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NHL · resolved market

Islanders vs. Canadiens

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Canadiensof Islanders, Canadiens
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$678,436

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $678,436 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 455 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x03e8…1697backed Islanders46c116,082$53,126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53,125.7667051%342 W · 328 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc257…358ebacked Islanders48c84,000$40,320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40,319.9948545.4%220 W · 265 L-7.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc807…c12bbacked Islanders47c68,800$32,336 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32,336.16352.4%33 W · 30 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-3.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaa07…2125backed Canadiens53c65,000$34,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30,4001,07049.9%534 W · 536 L+22.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd92…6b2abacked Canadiens53c62,549$33,126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29,423.5714650.7%74 W · 72 L+8.5wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+13.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x37c1…c53abacked Islanders47c42,239$19,852 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19,852.2451550.7%261 W · 254 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe790…eadcbacked Canadiens51c30,645$15,757 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,887.1727448.9%134 W · 140 L-6.4wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-13.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Canadiens53c25,535$13,420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,114.991,55551.4%800 W · 755 L+12.2wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Islanders65c21,133$13,679 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,679.221,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xead0…f3babacked Canadiens53c20,000$10,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,299.9532946.8%154 W · 175 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Canadiens52c19,682$10,235 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,447.4347951.4%246 W · 233 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Canadiens54c18,792$10,174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,617.591,19050.7%603 W · 587 L+13.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x913b…0852backed Canadiens53c16,348$8,621 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,726.3630348.8%148 W · 155 L-12.7wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-16.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xaca2…b9a1backed Canadiens35c16,140$5,649 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,491.2612838.3%49 W · 79 L-4.3wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-8.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf5e1…5ad0backed Canadiens53c15,000$7,970 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,03033151.7%171 W · 160 L+9.0wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x759c…5f4bbacked Canadiens53c14,955$7,926 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,028.761050%5 W · 5 L-1.0wins-0.10per pick60cpaid-14.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0539…46c9backed Canadiens53c10,699$5,670 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,028.53333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.14per pick48cpaid-37.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x91fd…1cdebacked Canadiens53c10,000$5,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,75013948.2%67 W · 72 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb6ae…4df8backed Islanders47c9,500$4,465 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,465.0336748%176 W · 191 L-12.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x7b47…d615backed Canadiens52c8,000$4,190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,809.9819353.9%104 W · 89 L+7.1wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3ae5…ead2backed Canadiens55c7,255$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,255.031154.5%6 W · 5 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+14.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Canadiens55c6,594$3,618 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,975.731,43450.8%728 W · 706 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Canadiens47c6,268$2,947 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,320.742,66451.6%1,375 W · 1,289 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed Canadiens54c6,000$3,260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,74061748.5%299 W · 318 L+0.4wins0.00per pick48cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6ce…7ec8backed Canadiens53c5,750$3,035 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,714.9962346.9%292 W · 331 L-3.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-2.2%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Islanders45c4,679$2,107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,106.622,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x2586…c893backed Canadiens55c4,560$2,504 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,055.3183652.8%441 W · 395 L+28.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x07aa…deb1backed Canadiens53c4,545$2,409 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,136.158845.5%40 W · 48 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Canadiens33c4,444$1,489 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,955.275251.7%389 W · 363 L-2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x25cc…9297backed Canadiens53c4,106$2,176 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,929.725448.1%26 W · 28 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe0db…f44ebacked Islanders47c4,000$1,880 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,88039752.1%207 W · 190 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Islanders47c3,968$1,852 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,851.5861950.1%310 W · 309 L-7.6wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0a77…9d74backed Canadiens52c3,846$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,846.0852050%260 W · 260 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd4da…3175backed Canadiens55c3,659$2,012 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,646.5528251.8%146 W · 136 L+8.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f2f…be86backed Canadiens55c3,488$1,918 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,569.62564%16 W · 9 L+2.2wins+0.09per pick55cpaid+18.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe4fc…8af7backed Canadiens53c3,451$1,812 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,639.1860249.5%298 W · 304 L-5.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x56c2…17bfbacked Canadiens53c3,333$1,766 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,566.5125447.2%120 W · 134 L-1.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xea79…a9ccbacked Canadiens72c3,078$2,216 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$861.825756.1%32 W · 25 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4090…3e81backed Islanders45c3,000$1,350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,350633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.0wins-0.17per pick50cpaid-39.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2f5b…e747backed Canadiens53c3,000$1,575 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,424.9743548.5%211 W · 224 L-7.4wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Islanders47c2,895$1,360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,360.4489547%421 W · 474 L-18.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1418…6fefbacked Canadiens53c2,800$1,470 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,329.9927850.4%140 W · 138 L+1.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbad2…5296backed Canadiens54c2,777$1,494 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,282.9789249.9%445 W · 447 L+10.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Canadiens52c2,728$1,417 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,310.942,31446.5%1,075 W · 1,239 L-7.5wins0.00per pick47cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1df2…89a0backed Islanders48c2,653$1,270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,269.7833234.3%114 W · 218 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-24.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Canadiens56c2,579$1,444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,134.5785250.2%428 W · 424 L-26.2wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-6.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8717…32c2backed Canadiens53c2,500$1,325 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1751850%9 W · 9 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4ec9…9901backed Islanders45c2,500$1,125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,12510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.45per pick45cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7523…9dffbacked Canadiens55c2,500$1,375 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1252100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.48per pick52cpaid+92.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x17f1…af18backed Islanders9c2,095$192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$192.344912.2%6 W · 43 L+2.4wins+0.05per pick7cpaid+49.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4a86…d3e0backed Islanders46c2,085$962 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$962.4691653.9%494 W · 422 L+39.6wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0eb3…f766backed Islanders46c2,051$939 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$938.5754047.6%257 W · 283 L-15.9wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-5.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x12d9…01bbbacked Islanders48c2,000$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96018547%87 W · 98 L+5.8wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+6.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x528f…2101backed Canadiens44c1,996$872 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,12417353.8%93 W · 80 L+6.3wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+2.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x96ca…5a71backed Canadiens53c1,887$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$886.7955446.4%257 W · 297 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Islanders47c1,857$869 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$869.151,09250.4%550 W · 542 L+12.7wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xefce…4e4abacked Canadiens54c1,852$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$851.8521849.5%108 W · 110 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Canadiens52c1,800$936 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8641,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3613…79e1backed Canadiens58c1,716$988 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$728.6370249%344 W · 358 L+14.2wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x16ad…b33bbacked Islanders54c1,582$861 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$861.082263.6%14 W · 8 L+2.9wins+0.13per pick51cpaid+9.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5adf…a5e7backed Canadiens55c1,500$825 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67563249.5%313 W · 319 L+2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xaca0…9b86backed Canadiens36c1,391$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$890.582839.3%11 W · 17 L+1.7wins+0.06per pick33cpaid+28%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x299f…2140backed Canadiens52c1,316$684 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$631.7738849.5%192 W · 196 L+0.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d2e…9072backed Canadiens53c1,312$695 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$616.642161.9%13 W · 8 L+3.0wins+0.14per pick48cpaid+38.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xfc08…a137backed Islanders69c1,224$840 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$840.2930259.6%180 W · 122 L+31.0wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+16.7%equal weight61+0.09 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Canadiens55c1,196$659 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$537.881,67954.4%914 W · 765 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x77f8…dc5dbacked Canadiens53c1,170$620 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$549.814163.4%26 W · 15 L+5.0wins+0.12per pick51cpaid+30.7%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xd589…27c2backed Canadiens55c1,111$611 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$499.9542847.2%202 W · 226 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd714…9a62backed Islanders46c1,087$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5006845.6%31 W · 37 L+2.4wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+11.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Islanders67c1,059$706 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$705.781,84657.2%1,055 W · 791 L+85.0wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+7.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc03a…d7c4backed Islanders66c1,010$670 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$669.987749.4%38 W · 39 L+0.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-10.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Canadiens55c1,000$550 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45062249.4%307 W · 315 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3c7e…a65fbacked Islanders19c1,000$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18760337.5%226 W · 377 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc480…937abacked Islanders21c952.38$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2002128.6%6 W · 15 L-1.4wins-0.07per pick35cpaid-20.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc070…203abacked Canadiens53c943.4$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$443.415252%79 W · 73 L+4.4wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+3.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd641…cd4bbacked Canadiens53c943.4$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$443.41100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.47per pick53cpaid+88.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xce4d…a7fabacked Canadiens45c931.98$415 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$516.9325555.3%141 W · 114 L+10.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+3.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xebba…383cbacked Canadiens54c925.91$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$425.924753.2%25 W · 22 L+3.5wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+15.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x691a…d113backed Islanders47c922$433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$433.3426551.3%136 W · 129 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8927…f5c6backed Islanders49c900$441 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44112436.3%45 W · 79 L-6.7wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-16.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5d61…6f1abacked Islanders69c864.98$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$600425%1 W · 3 L-1.6wins-0.40per pick65cpaid-66.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xb47e…c602backed Islanders48c850$408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40838445.8%176 W · 208 L-10.1wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-7.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x986c…3180backed Canadiens53c837.95$445 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$392.8145955.1%253 W · 206 L+1.0wins0.00per pick55cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Canadiens45c807.59$364 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$443.61,38447.1%652 W · 732 L+25.6wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Islanders67c806.99$541 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$540.551,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb4c6…75adbacked Canadiens46c800$365 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43540152.4%210 W · 191 L+21.2wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+8.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbf90…8e17backed Canadiens53c795$419 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$375.9233941.3%140 W · 199 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick41cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x44d8…4df8backed Canadiens53c737$391 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$346.391442.9%6 W · 8 L-1.0wins-0.07per pick50cpaid-20.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd0e7…b14fbacked Canadiens55c730$402 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$328.536648.6%178 W · 188 L-14.5wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-7.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x23b5…6333backed Islanders48c689.75$331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$331.083751.4%19 W · 18 L+1.0wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+12.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8010…04e4backed Canadiens54c689$375 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$314.031560%9 W · 6 L-0.5wins-0.03per pick63cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1294…6bb7backed Islanders48c680$326 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$326.41060%6 W · 4 L+0.6wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+13.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x24c7…cfe3backed Canadiens52c670$348 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$321.6966.7%6 W · 3 L+1.8wins+0.20per pick47cpaid+43.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6650…7dcebacked Canadiens53c658$349 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$309.262142.9%9 W · 12 L-1.1wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-1.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3b54…db07backed Canadiens43c647.88$281 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$366.536550.8%33 W · 32 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x628f…0bedbacked Islanders48c645.25$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309.724847.9%23 W · 25 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x97a5…cb58backed Canadiens52c640$333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$307.2955.6%5 W · 4 L+0.4wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+10.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9b21…7accbacked Islanders48c630$302 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302.41050%5 W · 5 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-5.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Islanders40c625.92$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$248.7789636.9%331 W · 565 L-30.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-26.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf5a7…63e7backed Islanders48c625$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30031848.1%153 W · 165 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.