South American Leagues · resolved market
Deportivo La Guaira FC vs. CS Independiente Rivadavia: O/U 2.5
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0x5695e64cd90f916312b4353f23f19da76300c8751963001f411a2c9bbd0efa96
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What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Overof Over, Under
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- South American Leaguesevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $47,616
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $63,261
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $47,616 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 79 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in South American Leagues is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in South American Leagues | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0xe5f0…dc1dbacked Over | 36c | 14,463$5,271 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9,192.78 | 143 | 30.8%44 W · 99 L | +1.9wins | +0.01per pick | 29cpaid | +2.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x05e3…4b87backed Over | 33c | 6,060$2,000 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4,060.09 | 171 | 46.2%79 W · 92 L | -1.3wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -0.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x204f…5e14backed Under | 66c | 4,387$2,909 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$2,909.05 | 8,112 | 48.7%3,951 W · 4,161 L | +27.1wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -8.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf0f7…0c5abacked Under | 48c | 3,606$1,731 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,730.98 | 107 | 41.1%44 W · 63 L | -6.3wins | -0.06per pick | 47cpaid | -14.6%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x7236…ea53backed Under | 63c | 3,172$1,999 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,998.65 | 248 | 55.2%137 W · 111 L | +2.6wins | +0.01per pick | 54cpaid | +0.8%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6d3c…d294backed Under | 63c | 1,676$1,054 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,054.1 | 1,945 | 51.3%998 W · 947 L | +40.0wins | +0.02per pick | 49cpaid | +7.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x52d9…fb1abacked Under | 65c | 1,450$944 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$944.35 | 1,447 | 45.9%664 W · 783 L | -22.0wins | -0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -12.5%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe1a6…d584backed Under | 63c | 1,400$882 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$882 | 165 | 58.2%96 W · 69 L | +6.5wins | +0.04per pick | 54cpaid | +11.3%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x2005…75eabacked Over | 46c | 1,069$493 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$575.56 | 5,762 | 45.4%2,614 W · 3,148 L | +94.9wins | +0.02per pick | 44cpaid | -7.4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7ea5…de7bbacked Under | 64c | 1,060$680 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$680.17 | 3,407 | 51.3%1,749 W · 1,658 L | +21.2wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | +0.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xca89…7bc4backed Under | 63c | 1,000$630 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$630 | 195 | 59.5%116 W · 79 L | +7.6wins | +0.04per pick | 56cpaid | +7.8%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x0def…4ddbbacked Over | 38c | 935.36$353 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$582.22 | 41 | 63.4%26 W · 15 L | +4.5wins | +0.11per pick | 52cpaid | +24.7%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xfb13…5946backed Under | 65c | 920$598 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$598 | 240 | 53.8%129 W · 111 L | -0.9wins | 0.00per pick | 54cpaid | +1.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x47c7…cac7backed Over | 35c | 920$322 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$598 | 224 | 57.1%128 W · 96 L | +5.6wins | +0.03per pick | 55cpaid | +6.6%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc291…5d74backed Under | 64c | 906.45$582 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$581.69 | 3,755 | 38.2%1,435 W · 2,320 L | -32.5wins | -0.01per pick | 39cpaid | -8.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2a69…d2f7backed Over | 48c | 687.81$331 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$356.41 | 2,519 | 39%982 W · 1,537 L | -32.2wins | -0.01per pick | 40cpaid | -14%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe75e…4b67backed Under | 63c | 600$378 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$378 | 183 | 58.5%107 W · 76 L | +6.8wins | +0.04per pick | 55cpaid | +9.3%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x606f…b043backed Under | 63c | 520$328 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$327.6 | 165 | 59.4%98 W · 67 L | +6.7wins | +0.04per pick | 55cpaid | +10.8%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xf800…bdbabacked Under | 64c | 500$318 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$318 | 218 | 37.6%82 W · 136 L | -12.0wins | -0.05per pick | 43cpaid | -10.2%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xd01c…7f9dbacked Under | 67c | 463$310 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$310.21 | 1,355 | 49.7%674 W · 681 L | -8.1wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9e35…3655backed Over | 36c | 419.12$150 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$269.12 | 29 | 31%9 W · 20 L | -0.8wins | -0.03per pick | 34cpaid | -6.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x200f…7a96backed Under | 64c | 394$253 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$253.29 | 2,614 | 54.2%1,416 W · 1,198 L | +25.1wins | +0.01per pick | 53cpaid | +1.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8d4a…e7cabacked Under | 71c | 362.68$257 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$257.5 | 27 | 51.9%14 W · 13 L | -1.7wins | -0.06per pick | 58cpaid | -17.7%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf92f…1a35backed Over | 36c | 327.78$118 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$209.78 | 14 | 42.9%6 W · 8 L | +1.6wins | +0.11per pick | 32cpaid | +2.7%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x60ab…e297backed Under | 63c | 320$202 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$201.6 | 213 | 58.7%125 W · 88 L | +7.1wins | +0.03per pick | 55cpaid | +6.2%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf1e0…041bbacked Under | 63c | 312$197 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$196.56 | 216 | 57.9%125 W · 91 L | +2.8wins | +0.01per pick | 57cpaid | +3.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6fa1…6edbbacked Under | 63c | 312$197 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$196.56 | 203 | 60.6%123 W · 80 L | +9.1wins | +0.04per pick | 56cpaid | +10.1%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa2c3…3e18backed Under | 7c | 291.66$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 59 | 54.2%32 W · 27 L | +6.2wins | +0.11per pick | 44cpaid | +30.1%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xc718…64a8backed Over | 53c | 283.06$150 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$133.04 | 258 | 66.3%171 W · 87 L | +2.9wins | +0.01per pick | 65cpaid | +0.8%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x85d8…3cbebacked Over | 37c | 271.11$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$171.11 | 317 | 45.1%143 W · 174 L | -3.7wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x7d0c…a3b7backed Under | 66c | 246$162 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$162.3 | 2,335 | 51.5%1,202 W · 1,133 L | +2.6wins | 0.00per pick | 51cpaid | +0.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xdc52…dfcebacked Under | 63c | 239.99$151 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$151.19 | 36 | 52.8%19 W · 17 L | +1.4wins | +0.04per pick | 49cpaid | +16.3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2e62…b22ebacked Under | 65c | 236$153 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$153.4 | 138 | 28.3%39 W · 99 L | -3.8wins | -0.03per pick | 31cpaid | -1.2%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xd81f…6b75backed Under | 66c | 230.81$151 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$151.34 | 422 | 50.2%212 W · 210 L | -4.7wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -8.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4502…9eedbacked Under | 7c | 214.28$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15 | 160 | 51.3%82 W · 78 L | +5.9wins | +0.04per pick | 48cpaid | +7.6%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x6f81…2bb7backed Under | 63c | 200$126 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$126 | 242 | 57%138 W · 104 L | +4.9wins | +0.02per pick | 55cpaid | +2.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xdd59…2e2fbacked Under | 63c | 200$126 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$126 | 189 | 59.3%112 W · 77 L | +7.2wins | +0.04per pick | 55cpaid | +8.4%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x53eb…90ebbacked Under | 22c | 195.45$43 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$43 | 54 | 42.6%23 W · 31 L | -0.7wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -17.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xdc4f…9804backed Under | 64c | 193$123 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$122.88 | 788 | 56.3%444 W · 344 L | +23.4wins | +0.03per pick | 53cpaid | +7.2%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x2c46…dac9backed Over | 36c | 167.15$60 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$106.78 | 1,253 | 56.2%704 W · 549 L | +73.3wins | +0.06per pick | 50cpaid | +10.6%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xe907…cff6backed Over | 34c | 142.76$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$94.22 | 1,442 | 37.6%542 W · 900 L | +4.8wins | 0.00per pick | 37cpaid | +0.5%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xc978…706bbacked Under | 67c | 134.34$90 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$90.01 | 58 | 48.3%28 W · 30 L | -1.2wins | -0.02per pick | 50cpaid | -16.8%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8968…c3c1backed Under | 65c | 130.4$84 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$84.5 | 97 | 41.2%40 W · 57 L | -8.3wins | -0.09per pick | 50cpaid | -23.7%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x5bda…17a8backed Under | 62c | 120$74 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$74.4 | 61 | 44.3%27 W · 34 L | -3.8wins | -0.06per pick | 50cpaid | -17.9%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x99d7…6435backed Under | 63c | 93.75$59 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$59.06 | 29 | 48.3%14 W · 15 L | +0.4wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x948b…a188backed Under | 65c | 93.29$61 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$60.64 | 636 | 57.5%366 W · 270 L | -5.6wins | -0.01per pick | 58cpaid | -5.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xc0f9…92e3backed Under | 65c | 90$59 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$58.5 | 51 | 52.9%27 W · 24 L | -0.8wins | -0.01per pick | 54cpaid | -2.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0fa1…bf73backed Over | 37c | 84.95$32 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$53.32 | 251 | 47.8%120 W · 131 L | +11.0wins | +0.04per pick | 43cpaid | +13.1%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd100…853dbacked Under | 67c | 77.95$52 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$52.19 | 36 | 41.7%15 W · 21 L | -5.4wins | -0.15per pick | 57cpaid | -29.1%equal weight | 40-0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x36b3…e421backed Over | 32c | 73.91$24 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$50.15 | 173 | 52%90 W · 83 L | +4.6wins | +0.03per pick | 49cpaid | +0.3%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc482…f0bebacked Over | 33c | 60.61$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40.61 | 65 | 44.6%29 W · 36 L | +3.7wins | +0.06per pick | 39cpaid | +16.9%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xdb83…1e50backed Under | 66c | 59.62$39 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$39.35 | 1,303 | 50.1%653 W · 650 L | -14.2wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -3.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9aa1…0193backed Over | 30c | 54.33$16 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$38.03 | 29 | 58.6%17 W · 12 L | +0.1wins | 0.00per pick | 58cpaid | +4.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x0d5f…1171backed Under | 71c | 50.65$36 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$35.96 | 333 | 65.5%218 W · 115 L | +10.7wins | +0.03per pick | 62cpaid | +5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf28e…0bb1backed Over | 37c | 50$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.5 | 69 | 44.9%31 W · 38 L | +1.9wins | +0.03per pick | 42cpaid | +4.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa8ae…7f3ebacked Over | 32c | 46.97$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.94 | 47 | 36.2%17 W · 30 L | +1.1wins | +0.02per pick | 34cpaid | +5.9%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x418b…a741backed Over | 38c | 44.74$17 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$27.74 | 359 | 58.8%211 W · 148 L | -6.7wins | -0.02per pick | 61cpaid | -4.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xcee6…0a45backed Under | 65c | 42$27 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$27.3 | 172 | 55.2%95 W · 77 L | -2.5wins | -0.01per pick | 57cpaid | -2.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa9d3…9d4bbacked Under | 63c | 40$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25.2 | 114 | 59.6%68 W · 46 L | +2.6wins | +0.02per pick | 57cpaid | +1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x1edb…a60bbacked Under | 66c | 35.5$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$23.43 | 54 | 48.1%26 W · 28 L | +0.5wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | +11.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4a84…4406backed Under | 67c | 34.03$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.8 | 17 | 52.9%9 W · 8 L | -0.7wins | -0.04per pick | 57cpaid | -12.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x288a…0048backed Under | 65c | 32$21 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20.8 | 230 | 56.5%130 W · 100 L | +2.9wins | +0.01per pick | 55cpaid | +1.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x32cc…68b3backed Under | 67c | 31.35$21 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20.96 | 571 | 57.8%330 W · 241 L | +9.0wins | +0.02per pick | 56cpaid | -1.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x72b8…6253backed Over | 37c | 30$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.9 | 33 | 39.4%13 W · 20 L | -0.4wins | -0.01per pick | 41cpaid | -12.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x7bfc…e101backed Over | 53c | 28.48$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.48 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | -0.2wins | -0.08per pick | 58cpaid | -5.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x51eb…6bfabacked Under | 64c | 27.91$18 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$17.86 | 70 | 48.6%34 W · 36 L | -6.7wins | -0.10per pick | 58cpaid | -14.5%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xf886…d825backed Under | 67c | 26.61$18 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$17.79 | 31 | 58.1%18 W · 13 L | -0.1wins | 0.00per pick | 58cpaid | -2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8935…7daabacked Under | 61c | 25.49$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15.54 | 675 | 48%324 W · 351 L | -18.6wins | -0.03per pick | 51cpaid | -12.3%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb595…5922backed Over | 80c | 25$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5.1 | 88 | 87.5%77 W · 11 L | +19.9wins | +0.23per pick | 65cpaid | +42%equal weight | 70+0.18 edge/pick |
| 0x86fb…03d4backed Under | 69c | 24.38$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16.82 | 335 | 60.9%204 W · 131 L | +18.7wins | +0.06per pick | 55cpaid | +7.6%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x5d1d…afd2backed Under | 69c | 24.38$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16.82 | 650 | 58%377 W · 273 L | +21.6wins | +0.03per pick | 55cpaid | +3.4%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb66c…a0f5backed Under | 65c | 23.22$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15 | 106 | 52.8%56 W · 50 L | -2.1wins | -0.02per pick | 55cpaid | +1.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc37e…9e64backed Under | 69c | 21.64$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.91 | 26 | 69.2%18 W · 8 L | +2.6wins | +0.10per pick | 59cpaid | +10.8%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x8098…5646backed Under | 67c | 20.02$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.43 | 167 | 59.9%100 W · 67 L | +1.6wins | +0.01per pick | 59cpaid | -1.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd7f9…29a9backed Under | 67c | 20$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.36 | 209 | 58.4%122 W · 87 L | -1.9wins | -0.01per pick | 59cpaid | -5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x651c…1084backed Over | 50c | 20$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10 | 9 | 66.7%6 W · 3 L | +0.9wins | +0.10per pick | 57cpaid | +16%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x3542…2e5bbacked Under | 68c | 19.07$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.97 | 2 | 0%0 W · 2 L | -1.3wins | -0.67per pick | 67cpaid | -100%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x18d2…e9c3backed Under | 67c | 16.08$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.83 | 35 | 65.7%23 W · 12 L | -0.3wins | -0.01per pick | 66cpaid | +1.4%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0xaedd…ad5bbacked Under | 68c | 14.94$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.16 | 286 | 65%186 W · 100 L | +9.0wins | +0.03per pick | 62cpaid | +5.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in South American Leagues and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 9 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Deportivo La Guaira FC vs. CS Independiente Rivadavia: O/U 2.5this page
- Deportivo La Guaira FC vs. CS Independiente Rivadavia: Both Teams to ScoreYes won
- Deportivo La Guaira FC vs. CS Independiente Rivadavia: O/U 1.5Over won
- Deportivo La Guaira FC vs. CS Independiente Rivadavia: O/U 3.5Over won
- Deportivo La Guaira FC vs. CS Independiente Rivadavia: O/U 4.5Over won
- Spread: CS Independiente Rivadavia (-1.5)CS Independiente Rivadavia won
- Spread: CS Independiente Rivadavia (-2.5)Deportivo La Guaira FC won
- Spread: Deportivo La Guaira FC (-1.5)CS Independiente Rivadavia won
- Spread: Deportivo La Guaira FC (-2.5)CS Independiente Rivadavia won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.