Dota2 · resolved market
Dota 2: PARIVISION vs Team Liquid - Game 1 Winner
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0xd01c216d473bfe281de63d990c8b77d55a28524b458fc7291c9c0bb0ca4c0ba4
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What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- PARIVISIONof PARIVISION, Team Liquid
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $99,674
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $125,606
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $99,674 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 79 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Dota2 | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0xf9b5…09eebacked Team Liquid | 52c | 30,865$16,183 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16,183.09 | 551 | 57%314 W · 237 L | +17.4wins | +0.03per pick | 54cpaid | +3.9%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x4d84…21b1backed PARIVISION | 50c | 9,111$4,564 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4,547.44 | 181 | 43.6%79 W · 102 L | -4.4wins | -0.02per pick | 46cpaid | -14.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x507e…beaebacked PARIVISION | 57c | 6,461$3,676 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$2,785.23 | 2,012 | 44.2%889 W · 1,123 L | +36.6wins | +0.02per pick | 42cpaid | -7.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf6f9…bff5backed PARIVISION | 54c | 5,888$3,161 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$2,726.97 | 209 | 49.3%103 W · 106 L | +8.4wins | +0.04per pick | 45cpaid | -4.6%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x87da…53d1backed PARIVISION | 64c | 5,819$3,727 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$2,091.65 | 965 | 57.4%554 W · 411 L | +49.5wins | +0.05per pick | 52cpaid | +7.1%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xdcfe…44b5backed PARIVISION | 44c | 5,789$2,547 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$3,241.59 | 328 | 54.9%180 W · 148 L | +11.8wins | +0.04per pick | 51cpaid | +2.4%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb555…0c4bbacked PARIVISION | 72c | 4,592$3,306 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,285.74 | 103 | 42.7%44 W · 59 L | -0.9wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -21.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4594…b1acbacked Team Liquid | 11c | 4,500$500 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$500 | 14 | 57.1%8 W · 6 L | +0.5wins | +0.03per pick | 54cpaid | +4.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xfdc0…4b85backed PARIVISION | 54c | 3,096$1,683 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,412.84 | 1,577 | 43.9%692 W · 885 L | -10.4wins | -0.01per pick | 45cpaid | -8.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbc67…5286backed PARIVISION | 52c | 3,038$1,583 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,455.8 | 666 | 62.2%414 W · 252 L | +60.2wins | +0.09per pick | 53cpaid | +10.8%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x7462…3ac3backed PARIVISION | 47c | 2,119$1,000 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,119.24 | 340 | 51.5%175 W · 165 L | +11.2wins | +0.03per pick | 48cpaid | +8.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe375…dadfbacked Team Liquid | 54c | 1,849$1,000 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,000 | 129 | 48.1%62 W · 67 L | -9.3wins | -0.07per pick | 55cpaid | -13.2%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x51db…f9b3backed PARIVISION | 58c | 1,847$1,075 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$772.26 | 2,828 | 43.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L | -39.5wins | -0.01per pick | 45cpaid | -20.9%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbdb6…546cbacked Team Liquid | 56c | 1,590$896 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$896 | 6 | 33.3%2 W · 4 L | -1.4wins | -0.23per pick | 57cpaid | -55.2%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x66fb…9f72backed Team Liquid | 56c | 1,437$800 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$800 | 545 | 56.5%308 W · 237 L | +10.4wins | +0.02per pick | 55cpaid | +1.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc75a…1ab2backed Team Liquid | 3c | 1,250$35 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$35 | 400 | 14.8%59 W · 341 L | +11.2wins | +0.03per pick | 12cpaid | -1.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x52b7…0aa1backed PARIVISION | 43c | 1,250$535 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$714.98 | 810 | 29.4%238 W · 572 L | -23.5wins | -0.03per pick | 32cpaid | -10.5%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb0e3…dd00backed PARIVISION | 45c | 1,120$504 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$615.96 | 30 | 40%12 W · 18 L | -0.5wins | -0.02per pick | 42cpaid | -7.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8a38…fee0backed PARIVISION | 47c | 1,083$510 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$573.06 | 603 | 49.9%301 W · 302 L | -3.1wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -4.4%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0x1f99…c209backed Team Liquid | 59c | 845.36$500 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$500 | 128 | 51.6%66 W · 62 L | -9.8wins | -0.08per pick | 59cpaid | -15.2%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xccf5…42f2backed Team Liquid | 55c | 681.85$375 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$374.72 | 574 | 55.4%318 W · 256 L | +6.5wins | +0.01per pick | 54cpaid | +1.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xcb5b…f243backed Team Liquid | 44c | 608.02$267 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$267.21 | 1,272 | 45%572 W · 700 L | -40.5wins | -0.03per pick | 48cpaid | -17.7%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x0b99…8bddbacked Team Liquid | 17c | 584.57$99 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$99.3 | 774 | 58.5%453 W · 321 L | +75.1wins | +0.10per pick | 49cpaid | +12.4%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0xd49d…f05cbacked PARIVISION | 46c | 500$230 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$270 | 21 | 61.9%13 W · 8 L | +3.3wins | +0.16per pick | 46cpaid | +45.4%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x1f4f…46c2backed PARIVISION | 52c | 489.87$255 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$235.26 | 360 | 54.4%196 W · 164 L | +12.1wins | +0.03per pick | 51cpaid | +5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x1f04…5fc4backed PARIVISION | 44c | 481.8$210 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$271.36 | 315 | 45.4%143 W · 172 L | -19.2wins | -0.06per pick | 51cpaid | -13.9%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x3a95…343bbacked PARIVISION | 45c | 439$197 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$241.84 | 698 | 35.2%246 W · 452 L | +15.7wins | +0.02per pick | 33cpaid | +4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x73a2…3b68backed PARIVISION | 54c | 402$216 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$185.58 | 256 | 48%123 W · 133 L | -3.7wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -12.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4946…89d0backed Team Liquid | 24c | 399.99$96 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$96 | 49 | 67.3%33 W · 16 L | +4.7wins | +0.10per pick | 58cpaid | +9.4%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xdbdd…a5debacked PARIVISION | 58c | 396.45$230 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$166.47 | 1,901 | 47.6%905 W · 996 L | +4.6wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | -6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x0c67…d062backed Team Liquid | 53c | 378.29$200 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$200 | 1,137 | 42.3%481 W · 656 L | -27.5wins | -0.02per pick | 45cpaid | -9.6%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x3abf…b143backed Team Liquid | 25c | 361.17$90 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$89.9 | 336 | 45.5%153 W · 183 L | +4.2wins | +0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -1.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x74ef…1ac6backed PARIVISION | 60c | 354.36$214 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$140.26 | 476 | 60.7%289 W · 187 L | -0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 61cpaid | -1.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xa474…32cbbacked PARIVISION | 44c | 340.91$150 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$190.91 | 538 | 44.4%239 W · 299 L | -4.3wins | -0.01per pick | 45cpaid | -2.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xeea6…135fbacked Team Liquid | 25c | 281.75$70 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$70 | 61 | 42.6%26 W · 35 L | +0.6wins | +0.01per pick | 42cpaid | -9.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xee85…98e2backed PARIVISION | 76c | 260.84$198 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$62.67 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +0.8wins | +0.19per pick | 56cpaid | +37.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb569…6fe0backed PARIVISION | 44c | 256.82$113 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$143.82 | 275 | 48%132 W · 143 L | -1.1wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -2.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x1ae1…c891backed PARIVISION | 44c | 234.09$103 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$131.09 | 335 | 49.9%167 W · 168 L | +6.3wins | +0.02per pick | 48cpaid | +2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0be4…06c2backed PARIVISION | 55c | 229.01$126 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$102.91 | 7 | 42.9%3 W · 4 L | 0.0wins | 0.00per pick | 43cpaid | -29%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x1b9e…eb82backed PARIVISION | 45c | 217.11$98 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$119.34 | 203 | 49.8%101 W · 102 L | -6.7wins | -0.03per pick | 53cpaid | -10.4%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xed10…15edbacked PARIVISION | 45c | 200$90 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$110 | 881 | 66.7%588 W · 293 L | +76.3wins | +0.09per pick | 58cpaid | +12.5%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x8031…67e0backed Team Liquid | 48c | 199.99$96 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$96 | 737 | 43.6%321 W · 416 L | -10.8wins | -0.01per pick | 45cpaid | -5.7%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x58f1…7032backed Team Liquid | 55c | 199.98$110 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$109.99 | 295 | 50.2%148 W · 147 L | +8.4wins | +0.03per pick | 47cpaid | +6.6%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe82d…d96bbacked Team Liquid | 35c | 196.27$69 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$69.16 | 9 | 66.7%6 W · 3 L | +1.5wins | +0.16per pick | 50cpaid | +35.7%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xf459…7a53backed PARIVISION | 55c | 181.82$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$81.82 | 102 | 60.8%62 W · 40 L | +5.7wins | +0.06per pick | 55cpaid | +9.3%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x17ca…87d1backed Team Liquid | 56c | 177.85$100 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$100 | 195 | 52.8%103 W · 92 L | -15.2wins | -0.08per pick | 61cpaid | -15%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xefff…2d98backed PARIVISION | 45c | 168.38$76 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$92.61 | 164 | 45.7%75 W · 89 L | -3.6wins | -0.02per pick | 48cpaid | -6.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2760…ef06backed Team Liquid | 18c | 158$28 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$28.44 | 107 | 59.8%64 W · 43 L | -4.8wins | -0.04per pick | 64cpaid | -14.2%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x7181…1b0abacked PARIVISION | 67c | 148.21$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$48.21 | 149 | 65.8%98 W · 51 L | +8.8wins | +0.06per pick | 60cpaid | +12.1%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xb38c…b2c9backed PARIVISION | 43c | 118$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$67.78 | 118 | 41.5%49 W · 69 L | -4.9wins | -0.04per pick | 46cpaid | -13.7%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x9eab…211bbacked Team Liquid | 58c | 114.5$66 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$66 | 8 | 25%2 W · 6 L | -3.1wins | -0.39per pick | 64cpaid | -67.2%equal weight | 40-0.09 edge/pick |
| 0xce1f…7392backed Team Liquid | 34c | 100$34 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$34 | 678 | 53.5%363 W · 315 L | +9.3wins | +0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -2.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x40ba…7ea5backed PARIVISION | 65c | 100$65 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$35 | 537 | 57.7%310 W · 227 L | +11.8wins | +0.02per pick | 56cpaid | +2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2aa7…003fbacked PARIVISION | 45c | 100$45 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$55 | 450 | 52.4%236 W · 214 L | +13.8wins | +0.03per pick | 49cpaid | +0.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb759…ed73backed Team Liquid | 58c | 99.99$58 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$58 | 100 | 49%49 W · 51 L | -5.1wins | -0.05per pick | 54cpaid | -5.6%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xac93…0cfcbacked Team Liquid | 56c | 98.21$55 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$55 | 581 | 52.5%305 W · 276 L | -10.5wins | -0.02per pick | 54cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x18f3…0c20backed Team Liquid | 58c | 85$49 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$49.3 | 64 | 45.3%29 W · 35 L | -2.2wins | -0.03per pick | 49cpaid | -1.3%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x4605…5299backed PARIVISION | 61c | 82.62$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$32.62 | 88 | 33%29 W · 59 L | -4.8wins | -0.05per pick | 38cpaid | -25.3%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xbfd7…f0bfbacked PARIVISION | 55c | 78.88$43 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$35.54 | 2,378 | 47.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L | +15.8wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -7.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x07b0…4758backed Team Liquid | 57c | 76.56$44 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$43.8 | 39 | 56.4%22 W · 17 L | -0.1wins | 0.00per pick | 57cpaid | -2.8%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x22f5…795bbacked PARIVISION | 54c | 74.69$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$34.69 | 61 | 60.7%37 W · 24 L | +4.2wins | +0.07per pick | 54cpaid | +12.3%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x6dea…e294backed Team Liquid | 58c | 74.14$43 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$43 | 75 | 46.7%35 W · 40 L | -0.8wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | +1.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9868…907ebacked Team Liquid | 15c | 73.93$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.81 | 26 | 34.6%9 W · 17 L | +2.5wins | +0.10per pick | 25cpaid | +3.8%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xa4bd…e8a2backed PARIVISION | 68c | 70.99$48 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$22.73 | 340 | 63.2%215 W · 125 L | +38.9wins | +0.11per pick | 52cpaid | +13%equal weight | 62+0.11 edge/pick |
| 0xa07d…a037backed Team Liquid | 21c | 63.58$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.28 | 1,034 | 16.3%169 W · 865 L | -158.1wins | -0.15per pick | 32cpaid | -51%equal weight | 33-0.15 edge/pick |
| 0x672d…dbd7backed PARIVISION | 45c | 55.56$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$30.56 | 400 | 47.5%190 W · 210 L | +6.3wins | +0.02per pick | 46cpaid | -5.6%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa4d2…b34bbacked Team Liquid | 53c | 48$26 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25.57 | 5 | 60%3 W · 2 L | +0.5wins | +0.10per pick | 50cpaid | +20.9%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xbda6…6ae0backed PARIVISION | 49c | 46$23 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$23.46 | 360 | 51.9%187 W · 173 L | +6.3wins | +0.02per pick | 50cpaid | -2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc49b…70c0backed PARIVISION | 48c | 41.67$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.67 | 630 | 32.5%205 W · 425 L | +1.4wins | 0.00per pick | 32cpaid | -22.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x75b1…9b98backed PARIVISION | 48c | 39$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20.44 | 5 | 40%2 W · 3 L | -0.5wins | -0.10per pick | 50cpaid | -20.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0d27…bd5abacked Team Liquid | 51c | 38.86$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 468 | 72.2%338 W · 130 L | +36.5wins | +0.08per pick | 64cpaid | +11.5%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xf883…b8b4backed PARIVISION | 54c | 37.04$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$17.04 | 187 | 64.7%121 W · 66 L | +17.3wins | +0.09per pick | 55cpaid | +15%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x0633…355abacked Team Liquid | 36c | 30.5$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.98 | 116 | 43.1%50 W · 66 L | -5.8wins | -0.05per pick | 48cpaid | -16.2%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb59b…916bbacked Team Liquid | 42c | 30$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.5 | 73 | 60.3%44 W · 29 L | +4.7wins | +0.06per pick | 54cpaid | +6.8%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x4255…6dd5backed Team Liquid | 59c | 25$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.78 | 3 | 33.3%1 W · 2 L | -0.6wins | -0.21per pick | 54cpaid | -41.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xbd83…c0c2backed PARIVISION | 41c | 25$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$14.78 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +1.0wins | +0.24per pick | 51cpaid | +45.3%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xd06f…72ddbacked PARIVISION | 45c | 24.86$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.55 | 2 | 100%2 W · 0 L | +0.9wins | +0.47per pick | 53cpaid | +91.7%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x8d69…1dc4backed Team Liquid | 47c | 22$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.34 | 19 | 63.2%12 W · 7 L | +0.5wins | +0.03per pick | 60cpaid | +0.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x48f7…3aebbacked PARIVISION | 52c | 20$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.6 | 668 | 48.5%324 W · 344 L | -11.5wins | -0.02per pick | 50cpaid | -7.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 2 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Dota 2: PARIVISION vs Team Liquid - Game 1 Winnerthis page
- Dota 2: PARIVISION vs Team Liquid - Game 2 WinnerTeam Liquid won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.