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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Team Liquid vs Team Spirit (BO3) - FISSURE Universe Episode 8 Playoffs

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Spiritof Team Liquid, Team Spirit
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$72,253
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$82,815

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $72,253 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 148 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf9b5…09eebacked Team Spirit49c8,530$4,206 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,324.5355157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb3dd…a7e0backed Team Spirit65c7,697$5,003 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,693.8313155%72 W · 59 L+2.1wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xb077…8fe8backed Team Liquid50c4,324$2,173 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,172.7519148.7%93 W · 98 L-5.6wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-4.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked Team Liquid17c3,683$611 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$610.6785851.3%440 W · 418 L+30.8wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Team Liquid42c3,076$1,284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,283.71,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Team Spirit49c2,895$1,428 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,467.2373841.7%308 W · 430 L-5.2wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked Team Liquid54c2,794$1,512 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,511.5699844.4%443 W · 555 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Team Liquid51c2,564$1,297 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,296.841,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfaf1…795fbacked Team Liquid35c2,083$726 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$725.637357.5%42 W · 31 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x74a8…df59backed Team Liquid35c2,079$728 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$727.574148.8%20 W · 21 L+0.1wins0.00per pick49cpaid+5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe42b…7ea9backed Team Liquid34c2,000$674 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$673.9346535.1%163 W · 302 L+22.9wins+0.05per pick30cpaid+18.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf2a3…9a3bbacked Team Liquid41c1,744$706 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$706.4742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.8wins-0.11per pick54cpaid-27.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0dcf…c556backed Team Liquid57c1,741$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00033746.3%156 W · 181 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed Team Liquid50c1,500$747 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$747.4566662.2%414 W · 252 L+60.2wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed Team Spirit57c1,472$837 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$634.8947660.7%289 W · 187 L-0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked Team Liquid45c1,138$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$510.41,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd5a1…0544backed Team Liquid35c1,111$389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$388.855244.2%23 W · 29 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-12.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xa824…c9fcbacked Team Spirit75c1,072$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272.3918053.3%96 W · 84 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed Team Liquid47c1,056$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50058744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x34cd…9675backed Team Spirit57c999.99$566 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$433.998648.8%42 W · 44 L-4.2wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-13.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x033e…1bb9backed Team Liquid50c907$454 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$453.556848.8%277 W · 291 L-1.1wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0f02…1395backed Team Spirit67c901$604 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$297.33666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.9wins+0.14per pick52cpaid+21.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed Team Liquid14c896.99$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.2477941.1%320 W · 459 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3704…0e84backed Team Liquid35c857.14$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3003551.4%18 W · 17 L-1.1wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-8.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xce1f…7392backed Team Spirit52c838.91$440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$399.0967853.5%363 W · 315 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xad69…7397backed Team Liquid31c748.75$231 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$231.0451140.3%206 W · 305 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x30db…07c3backed Team Spirit49c714.94$353 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$361.7254445.8%249 W · 295 L-10.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed Team Liquid33c599.99$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19833541.2%138 W · 197 L-5.9wins-0.02per pick43cpaid+0.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Team Liquid37c572.53$209 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209.382,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xacf6…41fcbacked Team Spirit39c512.82$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$312.8260646.9%284 W · 322 L+10.5wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Team Spirit64c505.64$324 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$182.033748.6%18 W · 19 L-0.2wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xef21…3dc9backed Team Liquid35c448.94$157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$157.133333.3%11 W · 22 L-3.1wins-0.09per pick43cpaid-13.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xeea6…135fbacked Team Spirit67c432.4$290 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$142.696142.6%26 W · 35 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-9.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xccf5…42f2backed Team Spirit54c412.82$222 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$190.3657455.4%318 W · 256 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8ade…e692backed Team Spirit67c407.27$271 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$136.33441.2%14 W · 20 L-4.4wins-0.13per pick54cpaid-27.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7820…0b73backed Team Liquid37c386.94$143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1438957.3%51 W · 38 L0.0wins0.00per pick57cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3763…345fbacked Team Spirit66c377.18$249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$128.2442145.4%191 W · 230 L-11.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfc8f…3782backed Team Liquid35c364.97$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.1614142.6%60 W · 81 L+4.9wins+0.04per pick39cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4946…e041backed Team Liquid53c352.86$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.7255561.8%343 W · 212 L+4.6wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7abc…9ff7backed Team Spirit58c350$203 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1472020%4 W · 16 L-5.5wins-0.27per pick47cpaid-62.5%equal weight36-0.12 edge/pick
0x9f7b…0cc9backed Team Spirit58c347.06$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$147.067944.3%35 W · 44 L-8.8wins-0.11per pick55cpaid-20.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x41a3…017dbacked Team Spirit67c342.62$229 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.56250%31 W · 31 L-5.7wins-0.09per pick59cpaid-23.6%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xde53…e5bebacked Team Liquid36c341$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.7625348.6%123 W · 130 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfadf…dda0backed Team Liquid59c337.17$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20029245.9%134 W · 158 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-1.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7d07…0351backed Team Liquid35c313.11$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109.24922.2%2 W · 7 L-0.8wins-0.09per pick31cpaid-68.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Team Liquid14c300.93$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.131,90147.6%905 W · 996 L+4.6wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x936f…7f75backed Team Spirit49c300$147 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153.55350.9%27 W · 26 L-2.6wins-0.05per pick56cpaid-12.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1197…8311backed Team Spirit56c294.57$166 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$128.5612661.1%77 W · 49 L+4.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+2.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7843…eb6cbacked Team Spirit52c280.77$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$134.77966.7%6 W · 3 L+1.0wins+0.11per pick56cpaid+13.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x90a7…9e54backed Team Liquid53c277.36$147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1471637.5%6 W · 10 L-2.0wins-0.13per pick50cpaid-29.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2d65…e506backed Team Spirit50c260$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$130450%2 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-8.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb569…6fe0backed Team Liquid42c259.98$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109.1927548%132 W · 143 L-1.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x469f…3d4fbacked Team Spirit39c256.41$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$156.4123546.8%110 W · 125 L+10.7wins+0.05per pick42cpaid0%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x249f…fed3backed Team Liquid40c251.82$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10062650.5%316 W · 310 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc954…642fbacked Team Liquid34c249.98$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.0616155.3%89 W · 72 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf971…0a57backed Team Liquid34c220.52$74 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$74.426033.3%20 W · 40 L-2.6wins-0.04per pick38cpaid-24.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf938…1249backed Team Spirit52c206.76$107 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.3717360.7%105 W · 68 L-13.6wins-0.08per pick69cpaid-13.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x40ba…7ea5backed Team Spirit59c205$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.653757.7%310 W · 227 L+11.8wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x824d…1271backed Team Liquid28c204.99$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.0524026.7%64 W · 176 L-30.5wins-0.13per pick39cpaid-42.9%equal weight37-0.11 edge/pick
0x88b5…539abacked Team Liquid49c204.9$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1002751.9%14 W · 13 L-1.2wins-0.05per pick56cpaid+0.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xfff2…3f58backed Team Spirit49c200$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1022227.3%6 W · 16 L-0.9wins-0.04per pick31cpaid+13.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1709…c148backed Team Spirit51c196.7$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96.148352.4%253 W · 230 L-2.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xde4b…3b7dbacked Team Spirit59c181.29$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$73.718952.9%100 W · 89 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-4.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb15f…7deebacked Team Liquid35c172.91$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.525552.7%29 W · 26 L-2.6wins-0.05per pick58cpaid-9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2f2e…44c3backed Team Liquid33c170$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.11136.4%4 W · 7 L+0.6wins+0.05per pick31cpaid+9.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe3f2…d8b1backed Team Spirit57c169.37$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72.28366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.7wins+0.22per pick45cpaid+11.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Team Liquid24c164.67$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.632,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x61d9…e0cebacked Team Liquid12c162.83$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.586150.8%31 W · 30 L+7.2wins+0.12per pick39cpaid+9.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xed8e…e61bbacked Team Spirit63c158.73$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.732055%11 W · 9 L-1.9wins-0.10per pick65cpaid-15.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd8b6…c7dbbacked Team Liquid49c153.81$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$754535.6%16 W · 29 L-4.9wins-0.11per pick47cpaid-25.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x3a95…343bbacked Team Liquid20c151.22$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.2469835.2%246 W · 452 L+15.7wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6698…e620backed Team Spirit58c150.2$87 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.982556%14 W · 11 L+1.9wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+9.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5a1e…c2eabacked Team Liquid52c149.99$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$784540%18 W · 27 L-4.9wins-0.11per pick51cpaid-25.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xb28a…6d4abacked Team Liquid14c149.99$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.51323.1%3 W · 10 L+0.6wins+0.04per pick19cpaid-15.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd690…40e5backed Team Spirit66c149.23$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.991764.7%11 W · 6 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick62cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbda6…6ae0backed Team Liquid37c149.06$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5536051.9%187 W · 173 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0a4f…5459backed Team Spirit52c144.23$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$69.2311051.8%57 W · 53 L-3.9wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-8.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8d11…0c08backed Team Spirit54c138.89$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.891464.3%9 W · 5 L+1.4wins+0.10per pick54cpaid+17.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5fd8…a5bebacked Team Spirit44c134.16$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74.7720339.9%81 W · 122 L-0.5wins0.00per pick40cpaid-6.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x02a4…6854backed Team Spirit49c129.98$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.061,79755.8%1,003 W · 794 L+37.5wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9147…baccbacked Team Liquid35c128.57$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$456043.3%26 W · 34 L-2.7wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-11.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x755a…6da6backed Team Spirit39c128.21$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.2118444.6%82 W · 102 L+12.2wins+0.07per pick38cpaid+25.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5d9e…e0e3backed Team Spirit51c126.54$65 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.713733.6%46 W · 91 L-8.1wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-34.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7447…91ecbacked Team Liquid38c120.63$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$466055%33 W · 27 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x40d7…615fbacked Team Liquid40c118$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.21533.3%5 W · 10 L-2.3wins-0.15per pick48cpaid-40.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xdbc8…d266backed Team Spirit51c111.67$57 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$555844.8%26 W · 32 L-7.6wins-0.13per pick58cpaid-22.8%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xe63b…b7c9backed Team Liquid35c110.51$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.681833.3%6 W · 12 L-0.5wins-0.03per pick36cpaid+0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf680…2c59backed Team Liquid46c107.81$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5020%0 W · 2 L-0.6wins-0.31per pick31cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xb4cb…63bebacked Team Spirit40c100$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6012455.6%69 W · 55 L+5.0wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+4.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xfaa4…71c5backed Team Spirit50c100$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$506245.2%28 W · 34 L+2.8wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+10.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x72c2…5e74backed Team Spirit37c100$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6379343.6%346 W · 447 L+38.4wins+0.05per pick39cpaid-0.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe50b…c2a8backed Team Liquid33c99.99$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3314547.6%69 W · 76 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7aca…b6dcbacked Team Liquid50c98.32$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.16333.3%1 W · 2 L0.0wins+0.01per pick32cpaid+45.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1fab…b213backed Team Spirit47c96.37$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.762100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+97.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xdcaf…8229backed Team Spirit52c96.35$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.3533743.6%147 W · 190 L-5.6wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x57d5…0bbdbacked Team Liquid10c95.46$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1053139.5%210 W · 321 L-37.2wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-29.6%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xbf69…4fa2backed Team Liquid18c92.37$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.3353634%182 W · 354 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6fe9…9c50backed Team Spirit66c90.91$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.9113657.4%78 W · 58 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd6…ab3dbacked Team Liquid31c87.8$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.2212843.8%56 W · 72 L+2.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+6.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x850a…e5dbbacked Team Spirit58c86.21$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.218061.3%49 W · 31 L-4.9wins-0.06per pick67cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.