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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: Rune Eaters vs Bebop (BO3) - Thunderpick World Championship European Series #1 Group D

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Bebopof Rune Eaters, Bebop
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$39,049
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$45,597

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $39,049 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 109 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6b97…8d30backed Rune Eaters53c6,500$3,445 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,444.9766851.8%346 W · 322 L+8.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x219a…154bbacked Bebop47c4,072$1,914 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,157.931100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.53per pick47cpaid+112.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe59c…4da7backed Bebop74c3,465$2,564 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$900.915264.5%98 W · 54 L+6.0wins+0.04per pick61cpaid+9.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xddc3…029cbacked Bebop53c2,644$1,395 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,248.8992456.8%525 W · 399 L+2.0wins0.00per pick57cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Rune Eaters43c1,267$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$549.652,62630.9%812 W · 1,814 L-105.4wins-0.04per pick35cpaid-29.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x369f…abb5backed Bebop47c1,240$583 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$657.23748.6%18 W · 19 L+1.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xadfb…c2efbacked Bebop49c1,055$521 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$533.655843.5%243 W · 315 L-16.8wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-6.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd761…56e3backed Bebop49c1,035$502 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$532.8524746.2%114 W · 133 L+2.7wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1b39…3234backed Rune Eaters30c989.98$298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$297.6331345%141 W · 172 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x56d6…4404backed Bebop53c923$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$432.7964058.1%372 W · 268 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1c98…186dbacked Rune Eaters49c819.38$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$399.935947.9%172 W · 187 L-10.1wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-10.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x35e7…8331backed Rune Eaters52c810$419 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$418.599148.3%479 W · 512 L+9.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Rune Eaters44c713.14$313 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$313.133,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Rune Eaters51c616.18$313 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$313.464,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb835…2e51backed Bebop49c560.32$274 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$286.298544.7%38 W · 47 L+2.3wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+4.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x581f…9d8ebacked Rune Eaters26c547.23$142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$142.2813351.1%68 W · 65 L+6.2wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7462…3ac3backed Rune Eaters26c546.15$142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14225747.5%122 W · 135 L+1.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Rune Eaters52c544.49$283 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$283.492,62451.8%1,359 W · 1,265 L+18.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Bebop49c540$263 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$277.315,83037.8%2,203 W · 3,627 L+79.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcfde…8ad8backed Rune Eaters26c538.46$140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1407546.7%35 W · 40 L-0.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid+2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4e0b…4e72backed Rune Eaters58c515.17$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30020059%118 W · 82 L-0.3wins0.00per pick59cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Rune Eaters43c502.99$214 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$213.961,08854.2%590 W · 498 L+39.3wins+0.04per pick51cpaid-8.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9559…9fd7backed Rune Eaters46c499.99$230 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2305343.4%23 W · 30 L-4.8wins-0.09per pick52cpaid-22.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked Rune Eaters26c487.97$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.421,84841.7%770 W · 1,078 L-69.2wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-21.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5135…7217backed Rune Eaters51c438.04$225 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$225.031,62052.7%853 W · 767 L+57.6wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4ffd…7821backed Bebop65c437.7$285 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153.0678043.7%341 W · 439 L-21.5wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-20.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbb9f…557bbacked Rune Eaters51c435$221 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$221.3720238.6%78 W · 124 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-14.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked Rune Eaters46c422$194 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.123,91036.6%1,431 W · 2,479 L-197.6wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-29.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked Bebop69c415.14$286 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$128.691,77959.1%1,052 W · 727 L+104.8wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x8e34…4480backed Rune Eaters47c410$192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$192.349935.1%175 W · 324 L-5.7wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-7.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed Rune Eaters53c405.46$215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$214.8961154.7%334 W · 277 L+11.1wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2067…7350backed Rune Eaters52c384.62$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20027657.6%159 W · 117 L+11.4wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8248…c0b2backed Bebop72c349.99$252 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9820750.7%105 W · 102 L-9.9wins-0.05per pick56cpaid-13.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7004…a778backed Bebop48c349$167 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.8330155.8%168 W · 133 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+8.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3f05…a9b9backed Bebop48c347.29$167 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$180.1227459.5%163 W · 111 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Rune Eaters26c320.97$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.185,28731.3%1,657 W · 3,630 L-383.3wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-37.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked Rune Eaters53c317.84$169 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$168.625,05055.1%2,781 W · 2,269 L+117.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked Bebop67c298.39$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.672,34942.5%998 W · 1,351 L-72.7wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-20.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed Rune Eaters25c296.23$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.592,77424.5%681 W · 2,093 L-295.8wins-0.11per pick35cpaid-50.7%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xeebb…0b96backed Bebop47c286.17$134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.6735839.4%141 W · 217 L+1.3wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Rune Eaters50c229.97$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$114.997,92550.4%3,997 W · 3,928 L+179.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xda77…683fbacked Rune Eaters45c222.2$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.692,47334.6%855 W · 1,618 L-188.5wins-0.08per pick42cpaid-37.2%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xf0ac…4ec7backed Rune Eaters46c220$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101.234036.5%124 W · 216 L-1.3wins0.00per pick37cpaid-4.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xac9e…cca3backed Bebop47c212.77$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$112.773655.6%20 W · 16 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick55cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe252…5714backed Bebop47c212.74$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$112.7523335.2%82 W · 151 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick32cpaid+15.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x041b…d3ebbacked Rune Eaters54c212.02$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11531451.6%162 W · 152 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-8.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0b26…6091backed Bebop49c205.72$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.723732.4%12 W · 25 L-1.5wins-0.04per pick36cpaid-36%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7179…7d79backed Rune Eaters33c192.51$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.6926048.5%126 W · 134 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2ca6…6a20backed Rune Eaters52c190.38$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9947447.5%225 W · 249 L-12.7wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-3.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc1b5…c8f8backed Bebop47c186.5$89 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9859049.7%293 W · 297 L-31.5wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-13.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x60ec…f7b0backed Rune Eaters29c176.85$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.041,03353.2%550 W · 483 L+64.9wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+5.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x8642…47c8backed Bebop47c170.21$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.214953.1%26 W · 23 L+2.8wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+13.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8165…b93dbacked Bebop47c170.21$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.212147.6%10 W · 11 L+0.9wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+14.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6060…31c4backed Bebop52c167.25$87 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$80.281540%6 W · 9 L0.0wins0.00per pick40cpaid-21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed Bebop63c166.23$104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.834,06450.9%2,067 W · 1,997 L+69.5wins+0.02per pick49cpaid-6.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2b26…57e9backed Bebop45c164.99$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.941,48558%862 W · 623 L+66.5wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+6.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xbc08…6b85backed Bebop47c157.89$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$83.6821752.5%114 W · 103 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Bebop65c157.82$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54.486,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0862…dc29backed Rune Eaters11c152.56$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.7848635.4%172 W · 314 L-18.3wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-18.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1bac…d241backed Bebop47c147.23$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.0340639.4%160 W · 246 L-1.8wins0.00per pick40cpaid-8.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc559…498abacked Bebop47c127.66$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67.663751.4%19 W · 18 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe026…0404backed Rune Eaters53c125.63$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.5844552.4%233 W · 212 L+5.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8d0c…c90abacked Rune Eaters50c123.2$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.546943.5%30 W · 39 L-2.7wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-10.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked Bebop61c109.83$67 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.692,62247.6%1,249 W · 1,373 L-33.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-10.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcf49…fa21backed Bebop75c109.32$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.33475%3 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.05per pick70cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked Rune Eaters27c108.02$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.754,69143.6%2,043 W · 2,648 L-83.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-21.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd154…9c74backed Bebop56c105.51$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.464046.3%296 W · 344 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-14.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked Rune Eaters36c105.3$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.954,93337.4%1,844 W · 3,089 L-249.2wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-32.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd424…bf7bbacked Rune Eaters30c103.33$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$314032.5%13 W · 27 L+1.2wins+0.03per pick29cpaid+13.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8da6…107abacked Bebop49c102.7$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.712948.8%63 W · 66 L-7.1wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-11%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x34fa…f491backed Bebop47c100$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5314454.2%78 W · 66 L+9.7wins+0.07per pick47cpaid+14.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x1522…70febacked Bebop50c100$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5036645.6%167 W · 199 L+7.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-5.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xae8e…08f9backed Rune Eaters54c100$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5437050.5%187 W · 183 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3f7a…0f82backed Bebop47c100$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$532536%9 W · 16 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Bebop56c100$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$443,20245.6%1,459 W · 1,743 L-79.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-16%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xd3e7…bf64backed Bebop46c100$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5457641.1%237 W · 339 L-21.5wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-11.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9bb6…5154backed Bebop54c92.59$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.599856.1%55 W · 43 L+3.7wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4238…3734backed Bebop47c85.11$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.1113445.5%61 W · 73 L+10.4wins+0.08per pick38cpaid+16.2%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xe31d…e7a4backed Bebop47c85.11$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.111850%9 W · 9 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+6.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcee6…0a45backed Rune Eaters52c81.79$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.5350056.6%283 W · 217 L+17.3wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4ee8…7406backed Rune Eaters46c80$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.821741.5%90 W · 127 L-11.8wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-19.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x7d0e…4f01backed Rune Eaters51c75$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.2567750.2%340 W · 337 L+0.5wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Bebop46c73.53$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.7119543.6%85 W · 110 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+4.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6a25…738cbacked Rune Eaters51c68.63$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$353237.5%12 W · 20 L-6.6wins-0.21per pick58cpaid-37.7%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick
0x76f1…f655backed Rune Eaters16c64.26$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.2891743.7%401 W · 516 L-35.6wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-18.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x3d60…6df2backed Bebop47c60$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.812654.8%69 W · 57 L+2.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbb8e…08c1backed Bebop56c60$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.42,36246.6%1,100 W · 1,262 L-53.1wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-14.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xca2d…39edbacked Bebop46c57.5$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.0510545.7%48 W · 57 L-4.9wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-13.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xdc3b…d591backed Rune Eaters46c50$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2318233%60 W · 122 L-22.1wins-0.12per pick45cpaid-26.5%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x0cf6…0e3bbacked Rune Eaters30c50$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$153138.7%12 W · 19 L-3.2wins-0.10per pick49cpaid-30.3%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xedf7…4003backed Rune Eaters26c50$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1380740.3%325 W · 482 L-3.1wins0.00per pick41cpaid-4.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb2d0…bf0cbacked Rune Eaters50c50$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256445.3%29 W · 35 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x79f2…c423backed Bebop47c45$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.854650%23 W · 23 L+4.0wins+0.09per pick41cpaid+12%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed Rune Eaters54c44.85$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.222,43444.6%1,085 W · 1,349 L-64.0wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-13.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0593…9712backed Rune Eaters46c43$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.7828173%205 W · 76 L+21.6wins+0.08per pick65cpaid+11.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x10fc…9f06backed Bebop73c40.28$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.053860.5%23 W · 15 L-1.7wins-0.05per pick65cpaid-9.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0296…ad01backed Bebop75c40$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104163.4%26 W · 15 L-1.4wins-0.03per pick67cpaid-8.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf39a…fe47backed Rune Eaters48c37.76$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.282,06150.7%1,045 W · 1,016 L-18.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4629…9dfebacked Rune Eaters60c33.33$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20560%3 W · 2 L+0.4wins+0.09per pick51cpaid+17.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa9c1…e0ffbacked Bebop76c32.89$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.891275%9 W · 3 L+2.4wins+0.20per pick55cpaid+30.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.