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NHL · resolved market

Stars vs. Blue Jackets

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Blue Jacketsof Stars, Blue Jackets
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$727,406
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$744,962

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $727,406 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 575 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x1222…2aa7backed Stars51c305,195$155,405 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$155,405.354654.3%25 W · 21 L+2.8wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+11.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa5ea…d96abacked Blue Jackets49c300,000$147,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153,00010840.7%44 W · 64 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x03e8…1697backed Blue Jackets49c56,651$27,626 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29,024.9967051%342 W · 328 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x86d5…6575backed Stars51c47,882$24,420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,4201020%2 W · 8 L-3.1wins-0.31per pick51cpaid-61.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Blue Jackets48c34,929$16,902 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,027.471,94849.4%962 W · 986 L+24.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x68dd…f0b2backed Stars51c20,000$10,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,20025449.2%125 W · 129 L+2.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Stars52c16,009$8,366 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,365.911,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x52b4…34a8backed Blue Jackets47c15,640$7,361 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,279.0922150.2%111 W · 110 L+8.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+11.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7d5c…0182backed Blue Jackets48c15,303$7,345 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,957.6228353%150 W · 133 L+16.6wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+14.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc660…bd28backed Blue Jackets50c14,140$7,070 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,07048549.7%241 W · 244 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed Blue Jackets51c13,826$6,997 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,828.5741850%209 W · 209 L+7.7wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed Stars45c11,500$5,215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,214.9961748.5%299 W · 318 L+0.4wins0.00per pick48cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Stars52c10,650$5,521 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,520.7447951.4%246 W · 233 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1117…3532backed Stars52c10,294$5,306 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,305.9456649.5%280 W · 286 L-7.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed Stars50c10,116$5,057 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,056.8421755.3%120 W · 97 L+0.3wins0.00per pick55cpaid+0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xead0…f3babacked Stars52c10,000$5,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,200.0432946.8%154 W · 175 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xedf0…1e2abacked Blue Jackets49c10,000$4,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,10014940.9%61 W · 88 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5836…4d03backed Blue Jackets49c10,000$4,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,1008247.6%39 W · 43 L+4.6wins+0.06per pick42cpaid+11.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1d7a…b22fbacked Stars51c8,227$4,196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,19616843.5%73 W · 95 L-14.3wins-0.09per pick52cpaid-16.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x19ed…6dc8backed Blue Jackets77c7,291$5,627 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,664.2714753.7%79 W · 68 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaf35…b5eabacked Stars53c6,767$3,587 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,586.511445.6%52 W · 62 L+6.0wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+11.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Blue Jackets74c6,493$4,788 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,704.41,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9c4d…168cbacked Blue Jackets46c6,490$2,985 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,504.51,08745.1%490 W · 597 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0a7e…fce4backed Stars50c5,690$2,849 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,848.6951044.5%227 W · 283 L+7.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8bd8…f306backed Stars51c5,000$2,550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,55031654.7%173 W · 143 L+14.7wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x7e33…1482backed Stars10c5,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5002850%14 W · 14 L+2.8wins+0.10per pick40cpaid+37.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Stars53c5,000$2,650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,649.9666951%341 W · 328 L-14.2wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x91fd…1cdebacked Stars52c4,996$2,598 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,597.6713948.2%67 W · 72 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb4b7…3c8bbacked Stars50c4,500$2,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,2507347.9%35 W · 38 L-0.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Stars51c4,487$2,311 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,310.561,55551.4%800 W · 755 L+12.2wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Blue Jackets48c4,387$2,090 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,296.911,67954.4%914 W · 765 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc257…358ebacked Stars50c4,304$2,152 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,152.2148545.4%220 W · 265 L-7.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe4fc…8af7backed Stars50c4,249$2,146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,145.7960249.5%298 W · 304 L-5.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1d3a…7b63backed Stars53c4,100$2,173 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,17386649.9%432 W · 434 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x09ca…b99dbacked Blue Jackets50c4,039$2,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,019.611154.5%6 W · 5 L+0.5wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7f6c…b40cbacked Blue Jackets50c4,000$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,0001100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x91b6…fe58backed Stars51c3,922$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,0001154.5%6 W · 5 L+0.4wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+6.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x38ed…4ed7backed Stars51c3,922$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00010%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3c7e…a65fbacked Blue Jackets48c3,642$1,748 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,893.5960337.5%226 W · 377 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xebbb…4214backed Stars28c3,571$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00012835.9%46 W · 82 L-7.9wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-26%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x56c2…17bfbacked Stars51c3,333$1,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,699.8325447.2%120 W · 134 L-1.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa558…1b44backed Stars51c3,082$1,572 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5724240.5%17 W · 25 L-2.8wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-14.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7bd8…aeabbacked Stars51c3,052$1,569 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,569.2426955.8%150 W · 119 L+7.0wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4c25…c3bebacked Blue Jackets49c3,000$1,470 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,529.9624945.4%113 W · 136 L-16.4wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-11.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x9870…b9d3backed Stars51c2,941$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50031550.8%160 W · 155 L-11.6wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-7.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x7298…fe8dbacked Blue Jackets46c2,600$1,196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,40433243.7%145 W · 187 L-16.1wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x08a4…5c3fbacked Stars50c2,556$1,278 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,27830551.5%157 W · 148 L+10.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+4.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Stars51c2,502$1,276 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,275.91,19050.7%603 W · 587 L+13.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Stars51c2,500$1,275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,27568449.9%341 W · 343 L-3.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8758…01e0backed Stars51c2,500$1,275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2752524%6 W · 19 L-5.7wins-0.23per pick47cpaid-38.4%equal weight37-0.11 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Stars26c2,379$622 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$622.332,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Stars51c2,300$1,170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,169.51,14350.8%581 W · 562 L+11.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4d4f…2ba1backed Stars50c2,246$1,123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,123.15250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe656…f009backed Blue Jackets50c2,200$1,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,100425%1 W · 3 L-0.8wins-0.21per pick46cpaid-50%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x46f4…5bc0backed Blue Jackets48c2,083$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,083.337138%27 W · 44 L-2.6wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-10.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd529…f0d4backed Blue Jackets47c2,000$940 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0604346.5%20 W · 23 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+3.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x64e9…eb4cbacked Stars54c2,000$1,080 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,08010848.1%52 W · 56 L-5.4wins-0.05per pick53cpaid-7.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x4d3a…64b7backed Blue Jackets49c2,000$980 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,019.9912041.7%50 W · 70 L-10.9wins-0.09per pick51cpaid-18.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x17e0…80aebacked Stars25c1,874$469 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$468.6132744%144 W · 183 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-11.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdc87…7ab6backed Blue Jackets46c1,833$843 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$989.6856152%292 W · 269 L+7.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf1f4…8e52backed Stars52c1,780$926 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$925.610%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.52per pick52cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4976…f422backed Blue Jackets49c1,730$848 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$882.31100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.51per pick49cpaid+104.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x209e…8bb4backed Blue Jackets49c1,700$833 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86731148.2%150 W · 161 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Stars50c1,642$825 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$824.52,89451.3%1,484 W · 1,410 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x10d4…d953backed Blue Jackets48c1,584$763 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$821.0944551.2%228 W · 217 L+16.4wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+9.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Stars54c1,533$828 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$827.821,43450.8%728 W · 706 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x293f…3e52backed Blue Jackets50c1,500$750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7505736.8%21 W · 36 L-3.0wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-15.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Stars1c1,477$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.777450.7%5 W · 740 L-13.2wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-94.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed Stars15c1,416$217 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$216.9822728.2%64 W · 163 L-17.6wins-0.08per pick36cpaid-37.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xa0f2…1848backed Stars34c1,359$459 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$458.624323.3%10 W · 33 L-5.8wins-0.14per pick37cpaid-50.7%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x2af2…ec6fbacked Stars51c1,353$690 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$690.15366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.14per pick52cpaid+26.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Stars30c1,351$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$406.221,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x48c0…0a70backed Stars36c1,300$468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$468862.5%5 W · 3 L+1.4wins+0.17per pick45cpaid+34.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Blue Jackets50c1,244$622 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$621.961950.1%310 W · 309 L-7.6wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7634…1b96backed Blue Jackets50c1,218$609 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60920047.5%95 W · 105 L-9.1wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Stars24c1,217$298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$297.6699638.2%380 W · 616 L-10.3wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-12.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x200c…58eabacked Stars51c1,206$615 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$615.293764.9%24 W · 13 L+3.6wins+0.10per pick55cpaid+22.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x977a…f2cabacked Stars5c1,200$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$591,1632.3%27 W · 1,136 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-87.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5d1e…d5dfbacked Blue Jackets65c1,180$767 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41314757.1%84 W · 63 L+0.1wins0.00per pick57cpaid-7.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Stars51c1,166$595 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$594.661,23053.7%661 W · 569 L-9.1wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x14f3…0c3dbacked Stars51c1,144$583 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$583.4314848%71 W · 77 L-0.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xee7e…61bbbacked Stars53c1,136$605 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60541248.3%199 W · 213 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2eed…85a9backed Blue Jackets65c1,134$737 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$396.857358.9%43 W · 30 L+4.1wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+14%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x2f9d…3480backed Stars51c1,133$578 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$577.81050%5 W · 5 L-0.5wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-11.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xce4d…a7fabacked Stars54c1,109$596 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$595.5925555.3%141 W · 114 L+10.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+3.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xaabb…5554backed Stars51c1,100$556 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$555.545749.2%225 W · 232 L-5.2wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x161a…4103backed Blue Jackets63c1,030$649 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$381.581,20260.1%722 W · 480 L+51.9wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+15%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9764…c40cbacked Blue Jackets49c1,020$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$520.418547.1%40 W · 45 L+4.4wins+0.05per pick42cpaid+11.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd6ce…7ec8backed Stars54c1,000$535 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53562346.9%292 W · 331 L-3.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-2.2%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xd589…27c2backed Stars50c1,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50042847.2%202 W · 226 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcc81…5df2backed Stars51c1,000$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5109552.6%50 W · 45 L-3.8wins-0.04per pick57cpaid-5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6a89…2f26backed Blue Jackets50c1,000$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50070547.7%336 W · 369 L-26.9wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-7.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x17e5…f205backed Stars1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102420.8%2 W · 240 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick2cpaid-17.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8046…a845backed Stars50c1,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5002540%10 W · 15 L-3.1wins-0.12per pick52cpaid-26.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x5611…e5f4backed Stars51c980.39$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5009547.4%45 W · 50 L-5.2wins-0.05per pick53cpaid-12.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0e87…2171backed Blue Jackets60c979.07$590 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$389.1115360.8%93 W · 60 L+5.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+2.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x765c…0779backed Stars50c899.99$454 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$454.540049.3%197 W · 203 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x42b5…b5b6backed Blue Jackets45c866.56$390 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$476.611,37749.1%676 W · 701 L+39.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf5a7…63e7backed Stars52c807.69$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42031848.1%153 W · 165 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8fb4…5c6cbacked Stars51c784.31$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4005752.6%30 W · 27 L+1.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.