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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Natus Vincere vs MOUZ (BO3)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
MOUZof Natus Vincere, MOUZ
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$283,976
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$333,127

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $283,976 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 331 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x8c0b…7aa5backed Natus Vincere31c18,717$5,834 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,833.9145139.2%177 W · 274 L+0.9wins0.00per pick39cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x06a8…2927backed MOUZ57c15,462$8,839 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,622.583228.1%9 W · 23 L-4.8wins-0.15per pick43cpaid-35.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x1624…bf63backed MOUZ70c10,451$7,348 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,102.625930.5%18 W · 41 L-6.5wins-0.11per pick42cpaid+2.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xf9b5…09eebacked MOUZ49c10,077$4,952 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,124.5655157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3da4…28d7backed Natus Vincere43c8,257$3,516 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,515.957647.4%36 W · 40 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-22.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe167…03a1backed MOUZ54c8,192$4,398 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,794.383447.1%16 W · 18 L-2.5wins-0.07per pick54cpaid-11.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb76f…8536backed Natus Vincere46c7,718$3,564 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,563.742065%13 W · 7 L+4.1wins+0.20per pick45cpaid+48.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x2586…f071backed MOUZ78c6,194$4,836 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,357.9334468.9%237 W · 107 L+26.3wins+0.08per pick61cpaid+2.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x2f61…67ebbacked Natus Vincere29c5,251$1,521 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,520.92633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.6wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-36%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x500f…94bfbacked MOUZ58c5,190$3,024 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,165.513558.5%79 W · 56 L+4.3wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf512…40e3backed Natus Vincere46c5,000$2,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,3003650%18 W · 18 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Natus Vincere33c4,446$1,458 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,458.272,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdacd…a083backed MOUZ74c4,321$3,197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,123.41100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.26per pick74cpaid+35.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1f99…c209backed MOUZ57c4,194$2,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,794.3212851.6%66 W · 62 L-9.8wins-0.08per pick59cpaid-15.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf516…79a0backed Natus Vincere41c3,859$1,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,600560%3 W · 2 L+0.3wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+13.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc0ac…fd51backed Natus Vincere52c3,816$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,000425%1 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.21per pick46cpaid-32.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x61fa…7f62backed Natus Vincere35c3,580$1,242 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,241.6446451.5%239 W · 225 L-12.1wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5fbe…7d07backed Natus Vincere48c3,006$1,439 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,438.7125444.5%113 W · 141 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x40f8…327dbacked MOUZ54c3,000$1,620 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,38011839.8%47 W · 71 L-7.5wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-13.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd4a4…a73ebacked Natus Vincere3c3,000$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$952516%4 W · 21 L+1.9wins+0.07per pick9cpaid+33.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x97e1…017bbacked Natus Vincere46c2,884$1,334 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,334.3634146.6%159 W · 182 L+4.8wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-7.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2cad…eb66backed Natus Vincere58c2,795$1,607 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,606.939750.5%49 W · 48 L+0.5wins0.00per pick50cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9767…b5c4backed Natus Vincere51c2,738$1,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,40015946.5%74 W · 85 L+0.7wins0.00per pick46cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked MOUZ60c2,549$1,529 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,020.3278541.7%327 W · 458 L-14.4wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-17.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4d9d…e6c3backed MOUZ55c2,503$1,367 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,135.391957.9%11 W · 8 L-0.6wins-0.03per pick61cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc192…086cbacked Natus Vincere39c2,473$957 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$956.9314538.6%56 W · 89 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick38cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed Natus Vincere48c2,000$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96055751.7%288 W · 269 L+16.7wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6bea…5d50backed MOUZ52c1,851$959 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$891.4747748.6%232 W · 245 L+6.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xb077…8fe8backed MOUZ54c1,793$976 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$817.4519148.7%93 W · 98 L-5.6wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-4.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x224b…8927backed Natus Vincere27c1,561$429 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$428.9510%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.27per pick27cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9592…a85bbacked Natus Vincere44c1,550$684 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$683.550%0 W · 5 L-1.3wins-0.27per pick27cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x8c29…afadbacked MOUZ65c1,538$1,005 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$533.176150.8%31 W · 30 L-4.0wins-0.06per pick57cpaid-15.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x1464…5e75backed Natus Vincere46c1,500$690 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69012351.2%63 W · 60 L-7.0wins-0.06per pick57cpaid-12.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x7600…4478backed Natus Vincere44c1,500$660 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66022647.3%107 W · 119 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked MOUZ48c1,488$718 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$770.485851.3%440 W · 418 L+30.8wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x78a2…d0a5backed Natus Vincere52c1,439$755 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$754.688845.5%40 W · 48 L-6.7wins-0.08per pick53cpaid-10.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x678e…63febacked MOUZ63c1,359$860 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$499.7450%2 W · 2 L-0.9wins-0.22per pick72cpaid-27.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xef26…05babacked Natus Vincere32c1,347$429 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$428.6325446.1%117 W · 137 L+11.9wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+2.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5cdf…1d29backed Natus Vincere48c1,288$613 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$613.221631.3%5 W · 11 L-2.0wins-0.12per pick44cpaid-10.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x49fa…f904backed Natus Vincere19c1,246$241 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$240.961650%8 W · 8 L+2.9wins+0.18per pick32cpaid+51.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x6125…1b5fbacked MOUZ53c1,238$656 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$581.872100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+97.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb8a0…35b6backed Natus Vincere41c1,191$486 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$485.661741.2%7 W · 10 L-0.2wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-13.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xeb29…ea29backed Natus Vincere33c1,165$383 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$382.673735.1%13 W · 24 L-2.1wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-13.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf056…b5dfbacked Natus Vincere49c1,165$567 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$567.041471.4%10 W · 4 L+3.2wins+0.23per pick49cpaid+41.6%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xec7a…a1f2backed MOUZ72c1,126$812 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$314.241963.2%12 W · 7 L+0.1wins0.00per pick63cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Natus Vincere46c1,104$507 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$506.8211855.1%65 W · 53 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe42b…7ea9backed Natus Vincere39c1,098$425 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$424.9646535.1%163 W · 302 L+22.9wins+0.05per pick30cpaid+18.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xda5f…2e9bbacked MOUZ57c1,050$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45011557.4%66 W · 49 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xdcb9…f39abacked Natus Vincere31c1,033$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$319.873852.6%20 W · 18 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9dd9…08bdbacked MOUZ64c1,027$662 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$364.7911145.9%51 W · 60 L-0.1wins0.00per pick46cpaid-19.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3926…7e9ebacked MOUZ56c1,003$561 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$441.152766.7%18 W · 9 L+4.0wins+0.15per pick52cpaid+31.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xaeb5…58e2backed MOUZ55c1,000$550 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$449.5120642.2%87 W · 119 L-0.9wins0.00per pick43cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked Natus Vincere51c993.61$505 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$505.2499844.4%443 W · 555 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7163…3601backed Natus Vincere36c956.61$348 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$348.258560%51 W · 34 L+9.4wins+0.11per pick49cpaid+10.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x1c65…a0b7backed Natus Vincere29c947.27$273 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$273.43911.1%1 W · 8 L-1.6wins-0.18per pick29cpaid-78.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5e5b…5950backed MOUZ60c848.6$509 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$339.82462.5%15 W · 9 L+0.8wins+0.03per pick59cpaid-2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x22d0…6293backed MOUZ53c847.83$449 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$398.486647%31 W · 35 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x625a…7bb3backed MOUZ71c842.32$599 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$243.571947.4%9 W · 10 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed MOUZ77c840.89$644 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$196.5547660.7%289 W · 187 L-0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdb3a…0338backed MOUZ61c813.68$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$313.946963.8%44 W · 25 L+7.4wins+0.11per pick53cpaid+24.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x8052…1124backed MOUZ53c809.99$429 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$380.717146.8%80 W · 91 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x641f…942bbacked MOUZ52c800$416 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3845549.1%27 W · 28 L+3.4wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+34.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x7951…bb41backed MOUZ50c800$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40064744.4%287 W · 360 L+13.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x69db…283abacked Natus Vincere25c782.42$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$193.49250%1 W · 1 L+0.3wins+0.16per pick34cpaid+14.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked Natus Vincere16c757.53$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$118.277258.5%452 W · 320 L+74.8wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x9f7c…5a30backed MOUZ70c753.17$527 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$225.789544.2%42 W · 53 L-4.4wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-22.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2418…66c8backed MOUZ68c706.87$484 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$223.078253.7%44 W · 38 L+3.4wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf96f…b5e5backed Natus Vincere49c685$339 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$338.514341.9%18 W · 25 L-0.1wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2930…4cf8backed Natus Vincere46c673.06$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311.9650%3 W · 3 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-20.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xce1f…7392backed MOUZ57c665$382 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$283.2567853.5%363 W · 315 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb177…1914backed MOUZ54c655.56$354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$301.561050%5 W · 5 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xeea6…135fbacked Natus Vincere22c651.99$141 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$140.686142.6%26 W · 35 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-9.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5028…91c5backed Natus Vincere45c641.59$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$290.129444.7%42 W · 52 L+2.1wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8e53…eaebbacked MOUZ69c637.29$440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.02250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-27.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1bcb…b05abacked Natus Vincere29c600$174 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17438049.2%187 W · 193 L+13.1wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+168.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x47c8…f30abacked Natus Vincere18c600$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1082133.3%7 W · 14 L+0.8wins+0.04per pick29cpaid-11.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8287…059ebacked MOUZ52c600$312 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2881070%7 W · 3 L+2.3wins+0.23per pick47cpaid+62.2%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x762d…45a6backed MOUZ71c581$412 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$168.649955.6%55 W · 44 L+8.8wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+14.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked Natus Vincere29c574.99$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.7516665.7%109 W · 57 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick65cpaid+4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb9fb…95fbbacked MOUZ53c568.92$299 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.198854.5%48 W · 40 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xae17…b10dbacked MOUZ57c527.2$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.21957.9%11 W · 8 L+1.1wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+0.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa134…3ba2backed MOUZ59c518.21$305 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$213.681729.4%5 W · 12 L-2.1wins-0.12per pick41cpaid-35.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Natus Vincere51c499.97$255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$254.993748.6%18 W · 19 L-0.2wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3a56…387cbacked MOUZ60c484.29$290 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$194.092740.7%11 W · 16 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-23.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xefee…d2b3backed Natus Vincere66c478.41$315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$314.7612256.6%69 W · 53 L-7.5wins-0.06per pick63cpaid-13.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x289c…26c5backed Natus Vincere2c477.12$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.5810%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe2a6…9837backed MOUZ53c475.61$252 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$223.54650%3 W · 3 L-0.5wins-0.08per pick58cpaid-26.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x5eab…d552backed Natus Vincere23c472.89$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$110.276725.4%17 W · 50 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick28cpaid+4.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2849…0cd8backed Natus Vincere40c472.43$189 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.971070%7 W · 3 L+1.3wins+0.13per pick57cpaid+23.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf73d…80e7backed MOUZ72c463.63$334 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$129.82540%2 W · 3 L-1.0wins-0.21per pick61cpaid-47.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed Natus Vincere6c449.99$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.16132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x13e9…7cd4backed Natus Vincere47c449.04$209 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209.29045.6%41 W · 49 L+3.7wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+15.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xccf5…42f2backed Natus Vincere47c423.34$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$198.657355.5%318 W · 255 L+7.1wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed MOUZ77c422.14$324 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.1537632.2%121 W · 255 L-13.5wins-0.04per pick36cpaid-36.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0588…8f18backed Natus Vincere18c418.7$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77.451513.3%2 W · 13 L-1.7wins-0.11per pick24cpaid-52%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x68d2…92c8backed Natus Vincere40c405$162 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$161.920%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1197…8311backed Natus Vincere51c402.11$206 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20612661.1%77 W · 49 L+4.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+2.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8c76…477abacked MOUZ49c400$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2049651%49 W · 47 L+3.6wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd82a…9246backed Natus Vincere44c400$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17620%0 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.33per pick33cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xadaf…aefdbacked Natus Vincere26c394.41$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.5512938%49 W · 80 L-4.5wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-16.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.