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Lol · resolved market

LoL: Sentinels vs Dignitas (BO3) - LCS Lock In Group Stage

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Sentinelsof Sentinels, Dignitas
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$2,184,952
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$2,405,622

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $2,184,952 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 145 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x671f…328cbacked Dignitas41c1,709,971$698,818 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$698,818.356040%24 W · 36 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-12.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa5ea…d96abacked Sentinels59c1,391,080$820,737 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$570,342.8555955.8%312 W · 247 L+50.8wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+20.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x3b5c…126ebacked Sentinels78c92,265$71,723 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,542.276141%25 W · 36 L-4.4wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-13.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Sentinels59c86,905$51,274 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35,630.9290348.4%437 W · 466 L+14.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+7.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed Sentinels63c60,884$38,134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22,750.051,82745.6%834 W · 993 L+26.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x57db…ec9fbacked Sentinels61c33,750$20,510 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,239.641100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.39per pick61cpaid+64.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0a8c…a355backed Dignitas39c33,750$13,240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,239.6410%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.39per pick39cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4337…8882backed Sentinels59c18,888$11,144 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,744.081,09834.8%382 W · 716 L-17.1wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Sentinels61c10,978$6,671 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,307.785046%391 W · 459 L-11.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-13.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xed2c…9597backed Sentinels63c8,676$5,446 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,230.2541644.2%184 W · 232 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-11.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Sentinels65c8,135$5,263 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,872.551,59842.4%677 W · 921 L-17.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8c16…4b37backed Sentinels63c7,746$4,853 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,892.5918350.8%93 W · 90 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfdf…8e02backed Sentinels60c7,000$4,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,8002740.7%11 W · 16 L+0.1wins0.00per pick41cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7298…fe8dbacked Sentinels60c6,960$4,176 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,78417537.1%65 W · 110 L+0.7wins0.00per pick37cpaid+9.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x733d…1ae7backed Sentinels60c6,500$3,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,6003268.8%22 W · 10 L+7.2wins+0.22per pick46cpaid+130.5%equal weight64+0.13 edge/pick
0x17f1…af18backed Dignitas8c6,245$513 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$512.733775.6%21 W · 356 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick5cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbf5e…4e1abacked Sentinels60c5,926$3,543 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,383.616325.2%41 W · 122 L-15.8wins-0.10per pick35cpaid-34.8%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Dignitas32c4,133$1,322 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,321.812,30339.4%907 W · 1,396 L-82.2wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-20.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xb6ae…4df8backed Dignitas40c3,911$1,576 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,575.831233.3%4 W · 8 L-1.3wins-0.10per pick44cpaid-6.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3212…634ebacked Dignitas15c3,424$519 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$518.6221536.7%79 W · 136 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick34cpaid+2.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Sentinels60c3,012$1,817 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,194.673,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x55d4…9b41backed Sentinels60c3,000$1,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,200955.6%5 W · 4 L-0.7wins-0.08per pick64cpaid-11.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3414…067abacked Dignitas33c3,000$990 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$989.9977131.8%245 W · 526 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick31cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a6f…6b82backed Sentinels60c2,667$1,610 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,056.749348.4%45 W · 48 L-5.9wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-15.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0f18…c9fdbacked Sentinels61c2,595$1,576 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,019.026746.3%31 W · 36 L-3.5wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-13.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2218…9467backed Sentinels66c2,565$1,687 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$877.991376.9%10 W · 3 L+2.3wins+0.18per pick59cpaid+23.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Sentinels60c2,509$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,008.871,25838.6%485 W · 773 L-61.8wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-20.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x1064…f153backed Sentinels59c2,500$1,475 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,02549549.1%243 W · 252 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Dignitas32c2,309$740 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$740.399338.6%383 W · 610 L-21.3wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-19.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc8da…a6e6backed Sentinels63c2,000$1,260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74012839.8%51 W · 77 L-4.3wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-16.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x04bd…39a0backed Sentinels59c2,000$1,180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8201,22945.1%554 W · 675 L+48.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x6e12…20e9backed Sentinels60c1,967$1,180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$786.6712035.8%43 W · 77 L-12.6wins-0.11per pick46cpaid-26.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x4ffe…9f71backed Dignitas1c1,904$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.4389810.7%96 W · 802 L+2.6wins0.00per pick10cpaid-36.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9569…27fdbacked Dignitas41c1,828$741 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$740.687061.4%43 W · 27 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick59cpaid+4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked Sentinels60c1,827$1,094 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$733.3577949.9%389 W · 390 L+12.9wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfaf1…795fbacked Sentinels59c1,761$1,044 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$716.897646.1%35 W · 41 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-3.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5498…126fbacked Sentinels63c1,580$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$579.62955.2%16 W · 13 L+0.5wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe732…898fbacked Sentinels80c1,549$1,237 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$311.7915149%74 W · 77 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x778d…cbe2backed Sentinels60c1,500$900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6003545.7%16 W · 19 L-2.7wins-0.08per pick54cpaid-17.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed Sentinels67c1,330$891 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$439.169756.5%394 W · 303 L+26.1wins+0.04per pick53cpaid-0.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc65c…ea39backed Sentinels64c1,328$847 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$480.7712759.8%76 W · 51 L+5.7wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+10.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xbfd6…ab3dbacked Sentinels59c1,168$691 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$477.139044.9%175 W · 215 L+15.9wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5a3c…38d3backed Sentinels60c1,138$679 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$459.3356432.1%181 W · 383 L-2.3wins0.00per pick32cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xeda0…7dffbacked Dignitas34c1,094$372 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$372.0914228.2%40 W · 102 L-9.6wins-0.07per pick35cpaid-30.8%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x2ecb…7645backed Dignitas30c1,070$319 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$318.651,72629.4%507 W · 1,219 L-124.5wins-0.07per pick37cpaid-39.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x07dd…0876backed Dignitas35c1,013$359 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$359.138033.8%27 W · 53 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+26.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x96bc…7fb4backed Sentinels59c1,000$590 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41024240.9%99 W · 143 L-7.0wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-9.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xefac…c9a1backed Dignitas36c1,000$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36021736.9%80 W · 137 L-13.5wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-25.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xa5cf…8cc5backed Dignitas35c999.97$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$349.991,18044.5%525 W · 655 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcea6…67adbacked Dignitas41c973.81$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40028150.5%142 W · 139 L-5.0wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb177…1914backed Sentinels60c930$558 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3723336.4%12 W · 21 L-4.8wins-0.15per pick51cpaid-27.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Dignitas21c901.02$189 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.931,15842.6%493 W · 665 L-23.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-20.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8ade…e692backed Sentinels63c885.76$557 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$328.5622654.4%123 W · 103 L+20.9wins+0.09per pick45cpaid+17.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xedbd…9a3bbacked Dignitas25c881.84$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2206344.4%28 W · 35 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x17cd…7423backed Dignitas35c872.89$306 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$305.5142735.4%151 W · 276 L-17.6wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-13.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x67cc…942fbacked Sentinels60c838.57$502 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$336.5715141.7%63 W · 88 L-9.2wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-18.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked Dignitas31c828$257 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256.5153640.3%216 W · 320 L-8.1wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-19.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1fef…b2b5backed Sentinels59c809.5$477 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$332.12744.4%12 W · 15 L-1.8wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-18.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x65ce…b90bbacked Dignitas15c799.99$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1246139.3%24 W · 37 L+0.2wins0.00per pick39cpaid-2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x45db…8f65backed Dignitas23c723.61$166 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$165.752231.8%7 W · 15 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+10%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x53ab…65aabacked Dignitas40c700$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2801,60948.4%779 W · 830 L+24.6wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xec56…dd09backed Sentinels60c666.67$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$266.671100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.40per pick60cpaid+66.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x40ce…bf90backed Sentinels65c517.65$336 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.181,15156%644 W · 507 L+25.4wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+8.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc4b2…4ab2backed Dignitas41c490$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$202.266445.6%303 W · 361 L+14.3wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4ec4…6529backed Dignitas17c478.74$81 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.3913136.6%48 W · 83 L-6.9wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-10.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x9f67…da0ebacked Dignitas42c476.12$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20010133.7%34 W · 67 L-6.6wins-0.07per pick40cpaid-13.6%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0c9e…bba8backed Dignitas22c419$91 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$90.83135.5%11 W · 20 L-1.8wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-19.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x260c…7130backed Dignitas40c400$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16023932.6%78 W · 161 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick34cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x94a1…2075backed Sentinels61c399.99$246 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15426950.9%137 W · 132 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd43f…0bb0backed Dignitas13c385.38$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.11,12930%339 W · 790 L-27.3wins-0.02per pick32cpaid-10.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd96…e623backed Sentinels60c378$227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.239851.8%206 W · 192 L+0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x99fe…b61cbacked Sentinels61c358.09$220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$138.0936246.4%168 W · 194 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Dignitas41c287.03$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$117.6315945.3%72 W · 87 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick46cpaid+0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93f4…ea90backed Dignitas35c285$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.751,11049%544 W · 566 L+42.0wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+10.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed Dignitas8c271.99$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.011,07926%281 W · 798 L-99.0wins-0.09per pick35cpaid-46.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xd011…ac5dbacked Sentinels61c271.83$165 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$106.8325648.4%124 W · 132 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid+0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3078…0389backed Dignitas38c259.94$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.0144128.1%124 W · 317 L-7.3wins-0.02per pick30cpaid-9.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5e65…b9f2backed Dignitas5c246.14$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.176235.5%22 W · 40 L+3.0wins+0.05per pick31cpaid-11.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4c9d…3e29backed Dignitas41c243.9$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1005250%26 W · 26 L+3.6wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+27.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2a35…9015backed Dignitas43c232.56$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10036943.9%162 W · 207 L-16.5wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5f19…ec51backed Dignitas15c230$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.364738.3%18 W · 29 L-1.6wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-33.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3008…50d9backed Dignitas33c225$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.251258.3%7 W · 5 L+2.6wins+0.21per pick37cpaid+72.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x9801…1ab6backed Dignitas40c223.14$89 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$88.968439.3%33 W · 51 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-16.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5f9b…71f8backed Dignitas37c213.51$79 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$793438.2%13 W · 21 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick38cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd730…1948backed Sentinels59c205.26$121 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$83.831833.3%6 W · 12 L-3.3wins-0.19per pick52cpaid-35.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x2657…4af5backed Sentinels60c200$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$805836.2%21 W · 37 L-3.2wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-8.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xdb91…7db6backed Dignitas5c200$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1030348.8%148 W · 155 L+14.9wins+0.05per pick44cpaid+11.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x57d5…0bbdbacked Dignitas8c194.45$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1517132.2%55 W · 116 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick34cpaid-7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xddae…7d66backed Dignitas39c181.95$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7112857.8%74 W · 54 L+6.4wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+14%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe2bb…ea55backed Sentinels62c174.22$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.218549.7%92 W · 93 L-6.4wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-5.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x764f…846ebacked Sentinels60c166.67$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.672250%11 W · 11 L+2.0wins+0.09per pick41cpaid+39.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xfe1d…219ebacked Sentinels59c152.54$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.547862.8%49 W · 29 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick61cpaid+5.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xea9e…d3fbbacked Dignitas39c150$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.531829.2%93 W · 225 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick30cpaid+0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcbb5…5ed9backed Dignitas35c148.57$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5214761.9%91 W · 56 L+10.3wins+0.07per pick55cpaid+15.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x3e47…a7abbacked Dignitas18c138.89$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2511559.1%68 W · 47 L+5.5wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+6.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe63b…b7c9backed Dignitas41c134.84$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$553438.2%13 W · 21 L+1.1wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+6.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbcf0…f4b7backed Sentinels60c129.5$78 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.81250%6 W · 6 L-0.7wins-0.06per pick56cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfc8f…3782backed Dignitas37c128.04$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.031,31037.3%489 W · 821 L-86.3wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-26.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa9f9…bb8fbacked Sentinels60c122.5$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$497044.3%31 W · 39 L-4.4wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-12.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5d9e…e0e3backed Dignitas36c118$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.321350.2%107 W · 106 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-18.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.