,979 | 51.6%5,660 W · 5,319 L | +139.8wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -0.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3449…abdfbacked Over | 54c | 1,103$595 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$595.39 | 86 | 24.4%21 W · 65 L | -7.7wins | -0.09per pick | 33cpaid | -23.5%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x6d3c…d294backed Under | 43c | 1,033$445 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$588.25 | 5,471 | 50.5%2,763 W · 2,708 L | +21.8wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | +1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x204f…5e14backed Under | 63c | 888.12$560 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$328.41 | 12,328 | 46.4%5,726 W · 6,602 L | -66.0wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -9.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x76e4…febcbacked Over | 54c | 781.68$422 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$422.11 | 90 | 45.6%41 W · 49 L | -1.0wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -3.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd9ea…b781backed Under | 43c | 643.24$276 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$367.51 | 575 | 51.7%297 W · 278 L | +5.3wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | +1.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xc1b5…c8f8backed Under | 44c | 549.09$242 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$307.49 | 1,708 | 49.9%852 W · 856 L | -17.8wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -4.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4c10…b6a4backed Under | 58c | 531.1$308 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$223.06 | 114 | 46.5%53 W · 61 L | -6.9wins | -0.06per pick | 53cpaid | -13.9%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xc249…8a61backed Under | 42c | 500$210 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$290 | 616 | 52.8%325 W · 291 L | +31.2wins | +0.05per pick | 48cpaid | +12.8%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x5628…abbcbacked Under | 43c | 499.99$217 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$282.64 | 1,435 | 50%717 W · 718 L | -15.8wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -1.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf819…d410backed Under | 49c | 495.52$243 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$252.72 | 38 | 57.9%22 W · 16 L | +3.1wins | +0.08per pick | 50cpaid | +14.6%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xa697…59d5backed Under | 42c | 400$168 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$232 | 6,999 | 50.6%3,538 W · 3,461 L | +2.7wins | 0.00per pick | 51cpaid | +0.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xb4d2…ce99backed Under | 73c | 375.59$274 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$101.41 | 755 | 44.2%334 W · 421 L | -9.0wins | -0.01per pick | 45cpaid | -8.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x068c…582ebacked Over | 57c | 341.82$195 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$194.84 | 384 | 55.2%212 W · 172 L | +9.9wins | +0.03per pick | 53cpaid | +5.5%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc291…5d74backed Under | 43c | 314$135 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$178.98 | 2,329 | 49.8%1,160 W · 1,169 L | +41.4wins | +0.02per pick | 48cpaid | +4.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x8d88…1e28backed Over | 39c | 309.71$120 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$119.91 | 123 | 39%48 W · 75 L | +0.4wins | 0.00per pick | 39cpaid | -6.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8c93…8967backed Over | 54c | 258.17$138 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$138.25 | 58 | 39.7%23 W · 35 L | -4.1wins | -0.07per pick | 47cpaid | -15.8%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xd17a…0373backed Over | 53c | 218.66$116 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$115.89 | 785 | 50.2%394 W · 391 L | +2.8wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | +1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x424e…263bbacked Over | 54c | 215.57$116 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$116.05 | 1,769 | 51.6%912 W · 857 L | +16.9wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | +2.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xc546…058ebacked Over | 25c | 201.82$50 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$50.44 | 5,149 | 54.7%2,815 W · 2,334 L | +231.2wins | +0.04per pick | 50cpaid | +7.8%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x43d7…1c75backed Under | 44c | 200$88 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$112 | 217 | 48.4%105 W · 112 L | -3.2wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | +0.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe8c4…0d90backed Under | 80c | 200$160 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40 | 54 | 29.6%16 W · 38 L | -5.9wins | -0.11per pick | 40cpaid | -23.8%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x5821…7c51backed Over | 21c | 197.48$42 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$41.56 | 2,995 | 50.8%1,521 W · 1,474 L | -36.0wins | -0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -4.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbfd8…eecabacked Over | 52c | 196.57$102 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$101.97 | 222 | 48.6%108 W · 114 L | -4.0wins | -0.02per pick | 50cpaid | -3.8%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa807…cc2ebacked Over | 33c | 178.23$59 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$58.82 | 14 | 50%7 W · 7 L | +0.8wins | +0.05per pick | 45cpaid | +9.5%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xd3e7…bf64backed Under | 42c | 150$63 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$87 | 710 | 44.5%316 W · 394 L | -23.8wins | -0.03per pick | 48cpaid | -7%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xdb83…1e50backed Under | 42c | 130.55$55 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$75.72 | 4,515 | 48.8%2,205 W · 2,310 L | -46.9wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -4.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xc81a…c368backed Under | 43c | 126$54 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$71.82 | 404 | 46.5%188 W · 216 L | +4.5wins | +0.01per pick | 45cpaid | +3.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1a59…a57ebacked Under | 76c | 122.17$93 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$29.18 | 677 | 42.2%286 W · 391 L | -36.7wins | -0.05per pick | 48cpaid | -18%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x32ed…f960backed Over | 16c | 120.04$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$19.8 | 6,123 | 55.4%3,390 W · 2,733 L | +346.0wins | +0.06per pick | 50cpaid | +8.6%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x2798…a9c7backed Under | 48c | 119.68$58 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$61.64 | 65 | 47.7%31 W · 34 L | +3.6wins | +0.06per pick | 42cpaid | +11.9%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd81f…6b75backed Over | 55c | 119.54$66 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$65.75 | 1,010 | 48.1%486 W · 524 L | -13.2wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -2.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x904e…0becbacked Under | 79c | 116.39$92 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$23.95 | 515 | 55%283 W · 232 L | +6.5wins | +0.01per pick | 54cpaid | -0.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xdbdd…a5debacked Over | 21c | 100.02$21 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20.96 | 1,874 | 52%975 W · 899 L | +51.6wins | +0.03per pick | 49cpaid | +9.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf9ef…20ebbacked Under | 42c | 100$42 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$58 | 373 | 57.4%214 W · 159 L | +3.1wins | +0.01per pick | 57cpaid | +5.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xaab6…607ebacked Under | 48c | 100$48 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$52.5 | 272 | 48.5%132 W · 140 L | -1.3wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -0.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xb0f4…6fa9backed Under | 73c | 66.65$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.01 | 1,777 | 58.4%1,037 W · 740 L | +91.8wins | +0.05per pick | 53cpaid | +3.5%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x1787…c311backed Under | 48c | 66.61$32 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$34.63 | 361 | 57.9%209 W · 152 L | -2.8wins | -0.01per pick | 59cpaid | -2.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa578…6702backed Under | 44c | 61.84$27 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$34.63 | 1,053 | 47.3%498 W · 555 L | -14.7wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -3.4%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4619…2108backed Under | 43c | 60$26 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$34.2 | 27 | 51.9%14 W · 13 L | +0.7wins | +0.03per pick | 49cpaid | +0.4%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd454…b47fbacked Under | 44c | 59.92$26 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$33.55 | 90 | 44.4%40 W · 50 L | -6.0wins | -0.07per pick | 51cpaid | -11.6%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xc42c…42a1backed Over | 55c | 59.35$33 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$32.64 | 244 | 50%122 W · 122 L | -2.5wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -0.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xca2d…39edbacked Under | 45c | 56.6$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.13 | 232 | 48.7%113 W · 119 L | +4.9wins | +0.02per pick | 47cpaid | +4.3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa36b…aec4backed Under | 43c | 54.88$24 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.28 | 5 | 80%4 W · 1 L | +1.2wins | +0.25per pick | 55cpaid | +48.9%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd5f5…bb11backed Under | 47c | 50$24 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$26.5 | 559 | 53.1%297 W · 262 L | +10.5wins | +0.02per pick | 51cpaid | +4.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x1df6…cba0backed Over | 24c | 49.89$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.83 | 1,445 | 50.3%727 W · 718 L | -27.6wins | -0.02per pick | 52cpaid | -15.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x96c1…2c59backed Under | 48c | 48.44$23 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$25.19 | 1,498 | 45.3%678 W · 820 L | -8.7wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -0.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe624…2928backed Over | 55c | 46$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25.3 | 496 | 49.8%247 W · 249 L | +11.5wins | +0.02per pick | 47cpaid | +6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa9f5…937fbacked Under | 69c | 35.96$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.17 | 2,546 | 45.9%1,168 W · 1,378 L | -74.1wins | -0.03per pick | 49cpaid | -15%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x5754…cefbbacked Under | 56c | 34.77$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.3 | 96 | 46.9%45 W · 51 L | -2.5wins | -0.03per pick | 49cpaid | -14%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf898…e720backed Under | 79c | 33.53$26 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.14 | 6,305 | 48.2%3,042 W · 3,263 L | +181.6wins | +0.03per pick | 45cpaid | +0.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe9cd…1e2bbacked Under | 44c | 33.15$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.56 | 1,057 | 50.2%531 W · 526 L | +23.4wins | +0.02per pick | 48cpaid | +5.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x70fc…ab12backed Over | 41c | 30.37$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.45 | 1,374 | 54.2%745 W · 629 L | +16.1wins | +0.01per pick | 53cpaid | +1.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x35d1…1f70backed Under | 69c | 28.45$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.82 | 225 | 54.7%123 W · 102 L | +6.8wins | +0.03per pick | 52cpaid | +8.7%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf8f7…9817backed Under | 43c | 27.05$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.47 | 7 | 42.9%3 W · 4 L | -0.5wins | -0.07per pick | 50cpaid | -14.4%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x09ee…90a4backed Under | 44c | 27$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.12 | 1,569 | 51.1%801 W · 768 L | +15.6wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | +1.8%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0bbd…98f2backed Under | 45c | 25.14$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.83 | 187 | 51.3%96 W · 91 L | +9.9wins | +0.05per pick | 46cpaid | +11.3%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xc0c2…b14dbacked Under | 79c | 21.5$17 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4.48 | 1,149 | 48.9%562 W · 587 L | -6.5wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -6.2%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6efb…01afbacked Over | 57c | 20.51$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.69 | 45 | 53.3%24 W · 21 L | -1.8wins | -0.04per pick | 57cpaid | -9.2%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x28a3…8620backed Over | 57c | 20.51$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.69 | 321 | 53.9%173 W · 148 L | -10.6wins | -0.03per pick | 57cpaid | -5.3%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x02ec…5412backed Over | 50c | 20$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10 | 133 | 48.1%64 W · 69 L | -6.0wins | -0.04per pick | 53cpaid | -12.8%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x07c0…5dd2backed Under | 71c | 20$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5.8 | 184 | 58.2%107 W · 77 L | +4.7wins | +0.03per pick | 56cpaid | +5.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9555…889abacked Over | 54c | 19.73$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.56 | 1,001 | 57.3%574 W · 427 L | +2.3wins | 0.00per pick | 57cpaid | +1.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xcfff…3d0ebacked Under | 62c | 19.54$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.43 | 265 | 53.2%141 W · 124 L | +3.3wins | +0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -4.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in MLB and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 8 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland Guardians: O/U 7.5this page
- Spread: Cleveland Guardians (-1.5)Tampa Bay Rays won
- Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland GuardiansTampa Bay Rays won
- Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland Guardians: O/U 4.5Over won
- Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland Guardians: O/U 5.5Under won
- Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland Guardians: O/U 6.5Under won
- Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland Guardians: O/U 8.5Under won
- Will there be a run scored in the first inning?: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cleveland GuardiansNo won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.