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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Thunder (-19.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Bullsof Thunder, Bulls
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$809,499
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$812,279

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $809,499 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 306 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x37c1…c53abacked Bulls52c209,251$108,331 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100,920.321,91549.3%944 W · 971 L+19.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8f03…64d6backed Bulls51c154,000$78,540 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$75,459.841,04651.1%534 W · 512 L-0.7wins0.00per pick51cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8a6c…0b3fbacked Thunder48c104,576$50,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50,00036549.6%181 W · 184 L-1.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid-3%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x08c5…43edbacked Thunder48c68,091$32,659 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32,659.4344352.4%232 W · 211 L+10.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb6ae…4df8backed Thunder48c66,406$31,875 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31,874.871,04447.5%496 W · 548 L-12.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb12d…f73cbacked Bulls52c55,430$29,015 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26,414.899655.2%53 W · 43 L+4.3wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+15.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa8e0…ad50backed Bulls53c40,000$21,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,80043148.7%210 W · 221 L-5.4wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Thunder48c28,526$13,680 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,679.874,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3ebf…3b02backed Bulls52c28,000$14,560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,4401040%4 W · 6 L-0.6wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-31.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xacae…6798backed Thunder48c20,600$9,888 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,88811241.1%46 W · 66 L-5.2wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-7.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xbb15…0f02backed Thunder49c20,408$10,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,00016640.4%67 W · 99 L-14.6wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-18.7%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Thunder47c16,901$7,981 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,981.412,50748.6%1,219 W · 1,288 L+19.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Thunder49c15,950$7,778 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,777.784,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Thunder47c12,548$5,945 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,944.64,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0c84…a8edbacked Thunder49c11,996$5,878 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,878.1734854%188 W · 160 L+15.4wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6d11…c449backed Thunder47c10,843$5,150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,150.089440.4%38 W · 56 L-5.3wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-12.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbfb8…5596backed Thunder49c10,612$5,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,200714.3%1 W · 6 L-2.5wins-0.35per pick50cpaid-72%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x558f…1a56backed Thunder48c10,440$5,011 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,011.2810860.2%65 W · 43 L+8.6wins+0.08per pick52cpaid+109.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Bulls52c10,187$5,282 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,904.941,90854.5%1,040 W · 868 L+53.7wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x92d8…0924backed Thunder47c10,000$4,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,70024045.4%109 W · 131 L+4.3wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf059…6dd9backed Thunder49c9,722$4,764 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,76449246.3%228 W · 264 L-15.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Thunder48c9,064$4,332 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,332.096,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbb6f…2653backed Thunder49c8,163$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,00016249.4%80 W · 82 L-0.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3824…5f15backed Thunder49c8,163$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,0001040%4 W · 6 L-1.0wins-0.10per pick50cpaid-20.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed Bulls52c8,000$4,160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,84058449.7%290 W · 294 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Thunder51c7,983$4,071 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,071.331,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x144e…eca0backed Thunder49c7,551$3,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,7007451.4%38 W · 36 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x18d4…cef1backed Thunder50c7,359$3,680 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,679.5366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+32%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Bulls52c6,976$3,628 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,348.482,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe0a2…40d5backed Thunder49c6,735$3,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,30021943.4%95 W · 124 L-12.7wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-11.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x59e7…0e90backed Thunder50c6,635$3,318 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,317.5366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+32%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xacab…b678backed Bulls50c6,455$3,228 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,227.53100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+98.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Thunder46c6,130$2,828 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,828.258,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x47a6…69e0backed Thunder47c6,000$2,820 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,82038750.4%195 W · 192 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5fdb…7976backed Thunder50c5,994$2,997 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,997366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.17per pick50cpaid+33.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb18c…f71ebacked Bulls50c5,838$2,919 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,9193100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+98.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc2bc…ecb0backed Thunder50c5,789$2,895 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,894.5366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+32%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8b06…6c5cbacked Bulls50c5,696$2,848 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,8483100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+96.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x23f0…19cbbacked Thunder49c5,514$2,702 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,70210%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6a32…0086backed Bulls52c5,415$2,816 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,599.261,33251.2%682 W · 650 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0f6e…84b4backed Thunder47c5,386$2,531 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,531.425349.1%26 W · 27 L-0.2wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd9d2…fe21backed Thunder50c5,361$2,681 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,680.5366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick51cpaid+29.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x76e0…a0ccbacked Thunder49c5,276$2,585 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,585.361040%4 W · 6 L-0.9wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-14.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8c52…f629backed Bulls50c5,222$2,611 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,6113100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbc37…2f65backed Thunder47c4,670$2,195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,194.941649.8%207 W · 209 L+1.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdd29…c0e2backed Bulls50c4,621$2,311 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,310.53100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+98.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x443b…e8bbbacked Thunder49c4,610$2,259 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,25913750.4%69 W · 68 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x45b3…2d03backed Thunder50c4,591$2,296 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,295.5366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+31.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x833f…0881backed Bulls50c4,367$2,184 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,183.53100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+98.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x1aa2…30ccbacked Bulls51c4,292$2,178 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,114.2138946%179 W · 210 L-13.6wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-7.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1bec…4569backed Bulls52c4,200$2,184 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,016728.6%2 W · 5 L-1.5wins-0.21per pick49cpaid-43.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Thunder47c4,041$1,905 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,904.663,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x033d…fd1ebacked Bulls52c4,000$2,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,92010252%53 W · 49 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-6.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x00d5…ed84backed Bulls50c4,000$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,00017050%85 W · 85 L+3.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x202e…35abbacked Bulls50c3,903$1,952 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,951.54100%4 W · 0 L+2.0wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+97.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xd04d…bfc2backed Thunder47c3,791$1,801 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,800.522,43549.8%1,212 W · 1,223 L+30.3wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x22b5…b3c4backed Thunder50c3,739$1,870 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,869.5333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.17per pick50cpaid-34.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfaf3…d778backed Thunder50c3,401$1,701 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,700.5366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+32%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa1f3…d99cbacked Thunder49c3,319$1,626 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,626.1548546.4%225 W · 260 L-14.6wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf760…73d7backed Bulls50c3,000$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,5001100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3016…f98fbacked Bulls50c3,000$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,5001100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7b47…d615backed Bulls51c3,000$1,530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,469.9857950.1%290 W · 289 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcf96…5156backed Thunder49c2,970$1,455 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,455.51442.9%6 W · 8 L-0.9wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-14.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe3f8…702fbacked Bulls50c2,967$1,484 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,483.52100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7438…b102backed Bulls52c2,885$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,384.622055%11 W · 9 L+0.9wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+7.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4099…a6a3backed Thunder50c2,871$1,436 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,435.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xae6c…58c4backed Bulls50c2,855$1,428 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,427.52100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x69f3…c7fabacked Bulls50c2,825$1,413 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,412.5250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x26f7…ecccbacked Thunder49c2,757$1,351 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,351250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6a0…dd9dbacked Bulls50c2,691$1,346 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,345.5250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x001a…1fb9backed Thunder49c2,606$1,277 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,276.9431643.4%137 W · 179 L-18.0wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-12%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9b8c…403bbacked Bulls50c2,589$1,295 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,294.5250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0f74…cf09backed Thunder50c2,559$1,284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,283.5210%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe48f…2260backed Bulls50c2,558$1,279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,279366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.17per pick50cpaid+33.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Bulls51c2,553$1,314 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,238.832,34648.7%1,142 W · 1,204 L-14.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1e38…06e5backed Thunder50c2,503$1,252 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,251.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4761…405ebacked Thunder50c2,451$1,226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,225.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xedbd…a551backed Bulls50c2,433$1,217 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,216.5475%3 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.25per pick50cpaid+49%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcd64…4d56backed Thunder50c2,429$1,215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,214.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x51fd…2d5ebacked Bulls50c2,417$1,209 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,208.5540%2 W · 3 L-0.5wins-0.10per pick50cpaid-20.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2c83…534abacked Bulls50c2,357$1,179 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,178.5475%3 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.25per pick50cpaid+50%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xbc79…99d5backed Thunder50c2,335$1,168 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,167.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0631…2841backed Thunder50c2,330$1,165 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,16510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0277…4bbbbacked Thunder50c2,271$1,136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,135.510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfbf3…b218backed Thunder47c2,242$1,054 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,053.6929245.5%133 W · 159 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x94b2…69adbacked Bulls50c2,208$1,104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1042100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x975b…3760backed Thunder47c2,200$1,034 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0345547.3%26 W · 29 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x4be4…23a8backed Bulls50c2,191$1,096 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,095.5475%3 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.25per pick50cpaid+50%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8ddb…d047backed Thunder50c2,162$1,081 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,08110%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0d13…92f3backed Thunder48c2,133$1,024 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,02470246.4%326 W · 376 L-20.4wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfb9e…c9acbacked Thunder51c2,131$1,087 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,087.4710%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfe78…3cf0backed Bulls50c2,067$1,034 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,033.52100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe550…2c8bbacked Bulls51c2,017$1,025 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$991.9835749.6%177 W · 180 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb552…94a8backed Bulls52c2,000$1,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9602,07853.6%1,113 W · 965 L+44.6wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf284…867bbacked Bulls50c1,902$951 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9513100%3 W · 0 L+1.5wins+0.50per pick50cpaid+100%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8883…767ebacked Bulls50c1,862$931 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$931450%2 W · 2 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4afb…109cbacked Bulls50c1,834$917 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$917250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x56ad…14cdbacked Bulls50c1,786$893 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$893250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Thunder49c1,774$874 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$873.872,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4930…d2efbacked Thunder50c1,772$886 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$886333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.16per pick50cpaid-33.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 17 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.