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Tennis · resolved market

Murcia: Pablo Carreno Busta vs Kimmer Coppejans

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Pablo Carreno Bustaof Pablo Carreno Busta, Kimmer Coppejans
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Tennisevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$86,796

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $86,796 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

All 95 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Tennis is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Tennis
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xd6a3…9489backed Kimmer Coppejans11c6,208$652 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$652.482,74630.8%846 W · 1,900 L-67.1wins-0.02per pick33cpaid-36.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked Pablo Carreno Busta75c4,774$3,572 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,202.2165558.9%386 W · 269 L-32.1wins-0.05per pick64cpaid-11.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xaf0e…fd24backed Pablo Carreno Busta77c3,888$2,993 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$894.222552%13 W · 12 L-1.7wins-0.07per pick59cpaid-14.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4ffe…9f71backed Kimmer Coppejans0c3,833$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.752,3317.9%183 W · 2,148 L-56.9wins-0.02per pick10cpaid-60.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Kimmer Coppejans19c2,338$453 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$453.348,21745.5%3,737 W · 4,480 L+166.6wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-16.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Kimmer Coppejans23c2,150$505 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$504.943,07244.9%1,378 W · 1,694 L-30.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-23%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Kimmer Coppejans25c1,370$349 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$348.661,80943.8%793 W · 1,016 L-2.2wins0.00per pick44cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8bc2…4c80backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c1,325$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$325.3546473.3%340 W · 124 L+27.0wins+0.06per pick67cpaid+7.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x1d94…9100backed Kimmer Coppejans24c1,284$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311.931,26529.2%370 W · 895 L-13.3wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x046c…2a9cbacked Pablo Carreno Busta76c1,275$969 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$306.1135247.2%166 W · 186 L-23.2wins-0.07per pick54cpaid-16.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Kimmer Coppejans18c1,202$218 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$217.742,86544.3%1,269 W · 1,596 L+6.0wins0.00per pick44cpaid-20.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x85d5…bbf0backed Kimmer Coppejans25c1,156$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$289.7230530.8%94 W · 211 L-9.5wins-0.03per pick34cpaid-13.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6d6f…7135backed Pablo Carreno Busta76c1,151$880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$271.2115457.1%88 W · 66 L+5.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+12.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xddd3…dba6backed Kimmer Coppejans25c1,100$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$275.018343.4%36 W · 47 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Kimmer Coppejans19c1,009$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$187.817,01843.2%3,031 W · 3,987 L+124.9wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-9.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Kimmer Coppejans15c931.1$143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$143.142,06834.9%721 W · 1,347 L-44.2wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-25.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa23c…ae92backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c740$555 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18517959.8%107 W · 72 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick59cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x622b…5a4abacked Kimmer Coppejans27c689.71$185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$184.8635040.9%143 W · 207 L+0.2wins0.00per pick41cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x734a…e083backed Kimmer Coppejans26c676$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$175.76250%1 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.20per pick30cpaid+47.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x8fef…5946backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c675.68$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$175.689761.9%60 W · 37 L+3.3wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+19.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3697…e574backed Pablo Carreno Busta76c620$471 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$148.87252.8%38 W · 34 L-3.0wins-0.04per pick57cpaid-9.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3bfa…fbd7backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c618$457 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$160.682100%2 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.27per pick74cpaid+36.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Kimmer Coppejans22c577.36$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$127.026,72036.9%2,479 W · 4,241 L-95.8wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-20.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x200f…7a96backed Kimmer Coppejans26c574.66$148 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$148.297,13949.7%3,548 W · 3,591 L+109.9wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa6be…b977backed Kimmer Coppejans27c563.01$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$150.011,76843.2%764 W · 1,004 L+2.9wins0.00per pick43cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x94bb…77eebacked Kimmer Coppejans9c555.56$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5081933.1%271 W · 548 L-30.1wins-0.04per pick37cpaid-21.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf760…1334backed Kimmer Coppejans25c540$135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1351850%9 W · 9 L+1.3wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+10.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Kimmer Coppejans24c521$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125.047,72447.8%3,691 W · 4,033 L+41.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x87c7…cfdbbacked Kimmer Coppejans27c509.18$135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$135.32520%1 W · 4 L-0.9wins-0.18per pick38cpaid-13%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Kimmer Coppejans24c500$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1204,07639.7%1,620 W · 2,456 L+93.7wins+0.02per pick37cpaid+7.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8b64…a351backed Pablo Carreno Busta76c489.17$372 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$117.1735268.2%240 W · 112 L-0.5wins0.00per pick68cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9694…b7adbacked Pablo Carreno Busta74c345.31$256 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.782,05859.5%1,225 W · 833 L-1.0wins0.00per pick60cpaid-0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7b7f…e826backed Pablo Carreno Busta76c299.04$227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.7769350.5%350 W · 343 L-9.1wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-3.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7d3a…eb2fbacked Kimmer Coppejans9c292.16$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.192817.9%5 W · 23 L-2.2wins-0.08per pick26cpaid-25%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x84f7…ade1backed Kimmer Coppejans27c290$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.31,02833.6%345 W · 683 L-3.6wins0.00per pick34cpaid-5.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd37a…2358backed Pablo Carreno Busta73c266.59$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.331,97346.3%914 W · 1,059 L0.0wins0.00per pick46cpaid-2.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd88a…1eefbacked Kimmer Coppejans27c266$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.9154434.2%186 W · 358 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-2.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x87e8…5e6ebacked Pablo Carreno Busta76c264.47$201 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.4741955.8%234 W · 185 L-0.4wins0.00per pick56cpaid-0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec41…a762backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c261$193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67.86250%1 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.08per pick43cpaid-32.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfc89…2da8backed Kimmer Coppejans26c259$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.34333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.2wins+0.07per pick26cpaid-24.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc9ac…5ea3backed Kimmer Coppejans11c256.85$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.744030%12 W · 28 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick28cpaid-40.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe39f…82e8backed Kimmer Coppejans9c250$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22837.5%3 W · 5 L+0.7wins+0.09per pick29cpaid+28.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc4db…7e0cbacked Kimmer Coppejans22c250$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$553,87135%1,353 W · 2,518 L+92.5wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+8.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1e3b…e232backed Kimmer Coppejans25c250$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.63,90150.1%1,953 W · 1,948 L-13.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x25bf…7a56backed Pablo Carreno Busta77c209.22$161 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.372,33546.6%1,088 W · 1,247 L+55.3wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x012d…9db6backed Pablo Carreno Busta78c200.84$157 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.8484968.4%581 W · 268 L+25.9wins+0.03per pick65cpaid+1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd0e7…b14fbacked Kimmer Coppejans26c199$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.7920336%73 W · 130 L+4.3wins+0.02per pick34cpaid+14.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x150c…add3backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c189.19$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.1920670.4%145 W · 61 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick69cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc2fb…610cbacked Kimmer Coppejans27c185.19$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501822.2%4 W · 14 L-4.3wins-0.24per pick46cpaid-66.5%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c170.29$128 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.574,93441.5%2,048 W · 2,886 L-77.0wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-15.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1e72…d0b9backed Kimmer Coppejans22c161.09$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.570729.1%206 W · 501 L+0.8wins0.00per pick29cpaid-6.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4488…579cbacked Kimmer Coppejans26c156.74$41 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41.2855660.3%335 W · 221 L+13.6wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x152e…8285backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c155.41$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.411883.3%15 W · 3 L+1.9wins+0.10per pick73cpaid+13.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xa509…ae46backed Kimmer Coppejans13c139.6$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.566,78648.8%3,310 W · 3,476 L+56.2wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-15.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa1a9…e22ebacked Kimmer Coppejans25c137.62$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.551,28439.2%503 W · 781 L-12.2wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-3.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc0f3…f7dfbacked Pablo Carreno Busta75c133$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.2538268.1%260 W · 122 L+5.8wins+0.02per pick67cpaid+2.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xd038…8f51backed Kimmer Coppejans14c130.89$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.784,28840.5%1,737 W · 2,551 L-139.3wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-20.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed Kimmer Coppejans19c118.03$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.913,27013.8%450 W · 2,820 L-549.1wins-0.17per pick31cpaid-57.4%equal weight31-0.17 edge/pick
0x9cf7…e5a5backed Kimmer Coppejans26c111.54$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$291,26634.2%433 W · 833 L-43.2wins-0.03per pick38cpaid-9.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x64e8…7819backed Kimmer Coppejans25c108.14$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.41,88235.5%669 W · 1,213 L+26.8wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x94a5…4eb8backed Kimmer Coppejans27c100$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2724547.8%117 W · 128 L+4.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+8.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd68e…8048backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c100$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2541272.8%300 W · 112 L+8.0wins+0.02per pick71cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x216b…fe46backed Kimmer Coppejans27c100$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2730452%158 W · 146 L+9.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+8.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6196…1a64backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c94.59$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.5916957.4%97 W · 72 L-2.7wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-5.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x5628…abbcbacked Kimmer Coppejans27c82.96$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.42,22945%1,002 W · 1,227 L+3.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x96bc…d2b5backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c76.92$57 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.9441668%283 W · 133 L+23.6wins+0.06per pick62cpaid+8.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x00b0…2c50backed Kimmer Coppejans26c69.23$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1810%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.26per pick26cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x105d…e8debacked Pablo Carreno Busta74c67.57$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.573100%3 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.33per pick67cpaid+49.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x58f2…692ebacked Pablo Carreno Busta75c67$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.7553457.7%308 W · 226 L-0.9wins0.00per pick58cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x27f3…8382backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c66.67$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.6721847.2%103 W · 115 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6dd5…11bbbacked Pablo Carreno Busta75c66.43$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.4312142.1%51 W · 70 L-7.0wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-16.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb5b9…948abacked Pablo Carreno Busta74c64.87$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.8742358.6%248 W · 175 L-7.8wins-0.02per pick60cpaid-5.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x70ac…0c7dbacked Kimmer Coppejans26c60.81$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.812,53753.6%1,361 W · 1,176 L+61.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-5.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6c10…4e76backed Kimmer Coppejans26c59.23$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.433326.4%88 W · 245 L-14.1wins-0.04per pick31cpaid-17.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xb580…9b95backed Kimmer Coppejans23c56$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.626941.3%111 W · 158 L-9.0wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-23.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3578…f163backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c56$42 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1439872.4%288 W · 110 L+9.5wins+0.02per pick70cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbc41…7756backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c55$41 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.3250%1 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.15per pick65cpaid-32.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb6dc…ab58backed Kimmer Coppejans26c53$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.783836.8%14 W · 24 L-1.9wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-12.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x10fd…633bbacked Kimmer Coppejans27c50$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.56360.3%38 W · 25 L+3.4wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+6.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb5a3…ba5fbacked Kimmer Coppejans23c48.91$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.1633.3%2 W · 4 L+0.6wins+0.09per pick24cpaid+12.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xeb76…7ffebacked Kimmer Coppejans27c45$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.1596844.4%430 W · 538 L-1.9wins0.00per pick45cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3c42…41d9backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c40.54$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10.545650%28 W · 28 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-13.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x20ad…a7c6backed Kimmer Coppejans26c40.5$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.3836333.9%123 W · 240 L-12.3wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-17.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2a73…c2e5backed Pablo Carreno Busta73c37.84$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10.2230053.3%160 W · 140 L-12.4wins-0.04per pick57cpaid-7.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x06fc…9b16backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c33.78$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8.783860.5%23 W · 15 L-2.9wins-0.08per pick68cpaid-11.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x1951…7542backed Pablo Carreno Busta74c30$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.87566.7%50 W · 25 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick68cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x51eb…6bfabacked Pablo Carreno Busta74c27.03$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.032,56163%1,613 W · 948 L-10.2wins0.00per pick63cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2f71…9a06backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c26.67$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6.671662.5%10 W · 6 L-0.6wins-0.04per pick66cpaid+1.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe10f…c59fbacked Pablo Carreno Busta75c26.67$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6.6710474%77 W · 27 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick73cpaid-0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe5fc…a83bbacked Pablo Carreno Busta79c22.91$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4.912250%11 W · 11 L-3.1wins-0.14per pick64cpaid-26.8%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xc9a4…3926backed Pablo Carreno Busta76c21.05$16 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5.0559366.8%396 W · 197 L-0.6wins0.00per pick67cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xff95…3c1cbacked Pablo Carreno Busta73c21$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5.675158.8%30 W · 21 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb21b…c396backed Pablo Carreno Busta72c20$14 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5.65377.4%41 W · 12 L+7.5wins+0.14per pick63cpaid+23.9%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x9a57…913fbacked Pablo Carreno Busta73c19.99$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5.412361.8%76 W · 47 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick63cpaid-4.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfacd…d470backed Pablo Carreno Busta75c16$12 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$421072.4%152 W · 58 L+0.8wins0.00per pick72cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Tennis and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 2 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.