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Lol · resolved market

LoL: DN SOOPers vs T1 - Game 1 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
T1of DN SOOPers, T1
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$644,076
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$812,670

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $644,076 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 347 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x777d…5143backed DN SOOPers30c112,230$33,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33,300.211060%6 W · 4 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick58cpaid-7.2%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xee00…cea1backed T171c50,290$35,782 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,507.6211650%58 W · 58 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+15.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc44f…d49fbacked T171c29,604$20,922 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,681.9957246%263 W · 309 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7bd8…a879backed DN SOOPers1c29,510$271 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$270.8321028.1%59 W · 151 L-10.1wins-0.05per pick33cpaid-24.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc690…42b8backed T179c27,101$21,315 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,785.914259.5%25 W · 17 L-5.0wins-0.12per pick71cpaid-18.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xd20f…2f35backed T180c22,128$17,621 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,506.769456.4%53 W · 41 L+2.8wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf5df…a6b6backed T172c20,419$14,721 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,698.144465.9%29 W · 15 L+1.7wins+0.04per pick62cpaid+8.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x410d…d831backed DN SOOPers26c20,137$5,232 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,232.0422624.8%56 W · 170 L-15.6wins-0.07per pick32cpaid-14.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe015…6ffdbacked DN SOOPers24c16,887$4,030 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,030.1496048.8%468 W · 492 L+13.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked T175c13,059$9,794 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,264.7370162.2%436 W · 265 L-37.3wins-0.05per pick68cpaid-8.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb03f…9429backed DN SOOPers2c10,479$259 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$258.5814324.5%35 W · 108 L-8.3wins-0.06per pick30cpaid-36.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xda3a…381fbacked DN SOOPers6c10,000$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6001,48550.1%744 W · 741 L+67.0wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+5.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1196…fe97backed DN SOOPers21c8,925$1,854 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,854.4423020%46 W · 184 L-17.8wins-0.08per pick28cpaid-36.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1461…30a1backed DN SOOPers5c8,000$430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43020438.2%78 W · 126 L-6.1wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-10.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xafd4…7e61backed T170c7,664$5,327 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,336.781,20054.1%649 W · 551 L+28.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked DN SOOPers15c6,925$1,019 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0192,40642.6%1,026 W · 1,380 L+21.5wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x82f9…6910backed T180c6,393$5,111 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,282.737374%54 W · 19 L+4.6wins+0.06per pick68cpaid+11.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x7553…65cabacked DN SOOPers27c5,309$1,433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,433.4367250.9%342 W · 330 L+6.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe80e…a4c5backed DN SOOPers13c4,675$585 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$585.1318442.4%78 W · 106 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-25.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x25a9…7076backed T172c4,640$3,329 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,311.1816844.6%75 W · 93 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc75a…1ab2backed DN SOOPers1c4,610$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.287869.8%77 W · 709 L+22.8wins+0.03per pick7cpaid+41.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb8cb…8f46backed DN SOOPers14c4,481$647 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$646.5648440.5%196 W · 288 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x12bc…bf2fbacked DN SOOPers26c4,399$1,124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,123.8836040.6%146 W · 214 L-10.1wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-20.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe308…25cdbacked DN SOOPers31c4,089$1,273 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,272.7466437.2%247 W · 417 L-12.8wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x000e…f7e9backed DN SOOPers25c3,958$978 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$978.389943.4%390 W · 509 L+22.3wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8e8c…65ddbacked DN SOOPers27c3,640$983 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$982.8570456.4%397 W · 307 L+39.3wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+11.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked DN SOOPers17c3,370$572 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$572.281,59842.4%677 W · 921 L-17.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd100…853dbacked DN SOOPers30c3,351$1,006 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,006.114040%16 W · 24 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-22.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6204…0b06backed DN SOOPers30c3,193$958 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95832440.4%131 W · 193 L+11.9wins+0.04per pick37cpaid+6.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3833…33d1backed DN SOOPers29c3,044$883 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$882.8864155.7%357 W · 284 L+27.8wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+12.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked T170c2,804$1,964 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$839.442,82541.4%1,169 W · 1,656 L-14.1wins0.00per pick42cpaid-4.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x2924…0f31backed DN SOOPers10c2,738$264 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$263.9269539.1%272 W · 423 L-36.4wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-29.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7a0f…1305backed T171c2,690$1,923 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$767.091,46361.4%899 W · 564 L-19.5wins-0.01per pick63cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9348…8cfbbacked DN SOOPers28c2,670$739 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$738.7716352.1%85 W · 78 L+4.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7689…af2abacked DN SOOPers11c2,375$262 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$262.317535.4%62 W · 113 L+3.4wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+7.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe167…03a1backed DN SOOPers21c2,330$494 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$493.8785652.2%447 W · 409 L+34.8wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+4.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe02f…3d4cbacked DN SOOPers4c2,231$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.9410652.8%56 W · 50 L-7.2wins-0.07per pick60cpaid-13.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd408…e85cbacked T177c2,072$1,596 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$476.6338462%238 W · 146 L-0.4wins0.00per pick62cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed T170c2,000$1,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60071249.2%350 W · 362 L+14.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed T169c2,000$1,380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62082352.7%434 W · 389 L+41.8wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+15.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x0c15…2a2dbacked T171c2,000$1,414 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$585.5512458.1%72 W · 52 L+2.1wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x77cf…beb6backed T171c2,000$1,420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$579.99757.1%4 W · 3 L-0.6wins-0.08per pick66cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x183f…85e3backed DN SOOPers28c1,992$558 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$557.771,09153.8%587 W · 504 L+38.0wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1b4d…e246backed DN SOOPers30c1,984$595 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$595.119534.7%33 W · 62 L-6.8wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-16.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xcdca…66ebbacked T171c1,980$1,406 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$574.296057.4%551 W · 409 L+22.3wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+4.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed DN SOOPers27c1,919$518 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$518.251,30555.9%729 W · 576 L+44.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+7.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8796…e255backed T169c1,868$1,289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$579.064650%23 W · 23 L-0.9wins-0.02per pick52cpaid+6.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbb35…b62abacked T171c1,799$1,276 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$522.8726549.1%130 W · 135 L+21.5wins+0.08per pick41cpaid+21.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0254…34b3backed T177c1,789$1,382 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$407.174170.7%29 W · 12 L+1.6wins+0.04per pick67cpaid+8.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked T172c1,770$1,274 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$495.532,00458.2%1,166 W · 838 L+86.9wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xdbb3…76a9backed T176c1,705$1,303 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$401.7439246.4%182 W · 210 L+1.5wins0.00per pick46cpaid-10%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked T169c1,650$1,139 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$511.587844.2%388 W · 490 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3cf5…8483backed T172c1,629$1,173 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$456.2417961.5%110 W · 69 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked DN SOOPers21c1,505$321 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$320.5895041.6%395 W · 555 L-32.0wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-23.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4431…f851backed DN SOOPers8c1,500$117 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$117.512035.8%43 W · 77 L-9.1wins-0.08per pick43cpaid-21.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x8ced…0feebacked DN SOOPers32c1,447$464 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$464.2876955%423 W · 346 L-13.9wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd7cf…a603backed T173c1,437$1,049 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.074864.6%31 W · 17 L+0.1wins0.00per pick64cpaid-4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2775…3652backed DN SOOPers14c1,420$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.8676639.6%303 W · 463 L-5.1wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed DN SOOPers28c1,408$389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$389.073,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x80ba…2e78backed DN SOOPers25c1,330$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$332.647533.3%158 W · 317 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick31cpaid+15.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked T178c1,297$1,008 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$288.581,67157.9%968 W · 703 L+70.6wins+0.04per pick54cpaid-0.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed T172c1,277$920 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$357.533,13133.8%1,058 W · 2,073 L-150.7wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-34.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x0593…4892backed DN SOOPers20c1,170$229 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$229.3810028%28 W · 72 L-5.8wins-0.06per pick34cpaid-20.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe235…aba2backed DN SOOPers32c1,169$374 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$373.9757947.3%274 W · 305 L-14.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-8.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xbc6f…f0f0backed T169c1,168$806 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$361.9929846.6%139 W · 159 L-19.7wins-0.07per pick53cpaid-18.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x4283…fbd4backed DN SOOPers28c1,110$313 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$313.245041.1%185 W · 265 L-25.4wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-18.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcdf3…1bb5backed DN SOOPers26c1,084$282 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$281.8240232.8%132 W · 270 L-21.3wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7549…9745backed DN SOOPers5c1,063$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.5910%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.05per pick5cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x24ac…f6b4backed DN SOOPers24c1,007$245 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$245.2734631.2%108 W · 238 L-10.2wins-0.03per pick34cpaid-11.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3081…c666backed DN SOOPers10c1,000$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1005139.2%20 W · 31 L-4.3wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xe903…6adbbacked T170c999.99$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30014060%84 W · 56 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick61cpaid-5.9%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xa5c3…1f5fbacked T172c999.98$720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$279.9979653.1%423 W · 373 L-17.3wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x11ce…b5a0backed DN SOOPers11c999.97$106 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$105.998624.4%21 W · 65 L+2.6wins+0.03per pick21cpaid+7.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6e32…ab65backed DN SOOPers26c996.32$259 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$259.042,15653.2%1,148 W · 1,008 L+57.4wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xeb37…1708backed DN SOOPers11c977.02$107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.474951%25 W · 24 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-7.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1b5e…83f8backed DN SOOPers26c955.59$248 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$248.2612850%64 W · 64 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xacf6…41fcbacked DN SOOPers21c952.6$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200.0550242.2%212 W · 290 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked T173c948.36$694 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$254.631,09252.4%572 W · 520 L+6.2wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked DN SOOPers12c852.48$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.314136.9%52 W · 89 L-6.6wins-0.05per pick42cpaid+2.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8c79…8fffbacked DN SOOPers1c850$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1016143.5%70 W · 91 L+5.2wins+0.03per pick40cpaid-12.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed DN SOOPers27c849.18$229 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$229.281,25838.6%485 W · 773 L-61.8wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-20.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x0fd5…9801backed T169c843.51$582 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$261.491080%8 W · 2 L+2.7wins+0.27per pick53cpaid+49.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed DN SOOPers14c835.38$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.7485442.7%365 W · 489 L-14.3wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x539e…5968backed DN SOOPers30c798.33$240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$239.52934.5%10 W · 19 L-1.2wins-0.04per pick39cpaid+41.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed T170c792.72$555 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$237.821,43557.4%824 W · 611 L+36.0wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe843…0699backed DN SOOPers19c781.99$149 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$148.5815632.7%51 W · 105 L+5.4wins+0.03per pick29cpaid+19.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xab90…a576backed T175c750$563 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$187.52123.8%5 W · 16 L-2.8wins-0.13per pick37cpaid-55.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x07fa…f5cdbacked DN SOOPers19c750$142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$142.517339.3%68 W · 105 L+6.9wins+0.04per pick35cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked T171c745.2$526 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$219.221,00342.5%426 W · 577 L-24.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-19.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xb891…969bbacked DN SOOPers11c706.01$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80.031,44713.3%192 W · 1,255 L-109.5wins-0.08per pick21cpaid-35.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x823f…6ca3backed DN SOOPers18c655.32$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.58333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.06per pick40cpaid-45.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe9a9…3ba9backed T172c650$468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18233845.3%153 W · 185 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xaee7…1e5bbacked DN SOOPers26c641.95$164 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$163.7129536.9%109 W · 186 L-10.7wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-12.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5dcf…75b9backed T179c627.03$494 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$133.42166.7%14 W · 7 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick68cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed DN SOOPers26c599.98$156 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$155.9996250.1%482 W · 480 L+1.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x96ef…cca4backed DN SOOPers5c570.39$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.5237548%180 W · 195 L+6.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbca8…cf14backed DN SOOPers30c565.22$170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$169.571,00354%542 W · 461 L+15.4wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a5e…8fd0backed T174c555.64$411 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.4753753.6%288 W · 249 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed DN SOOPers9c550$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$511,5173.3%50 W · 1,467 L-53.9wins-0.04per pick7cpaid-74.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x45c5…558dbacked T176c542.22$415 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.62958.6%17 W · 12 L-3.9wins-0.13per pick72cpaid-22.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 9 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.