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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Tundra Esports vs PARIVISION - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Tundra Esportsof Tundra Esports, PARIVISION
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$152,491

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $152,491 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 154 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x1776…e557backed Tundra Esports40c25,478$10,292 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,186.192450%12 W · 12 L-1.0wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-9.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked PARIVISION55c8,850$4,866 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,865.592,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked PARIVISION54c6,079$3,282 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,282.0686949%426 W · 443 L-3.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6304…e570backed PARIVISION56c4,843$2,692 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,692.327645.3%125 W · 151 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-10.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x60d0…e05fbacked PARIVISION31c3,690$1,144 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,143.941242.2%174 W · 238 L-0.4wins0.00per pick42cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked PARIVISION55c3,560$1,973 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,973.461,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x913c…39b3backed Tundra Esports65c3,278$2,129 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,149.5871454.5%389 W · 325 L+55.6wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.9%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xdbb3…76a9backed PARIVISION54c2,881$1,567 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,566.6251751.3%265 W · 252 L+21.8wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+1.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xedce…412ebacked PARIVISION6c2,877$164 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$163.754719.1%9 W · 38 L-0.2wins0.00per pick20cpaid-53.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed PARIVISION49c1,858$902 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$902.152,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xf77c…766dbacked Tundra Esports56c1,635$908 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$727.53425%1 W · 3 L-0.8wins-0.21per pick46cpaid-55%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed PARIVISION43c1,545$657 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$657.358744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9bcc…84c1backed PARIVISION33c1,479$488 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$488.224440.9%18 W · 26 L-2.4wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed Tundra Esports52c1,467$758 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$709.2677941.1%320 W · 459 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x59c8…de83backed Tundra Esports45c1,300$585 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7159447.9%45 W · 49 L+4.2wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+9.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2f1f…aa39backed Tundra Esports66c1,249$825 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$423.8345061.6%277 W · 173 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick60cpaid-0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x69bf…0c5dbacked PARIVISION51c1,174$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60036547.7%174 W · 191 L-1.0wins0.00per pick48cpaid-7.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf8a9…3f60backed Tundra Esports39c1,126$439 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$686.442548%12 W · 13 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-11.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xce9d…3c05backed Tundra Esports58c1,089$631 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$458.2414251.4%73 W · 69 L+3.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-4.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x930e…38cfbacked PARIVISION10c1,050$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101.537018.9%70 W · 300 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick18cpaid-24%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3763…345fbacked PARIVISION33c1,000$334 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33442145.4%191 W · 230 L-11.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed PARIVISION41c1,000$410 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41081029.4%238 W · 572 L-23.5wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-10.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x168b…0acfbacked Tundra Esports61c999.99$611 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.8918362.8%115 W · 68 L+5.4wins+0.03per pick60cpaid-2.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed PARIVISION48c951$458 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$457.8632854.9%180 W · 148 L+11.8wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1b9a…a06bbacked PARIVISION13c900$121 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12137811.1%42 W · 336 L+0.8wins0.00per pick11cpaid-21.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Tundra Esports48c830.77$398 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$432.611,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf743…1811backed PARIVISION35c805.08$278 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$278.2231835.8%114 W · 204 L-18.4wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-28.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xacf6…41fcbacked Tundra Esports45c790.95$356 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$435.0260646.9%284 W · 322 L+10.5wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd035…f165backed PARIVISION48c783.95$372 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$372.4210735.5%38 W · 69 L-2.9wins-0.03per pick38cpaid-28.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x24eb…75eebacked PARIVISION42c759.23$316 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$315.635251.9%27 W · 25 L+1.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+8.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed PARIVISION4c750$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.86132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x78a2…d0a5backed PARIVISION68c741.18$502 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5028845.5%40 W · 48 L-6.7wins-0.08per pick53cpaid-10.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x3f3d…cfffbacked PARIVISION60c740$444 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$443.736759.1%217 W · 150 L+5.8wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xae10…d0d9backed Tundra Esports38c730.48$279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$451.4817353.2%92 W · 81 L+8.6wins+0.05per pick48cpaid-4.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x8d85…c436backed Tundra Esports45c680.53$304 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$376.7650832.9%167 W · 341 L-14.8wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-26.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4ccb…bbd7backed PARIVISION32c616.73$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2005837.9%22 W · 36 L-1.7wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-12.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3741…517ebacked PARIVISION62c593$368 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$367.6637047%174 W · 196 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0d03…9a41backed Tundra Esports54c550$298 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$252.523050.9%117 W · 113 L-0.3wins0.00per pick51cpaid-10.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1197…8311backed Tundra Esports54c526.79$287 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$239.7912661.1%77 W · 49 L+4.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+2.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xbb64…bfdcbacked Tundra Esports61c523.48$320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$203.0723653%125 W · 111 L+12.7wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+10.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x249f…fed3backed Tundra Esports59c509.34$301 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$208.8362650.5%316 W · 310 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed Tundra Esports50c500$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25065441.9%274 W · 380 L-1.3wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x80ba…2e78backed PARIVISION40c489.98$196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.9988539.7%351 W · 534 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0c67…d062backed Tundra Esports42c476.19$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$276.191,13742.3%481 W · 656 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x26ac…a735backed PARIVISION44c456.32$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2004841.7%20 W · 28 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0cd9…2a08backed PARIVISION8c452.72$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.2252243.9%229 W · 293 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2416…6e91backed Tundra Esports47c423.48$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$223.4838653.9%208 W · 178 L+10.1wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x36d9…c3cabacked Tundra Esports51c396.96$203 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$193.4844149.4%218 W · 223 L+12.3wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-3.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbaa5…a51abacked PARIVISION52c384.62$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20036654.1%198 W · 168 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7756…d00abacked PARIVISION51c379.44$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$192.8225147.4%119 W · 132 L+12.3wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+6.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xdca4…1c68backed PARIVISION57c350.88$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20064149.9%320 W · 321 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x39a7…bcb7backed PARIVISION54c346.92$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18810949.5%54 W · 55 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x567e…e8fbbacked Tundra Esports48c334.37$159 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$175.3418746.5%87 W · 100 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5799…db25backed PARIVISION64c312.5$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20046049.8%229 W · 231 L+2.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.9%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x1942…2c75backed PARIVISION37c310$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.225339.6%21 W · 32 L-0.2wins0.00per pick40cpaid-10.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdc5a…bf71backed Tundra Esports51c308.93$159 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.4346649.8%232 W · 234 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-12.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe76d…5a75backed Tundra Esports59c300$177 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1231,24844.4%554 W · 694 L+17.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked Tundra Esports38c296$112 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$183.5253844.4%239 W · 299 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed Tundra Esports44c272.73$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$152.7343647.5%207 W · 229 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x77f2…eec6backed Tundra Esports45c270.97$122 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$149.2555457.8%320 W · 234 L+12.3wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb4ff…20dfbacked PARIVISION56c267.86$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15020%0 W · 2 L-1.2wins-0.60per pick60cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbe5a…13f5backed Tundra Esports35c263.43$92 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$171.4345046.7%210 W · 240 L-11.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x974f…cd80backed Tundra Esports36c260$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$166.155147.5%262 W · 289 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4d44…49e6backed PARIVISION48c258.33$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12472154%389 W · 332 L-8.8wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb4f9…32b1backed PARIVISION10c257.78$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.7831245.8%143 W · 169 L+10.2wins+0.03per pick43cpaid-5.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xca1f…ed28backed PARIVISION47c240.29$112 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112.0560552.6%318 W · 287 L+15.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x40fc…498dbacked PARIVISION42c239.28$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001850%9 W · 9 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-13.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf437…ff9bbacked Tundra Esports63c239.03$151 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.4432148.3%155 W · 166 L-6.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1ae1…c891backed PARIVISION52c236.51$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.9933549.9%167 W · 168 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed PARIVISION48c210.75$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101.4466662.2%414 W · 252 L+60.2wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xed10…15edbacked Tundra Esports38c204.42$77 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$126.9688166.7%588 W · 293 L+76.3wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+12.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x491d…f42bbacked Tundra Esports69c200$138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6239660.1%238 W · 158 L+8.5wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Tundra Esports50c193.51$96 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.481,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5d59…bdf3backed Tundra Esports48c181.59$88 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$93.5967555%371 W · 304 L+8.2wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4462…7807backed Tundra Esports39c178.22$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$108.2212650.8%64 W · 62 L+6.5wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+7.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xb69f…d51cbacked Tundra Esports45c159.54$72 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.153964.1%25 W · 14 L+3.7wins+0.10per pick55cpaid+21.7%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x2f4b…69debacked PARIVISION63c158.73$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10037456.4%211 W · 163 L+20.0wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+7.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf586…e81bbacked PARIVISION43c154.53$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.45166.3%1 W · 15 L-5.3wins-0.33per pick39cpaid-85.5%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0xc4c0…23d8backed PARIVISION60c151.42$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$90.4423957.3%137 W · 102 L+8.1wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+1.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x919c…06d8backed PARIVISION32c150$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$481136.4%4 W · 7 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-27.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1a8d…ab7ebacked PARIVISION62c150$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$938844.3%39 W · 49 L-3.1wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-13%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9887…fe5cbacked Tundra Esports35c142.86$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$92.8610453.8%56 W · 48 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8979…9428backed Tundra Esports60c121.67$73 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.678661.6%53 W · 33 L+2.8wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8a38…fee0backed PARIVISION57c119.38$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.6360349.9%301 W · 302 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x540d…c8f9backed Tundra Esports45c118.17$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.8138855.2%214 W · 174 L+29.8wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xf3be…f543backed PARIVISION54c112.06$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.5125457.9%147 W · 107 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+6.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x60e3…57b5backed Tundra Esports45c111.84$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.8434860.1%209 W · 139 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick59cpaid-0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5027…94f7backed Tundra Esports67c110.45$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.5333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.22per pick55cpaid-50.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2760…ef06backed Tundra Esports67c105$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34.6510759.8%64 W · 43 L-4.8wins-0.04per pick64cpaid-14.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5c20…41b3backed PARIVISION15c100$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1517323.1%40 W · 133 L-11.7wins-0.07per pick30cpaid-49.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x00c8…a75fbacked PARIVISION43c100$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$433638.9%14 W · 22 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-8.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x05d3…c06abacked PARIVISION42c100$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4273554.7%402 W · 333 L-3.5wins0.00per pick55cpaid-2%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x8031…67e0backed Tundra Esports36c100$36 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6473743.6%321 W · 416 L-10.8wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1b41…2c02backed Tundra Esports35c100$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6572637.5%272 W · 454 L+3.4wins0.00per pick37cpaid-4%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x2aa7…003fbacked Tundra Esports49c100$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5145052.4%236 W · 214 L+13.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0b05…b133backed Tundra Esports37c99.99$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.9911254.5%61 W · 51 L+4.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+3.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6b23…04a3backed PARIVISION32c96.55$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.7891553.3%488 W · 427 L+48.0wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+5.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x9120…ae70backed Tundra Esports38c94.74$36 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.7421062.4%131 W · 79 L+0.8wins0.00per pick62cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf3ce…a57abacked PARIVISION53c94.34$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501,20259.3%713 W · 489 L+64.6wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+10.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed PARIVISION40c86.84$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.871,03416.3%169 W · 865 L-158.1wins-0.15per pick32cpaid-51%equal weight33-0.15 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.