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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: FaZe vs Vitality - Map 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Vitalityof FaZe, Vitality
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$877,080
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$921,262

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $877,080 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 402 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Vitality61c187,052$113,368 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$73,684.291,71446.7%801 W · 913 L+1.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcd30…f316backed FaZe40c115,279$46,471 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46,470.8312249.2%60 W · 62 L+6.9wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+17.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x65c1…2988backed Vitality59c74,346$43,864 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30,482.013046.7%14 W · 16 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8e74…5972backed Vitality60c65,728$39,279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26,448.384238.1%16 W · 26 L-1.7wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-21%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3af1…d739backed FaZe41c43,902$18,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,999.817454.1%40 W · 34 L+3.1wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+5.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1610…ae49backed FaZe39c38,448$15,110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15,110.3313548.9%66 W · 69 L+8.2wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+5.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x258c…7c23backed FaZe39c37,250$14,550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,549.993360.6%20 W · 13 L+4.7wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+42.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x30c7…ac3bbacked Vitality60c35,000$21,150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,85075452.7%397 W · 357 L+27.1wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Vitality58c34,754$20,157 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,596.6525255.6%140 W · 112 L+18.9wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+14.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x5901…63a2backed Vitality59c33,898$20,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,898.317041.4%29 W · 41 L-2.7wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-10.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe4a7…dc87backed FaZe39c33,840$13,341 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,340.791030%3 W · 7 L-2.5wins-0.25per pick55cpaid-48.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xd202…8973backed FaZe42c33,194$13,941 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,941.2717643.2%76 W · 100 L-6.8wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-10.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5038…6236backed FaZe40c27,638$11,032 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,031.5817737.3%66 W · 111 L-16.0wins-0.09per pick46cpaid-20.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x4097…9397backed FaZe39c24,855$9,636 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,635.73551.4%18 W · 17 L+1.4wins+0.04per pick48cpaid-8.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6f3e…bcf8backed Vitality58c22,222$12,889 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,333.236152.5%32 W · 29 L0.0wins0.00per pick53cpaid-8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8f69…7df1backed FaZe38c20,021$7,573 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,572.8275350.5%380 W · 373 L+16.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Vitality56c17,928$9,953 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,974.671,39638.9%543 W · 853 L-41.2wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-29%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf9d6…730abacked FaZe42c16,905$7,156 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,155.679565.3%62 W · 33 L+9.0wins+0.10per pick56cpaid+16.7%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked FaZe41c16,287$6,723 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,723.4164852%337 W · 311 L+10.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9166…b479backed FaZe40c15,000$6,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,00010749.5%53 W · 54 L-5.5wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x07b1…6dfcbacked Vitality59c15,000$8,825 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,1751844.4%8 W · 10 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-13.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa103…1c14backed FaZe39c15,000$5,850 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,849.994650%23 W · 23 L+2.4wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+15.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3d4c…67bcbacked FaZe42c13,431$5,635 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,635250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-25.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x01e6…e7e0backed Vitality61c13,137$8,024 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,112.8217062.9%107 W · 63 L+7.5wins+0.04per pick59cpaid+5.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5e6e…be00backed Vitality59c10,000$5,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,10041649.8%207 W · 209 L+19.5wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xafd4…7e61backed Vitality60c10,000$5,950 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,05011638.8%45 W · 71 L-7.3wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-20.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2bc6…315dbacked FaZe42c10,000$4,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,2001546.7%7 W · 8 L+0.4wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-13.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x96f7…d6aebacked FaZe31c8,946$2,789 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,789.1322129.9%66 W · 155 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick28cpaid-15%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed Vitality59c8,537$5,037 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,500.1635153.8%189 W · 162 L+12.5wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6340…e272backed Vitality60c8,000$4,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,200825%2 W · 6 L-1.7wins-0.21per pick46cpaid-50.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed Vitality63c8,000$5,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,96046149.9%230 W · 231 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec54…e8c1backed FaZe41c7,452$3,081 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,080.8721945.7%100 W · 119 L+8.3wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+8.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4572…83ffbacked Vitality61c7,374$4,498 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,875.7732348.9%158 W · 165 L-11.5wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-6.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked Vitality64c7,343$4,713 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,630.051,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfaf1…795fbacked FaZe40c7,136$2,838 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,838.0929046.9%136 W · 154 L-7.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-8.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x73bc…46cebacked FaZe39c7,030$2,767 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,766.637250%36 W · 36 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4369…2441backed FaZe43c6,684$2,874 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,874.1450%2 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.17per pick67cpaid-34.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4f21…82d6backed FaZe38c6,600$2,508 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,5081020%2 W · 8 L-3.1wins-0.31per pick51cpaid-64.3%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x719b…30e5backed FaZe40c6,536$2,614 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,614.4633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.5wins-0.08per pick41cpaid-28.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked Vitality57c6,000$3,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,6001,76859.2%1,047 W · 721 L+105.5wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+4.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed Vitality57c5,974$3,433 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,540.8787047.9%417 W · 453 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-14%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x880b…c98bbacked FaZe57c5,865$3,343 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,343.1441040%164 W · 246 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick41cpaid+1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x111d…21babacked FaZe38c5,775$2,195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,194.5955.6%5 W · 4 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-16%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x3aa5…cd80backed FaZe40c5,160$2,064 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,064333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.08per pick41cpaid-33.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed Vitality64c5,051$3,243 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,807.9688746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8853…c058backed Vitality59c5,000$2,950 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,050666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.1wins+0.18per pick48cpaid+39.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4ce9…7677backed FaZe41c4,695$1,925 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,924.98540%2 W · 3 L+0.2wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-13.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x91a2…e415backed FaZe41c4,682$1,903 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,902.526934.8%24 W · 45 L-2.9wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-15.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3ebc…063ebacked FaZe42c4,500$1,890 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,890633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.0wins-0.16per pick50cpaid-51.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x847f…459ebacked FaZe38c4,125$1,568 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,567.5728.6%2 W · 5 L-0.5wins-0.07per pick36cpaid-48%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb077…8fe8backed FaZe50c4,046$2,006 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,006.3717249.4%85 W · 87 L-4.2wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Vitality64c3,919$2,490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,429.091,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked FaZe22c3,458$774 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7742,22141.3%917 W · 1,304 L-22.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-19.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked Vitality67c3,013$2,027 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$986.075,02855%2,763 W · 2,265 L+112.5wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8400…274cbacked Vitality71c2,953$2,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$853.215658.9%33 W · 23 L-2.4wins-0.04per pick63cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5ee0…d6a6backed FaZe19c2,896$536 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$535.884553.3%24 W · 21 L-1.6wins-0.04per pick57cpaid-10%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3724…69b5backed FaZe30c2,870$861 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8617943%34 W · 45 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick42cpaid+6.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9e3e…f882backed FaZe29c2,662$779 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$779.2767645%304 W · 372 L-24.2wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-17.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1f2d…2b35backed FaZe39c2,600$1,014 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,01415251.3%78 W · 74 L-3.8wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-6.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked Vitality57c2,523$1,432 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,090.9140253.7%216 W · 186 L+25.1wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+0.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Vitality56c2,510$1,415 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,095.131,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x521f…3344backed FaZe40c2,500$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0006347.6%30 W · 33 L-6.2wins-0.10per pick57cpaid-24.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xedcc…41a1backed FaZe43c2,500$1,075 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,07521953.4%117 W · 102 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd676…104cbacked Vitality63c2,500$1,575 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$924.9911650%58 W · 58 L-4.2wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-11.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc405…4affbacked FaZe41c2,456$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00016355.8%91 W · 72 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick55cpaid-4.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xba03…0486backed FaZe41c2,444$1,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,002.043545.7%16 W · 19 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-11.6%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x8adb…e4f6backed FaZe41c2,439$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00029449.3%145 W · 149 L-10.3wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-8.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd8a5…26a1backed FaZe41c2,350$952 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$951.7815749.7%78 W · 79 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-6.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2687…1363backed Vitality63c2,309$1,449 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$860.3138868.3%265 W · 123 L+25.7wins+0.07per pick62cpaid+3.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x2772…ac19backed FaZe38c2,195$834 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$833.978246.3%38 W · 44 L-0.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid+12.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd619…c461backed Vitality64c2,194$1,414 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$779.8927045.9%124 W · 146 L+10.0wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+11.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed FaZe40c2,170$868 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$86864552.9%341 W · 304 L+27.2wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+9.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x10d7…bbf6backed Vitality72c2,136$1,540 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$595.8619468.6%133 W · 61 L+25.9wins+0.13per pick55cpaid+12.3%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0xba43…c6c0backed Vitality59c2,048$1,208 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$839.593745.9%17 W · 20 L+1.6wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+24.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0c63…3cbbbacked FaZe42c2,011$845 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$844.6846165.5%302 W · 159 L+0.4wins0.00per pick65cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x024c…5fa1backed FaZe35c2,000$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70037145.6%169 W · 202 L+9.3wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd25f…eab3backed FaZe37c2,000$746 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7464250%21 W · 21 L+1.7wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-9.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x994e…6136backed FaZe42c2,000$840 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8403250%16 W · 16 L-1.2wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-19.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x22f6…eb09backed FaZe32c2,000$630 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6307844.9%35 W · 43 L0.0wins0.00per pick45cpaid-11.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3ee1…3e22backed FaZe41c2,000$820 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$819.99922.2%2 W · 7 L-2.0wins-0.22per pick45cpaid-52.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xc51f…5dc6backed FaZe41c1,930$801 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$800.9813454.5%73 W · 61 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-6.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe45a…2399backed FaZe40c1,929$772 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$771.65446.3%25 W · 29 L-3.4wins-0.06per pick53cpaid-8.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb726…4d2bbacked FaZe40c1,875$750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7508741.4%36 W · 51 L-4.9wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-18.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked Vitality79c1,842$1,455 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$386.8844657.2%255 W · 191 L-20.6wins-0.05per pick62cpaid-5.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6dcd…5ef7backed Vitality60c1,797$1,078 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$718.7530153.8%162 W · 139 L-1.3wins0.00per pick54cpaid-4.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed FaZe27c1,787$481 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$481.252,30945.1%1,041 W · 1,268 L-62.6wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked FaZe23c1,715$389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$389.123,41529.3%1,001 W · 2,414 L-275.1wins-0.08per pick37cpaid-43.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x791e…9bdabacked Vitality59c1,670$985 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$684.719346.1%89 W · 104 L+8.0wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+14.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd0e9…67ffbacked Vitality45c1,663$746 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$916.982642.3%11 W · 15 L-2.1wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-16.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5997…0beebacked FaZe43c1,634$703 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$702.621741.2%7 W · 10 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x994d…3d8dbacked FaZe21c1,634$349 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$348.752834.3%181 W · 347 L-6.4wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-13.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x18a4…3a31backed Vitality67c1,605$1,072 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$533.0242154.6%230 W · 191 L+13.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid-2.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1311…d450backed FaZe40c1,600$640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64013646.3%63 W · 73 L-4.9wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-15.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8be4…a700backed FaZe41c1,600$656 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6565253.8%28 W · 24 L-4.1wins-0.08per pick62cpaid-15.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9572…efffbacked FaZe39c1,576$615 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$614.7422241.4%92 W · 130 L-5.3wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5d7e…2ef7backed Vitality65c1,575$1,024 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$551.3116858.9%99 W · 69 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick60cpaid-5.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x503d…04a5backed FaZe37c1,495$555 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$555.0125751.4%132 W · 125 L+0.7wins0.00per pick51cpaid-7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x80ba…2e78backed FaZe38c1,431$549 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$549.4732732.4%106 W · 221 L-0.5wins0.00per pick33cpaid+8.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf897…8453backed FaZe39c1,404$548 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$547.591330.8%4 W · 9 L-2.3wins-0.17per pick48cpaid-49.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x8658…41c6backed FaZe21c1,364$286 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$286.510354.4%56 W · 47 L-4.8wins-0.05per pick59cpaid-12.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 9 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.