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LoL: NRG Esports vs CCG Esports (BO3) - North American Challengers League Group Stage

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
NRG Esportsof NRG Esports, CCG Esports
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$48,809
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$55,167

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $48,809 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 119 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x7e5e…7315backed NRG Esports73c5,000$3,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,349.9812941.1%53 W · 76 L-5.2wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-7.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xdc41…dd7ebacked NRG Esports71c2,756$1,960 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$795.6857334.4%197 W · 376 L-16.8wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-4.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdfa8…cae6backed NRG Esports71c2,500$1,768 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$732.3182953.4%443 W · 386 L-3.7wins0.00per pick54cpaid-4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4b84…48e3backed CCG Esports34c2,313$782 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$782.12828.6%8 W · 20 L-3.1wins-0.11per pick40cpaid-34.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed CCG Esports29c2,250$653 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$652.51,47528.9%427 W · 1,048 L+24.7wins+0.02per pick27cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8c3a…eb16backed CCG Esports17c1,388$233 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$233.17333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.19per pick14cpaid+203%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5984…76ebbacked CCG Esports31c1,210$375 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37525832.9%85 W · 173 L+5.2wins+0.02per pick31cpaid+9.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed CCG Esports12c1,110$131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$131.112,25533.1%746 W · 1,509 L-76.1wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-21.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed CCG Esports27c1,094$295 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$295.41,07423.6%253 W · 821 L-77.7wins-0.07per pick31cpaid-49.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xf163…ca34backed CCG Esports27c999.99$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2701,50148.4%727 W · 774 L+47.7wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+0.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xae6d…795fbacked NRG Esports71c983.57$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$283.57560%3 W · 2 L+0.2wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+35.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x57cc…0fa7backed CCG Esports29c930$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$269.73842.1%16 W · 22 L-0.6wins-0.02per pick44cpaid+1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdccf…faeabacked CCG Esports27c878.74$237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$237.265052%26 W · 24 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x07fa…f5cdbacked CCG Esports27c799.99$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21617439.1%68 W · 106 L+6.5wins+0.04per pick35cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe9cb…f7dbbacked CCG Esports26c799.95$208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$207.9935045.1%158 W · 192 L+0.7wins0.00per pick45cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7a80…2f8bbacked NRG Esports70c774.5$542 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$232.35666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.09per pick57cpaid+102.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xab93…8479backed CCG Esports28c719.77$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2004240.5%17 W · 25 L-2.0wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-11.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked CCG Esports27c691.96$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.8366344.2%293 W · 370 L-21.2wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-12.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x54b0…df70backed NRG Esports73c684$499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$184.684946.9%23 W · 26 L-1.8wins-0.04per pick51cpaid+3.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked CCG Esports10c679.05$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69.461,95442.4%829 W · 1,125 L-43.8wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-22%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed CCG Esports18c651.48$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.042,57439.7%1,021 W · 1,553 L-81.8wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-19.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfca7…5e0abacked NRG Esports69c643.43$444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$199.462321.7%5 W · 18 L-3.6wins-0.16per pick37cpaid-45.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xce3f…3543backed NRG Esports74c632.12$468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$164.353423.5%8 W · 26 L-4.4wins-0.13per pick36cpaid-45.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x35e7…8331backed CCG Esports29c600$177 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17779745.8%365 W · 432 L-0.5wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed NRG Esports78c505.57$393 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$112.261,46038.4%560 W · 900 L-44.1wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-22%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x257e…ca61backed CCG Esports10c500$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5020450.5%103 W · 101 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-8.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x57b2…9da2backed CCG Esports27c499.96$135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$134.9935943.2%155 W · 204 L+12.7wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+5.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked NRG Esports77c461.58$356 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.231,67157.9%968 W · 703 L+70.6wins+0.04per pick54cpaid-0.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked CCG Esports25c430$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109.381,36647.4%648 W · 718 L-33.0wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-17%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked CCG Esports10c411.12$41 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$412,05830.6%629 W · 1,429 L-175.0wins-0.09per pick39cpaid-43.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked CCG Esports12c407.4$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.9920826.9%56 W · 152 L-13.2wins-0.06per pick33cpaid-48.7%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xb71e…641abacked CCG Esports13c404.13$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.544548.9%22 W · 23 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-16.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2da3…f258backed CCG Esports10c390.83$41 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41.021,02354.5%558 W · 465 L+49.3wins+0.05per pick50cpaid-0.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3d40…5739backed CCG Esports27c370.37$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1009848%47 W · 51 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-5.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0daf…17a9backed CCG Esports27c370.3$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.986251.6%32 W · 30 L+3.3wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x224f…514abacked NRG Esports69c367.5$255 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$112.798036.3%29 W · 51 L-13.6wins-0.17per pick53cpaid-37.4%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0x5006…48cabacked NRG Esports72c350.26$252 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.0710539%41 W · 64 L-8.4wins-0.08per pick47cpaid-13.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x4a1e…fd05backed CCG Esports28c343.9$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$963250%16 W · 16 L+4.1wins+0.13per pick37cpaid+35.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed CCG Esports29c336.27$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.761,87739.9%749 W · 1,128 L-66.0wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-21%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb877…4601backed CCG Esports11c316$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.761,26439.8%503 W · 761 L-70.7wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-24.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xc3e5…2498backed CCG Esports8c312.5$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$251145.5%5 W · 6 L+1.2wins+0.11per pick35cpaid-6.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf20b…e27dbacked NRG Esports73c300$219 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8135749.6%177 W · 180 L+12.5wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+13.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xfb0c…8c72backed NRG Esports72c299.79$215 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.4434448.3%166 W · 178 L+9.1wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+4.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xddb6…b9b3backed CCG Esports18c297.96$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.771,10746.3%513 W · 594 L-10.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-13.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9ab3…3044backed CCG Esports32c291.16$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93.1766843.3%289 W · 379 L-0.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed CCG Esports17c284.48$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.362,91538.5%1,122 W · 1,793 L-120.3wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-27.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked CCG Esports16c267.15$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.083,03244.4%1,347 W · 1,685 L-100.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa3c2…df3dbacked CCG Esports29c254.18$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.3537343.4%162 W · 211 L-15.3wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-9.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2b17…d36dbacked NRG Esports74c251.35$186 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.3510834.3%37 W · 71 L-6.3wins-0.06per pick40cpaid-12.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked CCG Esports8c236.87$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.9536335.8%130 W · 233 L-11.8wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-12.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked CCG Esports31c234.99$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.8519930.7%61 W · 138 L-3.8wins-0.02per pick33cpaid-5.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xaf48…36c2backed NRG Esports72c233.98$168 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.0312226.2%32 W · 90 L-11.8wins-0.10per pick36cpaid-28.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xa371…eaa5backed CCG Esports27c229.63$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$629047.8%43 W · 47 L+3.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xab96…989fbacked NRG Esports74c217.5$161 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.5524434.4%84 W · 160 L-9.1wins-0.04per pick38cpaid-16.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x461c…f74bbacked CCG Esports26c216$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57.225540.4%103 W · 152 L-0.3wins0.00per pick40cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf95e…1816backed NRG Esports73c215.75$157 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.2519752.8%104 W · 93 L+5.7wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+16.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2b35…0bfebacked NRG Esports74c200$147 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5360943.2%263 W · 346 L-12.8wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-3.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked NRG Esports71c200$142 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.311,06654.8%584 W · 482 L+14.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf213…a627backed CCG Esports27c200$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5474949.7%372 W · 377 L-0.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x80d8…b703backed NRG Esports65c200$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$701,59946.8%748 W · 851 L-48.1wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-9.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x52d8…99aebacked NRG Esports69c197.99$137 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.385939%23 W · 36 L+1.4wins+0.02per pick37cpaid-5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5965…d26dbacked CCG Esports8c189.99$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.61361.5%8 W · 5 L+2.6wins+0.20per pick42cpaid+69%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x6c70…9168backed NRG Esports73c177.22$129 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.856251.6%32 W · 30 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-0.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x17cd…c944backed NRG Esports70c177.14$124 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.14333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.6wins-0.19per pick52cpaid-52.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed CCG Esports28c174.74$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.933,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5505…aa44backed CCG Esports31c174.38$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.6314441.7%60 W · 84 L+4.2wins+0.03per pick39cpaid+6.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8192…e1b9backed CCG Esports33c168$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.142020%4 W · 16 L-4.1wins-0.21per pick41cpaid-54.7%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xbf69…4fa2backed CCG Esports25c159.99$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4076229%221 W · 541 L-0.4wins0.00per pick29cpaid+2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4fd9…932fbacked CCG Esports27c149.04$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.245349.1%26 W · 27 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0e43…6583backed CCG Esports13c148.84$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.3519959.8%119 W · 80 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick61cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3c2b…825ebacked NRG Esports69c143.93$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.9310348.5%50 W · 53 L+0.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+7.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked NRG Esports70c142$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.61,92537.1%715 W · 1,210 L-115.8wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-32.8%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6908…d2f4backed CCG Esports11c136.75$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$153633.3%12 W · 24 L0.0wins0.00per pick33cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x67af…61eebacked CCG Esports21c134.98$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.991,49143.5%649 W · 842 L-32.1wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-18.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf908…0aafbacked CCG Esports31c129.03$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4012747.2%60 W · 67 L+5.2wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+3.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed NRG Esports78c119.74$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.961,64043.8%719 W · 921 L-75.5wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-16%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9473…cba4backed CCG Esports13c116.22$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.3756545.1%255 W · 310 L-2.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6cd3…226ebacked CCG Esports11c112.75$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.0956628.8%163 W · 403 L-32.2wins-0.06per pick34cpaid-27.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x5819…2b4fbacked CCG Esports27c108.96$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.4253149.5%263 W · 268 L+30.1wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+17.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked CCG Esports14c107.81$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.5890949.8%453 W · 456 L+8.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-10.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7d0e…4f01backed CCG Esports30c100.12$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.737650%188 W · 188 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1fc4…7ae7backed NRG Esports71c100$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$295749.1%28 W · 29 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-8.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x16f1…e1d1backed CCG Esports26c100$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2640450.7%205 W · 199 L-11.9wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-3.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1b77…6ba1backed NRG Esports72c100$72 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$285234.6%18 W · 34 L-5.4wins-0.10per pick45cpaid-25.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7e8c…500abacked CCG Esports31c91.74$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.44540%2 W · 3 L+0.6wins+0.12per pick28cpaid+10.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7b28…ff4fbacked CCG Esports26c89.72$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.4426941.3%111 W · 158 L-27.4wins-0.10per pick51cpaid-28.8%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x6b17…03b2backed NRG Esports68c83.27$57 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.6413137.4%49 W · 82 L+3.6wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+2.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4836…859bbacked NRG Esports73c80.91$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.8524544.5%109 W · 136 L-12.6wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-6.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x3735…a418backed NRG Esports68c73.53$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.539259.8%55 W · 37 L+0.1wins0.00per pick60cpaid+7.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2c9e…fbfdbacked NRG Esports75c73.33$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.3325640.6%104 W · 152 L-10.2wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-8.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x40d8…9fdabacked NRG Esports73c73.13$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.971957.9%11 W · 8 L+2.0wins+0.11per pick47cpaid+2.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x9575…cd83backed CCG Esports31c64$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.8416847%79 W · 89 L-4.6wins-0.03per pick50cpaid+1.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x14e7…a32cbacked CCG Esports22c63$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.1135341.9%148 W · 205 L-11.6wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-25.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa032…2090backed NRG Esports69c60.82$42 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.9241151.6%212 W · 199 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0af3…9cb5backed NRG Esports74c55.7$41 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.485740.4%23 W · 34 L-4.6wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-20.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x0d10…780bbacked CCG Esports27c55.56$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1514252.1%74 W · 68 L+4.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfedd…32c4backed NRG Esports73c50.35$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.591100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.27per pick73cpaid+37%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2888…f1a4backed CCG Esports30c50$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1555432.3%179 W · 375 L+4.8wins+0.01per pick31cpaid+4.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4b95…b23ebacked CCG Esports31c50$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.51,06144.8%475 W · 586 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-2.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x94bb…02ccbacked CCG Esports30c50$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$159147.3%43 W · 48 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.